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12:15 Dyrcona I suspect that authority_control_fields.pl can be run in parallel on batches of different bib records. I'm not so sure about authority_authority_linker.pl, but I might try it.
12:25 Dyrcona It's running a long time for the authority_control_fields.pl, even with my hack for Lp 2119022. I think if I split it up into smaller batches, say 1,000 records each, and run 4 or so at once, it might finish more quickly.
12:25 pinesol Launchpad bug 2119022 in Evergreen "Unexpected behavior of --start_id and --end_id with authority_control_fields.pl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2119022 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
12:26 Dyrcona I suppose that I should clean up that branch and post it on the bug.
12:47 Dyrcona One person's bug is an other's feature.
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12:52 jeff just remember to include an option to reenable spacebar heating, and you'll be all set.
13:03 Dyrcona HCF ?
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14:13 eeevil Dyrcona: we need to get the browse entry de-serialization branch in for authority_control_fields.pl to be parallelizable
14:14 eeevil https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2091748
14:14 pinesol Launchpad bug 2091748 in Evergreen "Concurrent browse entry update/insert" [Wishlist,New]
14:17 Dyrcona eeevil: Does it just end quietly? I'm getting no error output at all, which makes me think it isn't working. There's usually some messages about bad fields.
14:19 * Dyrcona checks if that will apply to 3.7.4. :)
14:20 eeevil what's "it" here? the authority linker? I don't ever run it personally so I don't know what its output looks like.  but it causes ingests, and especially churn on the browse entry table, and that serializes everything
14:20 Dyrcona authority_control_fields.pl.
14:20 Dyrcona I didn't look super close, but though it could run in parallel, but guess not.
14:21 Dyrcona s/though/thought/
14:21 eeevil I mean, it will run, but if you run 2 copies, A and B, it will end up serializing A-B-A-B-A-B
14:22 eeevil because browse entry is a serialization point due to ingest locking. once that's no longer true (see: branch in that LP) then ALL INGESTS will be parallelizable
14:22 Dyrcona Well, I also have the &> being called from exec in perl, which may or may not be going through the shell.
14:22 eeevil this is why I've been asking for eyes on that for a year :)
14:23 Dyrcona authority_control_fields.pl hits the browse entries? huh.
14:24 eeevil that's the "insert $0s into bibs based on authority headings matches" script, right?
14:24 Dyrcona And...... I don't have working as a remote on the vm..... another, huh.
14:24 Dyrcona yes, that's it.
14:25 Dyrcona It's not been my afternoon....
14:25 eeevil if it changes the bibs, it causes ingests
14:25 Dyrcona OK. That makes sense.
14:25 eeevil if records get ingested, the browse entry table gets touched
14:30 Dyrcona oh man. This is a mess... I probably should not try it on something so old. :)
14:31 eeevil yeah, it was not intended for backporting
14:35 Dyrcona I might have a look at the diffs later. I can usually resolve the conflicts that way.
14:36 Dyrcona I can try it on 3.15.3 in the meantime.
15:00 Bmagic We found an undocumented feature in Evergreen: Server Administration -> User Setting Types -> column called "reg_default". When set, the patron registration will default check/uncheck the setting!
15:00 Bmagic It answers the question I posted in IRC a couple of times: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2025-04-22#i_577033  http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2025-04-17#i_576896
15:03 mmorgan Bmagic: I answered your question back on 4/22, but inadvertently latered the wrong nick :-(
15:04 Bmagic mmorgan++ # OMG there it is
15:04 Bmagic mmorgan: yes, that does the trick. To answer your question
15:04 mmorgan :)
15:06 * mmorgan looks for an LP bug about the missing documentation.
15:13 eeevil that feature def could use some documentation! 6d77e5d64b180f5f78627547418757ecb2d7e4e5 is the commit in main that describes it
15:17 mmorgan eeevil++
15:48 mmorgan bug 2119568
15:48 pinesol Launchpad bug 2119568 in Evergreen "Docs: User Setting Types and Registration Default Option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2119568
16:16 Bmagic mmorgan++
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17:40 gmcharlt 3.16 release schedule posted: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap
17:40 gmcharlt bottom line: general release on 11 November
17:44 jeff 06 November?
17:45 gmcharlt bah
17:45 gmcharlt 6 November - we just making a release, not ending a world war
18:13 jeffdavis I feel like that would be a valid reason to bump the version number to 4.0.

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