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sandbergja |
berick: thanks for the review on the marctk! Could I trouble you for a crates.io release? |
| 09:08 |
berick |
sandbergja: yes, dangit, i meant to do that |
| 09:14 |
sandbergja |
berick++ |
| 09:15 |
sandbergja |
thank you! |
| 09:28 |
berick |
sandbergja: 0.5.0 published |
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sandbergja |
berick++ |
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berick |
has there been any talk about a way to group notification opt-in user settings by notice type, email vs. text, etc? we're using config.settings_group locally w/ locally defined well-known values for 'name' (e.g. notify.email). |
| 11:54 |
berick |
just wondering if i've missed anything and if there would be value in formalizing that some at the community level |
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berick |
asking re: possible bibliocommons integration for managing notice opt-ins |
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Rogan |
berick - I've thought about it quite a bit, it comes routinely in migrations and we need better granularity for opt in notifications |
| 13:52 |
berick |
Rogan: good to know. the config.settings_group approach has worked well for us. think I should put that into LP as a possible solution? |
| 13:52 |
Rogan |
berick I welcome it. I'll look over it and give feedback once you did but it sounds like a step in the right direction |
| 13:53 |
Rogan |
and it would ease integration with Bibliocommons as you noted as well as other discovery systems |
| 13:53 |
Rogan |
I know multiple bibliocommons libraries that would certainly welcome it |
| 13:54 |
berick |
great, will do |
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shulabramble |
59 minutes to the Developer's Meeting. Possibly 58. Time is elastic and a lie. |
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Rogan |
time is a flat circle. and a lie. |
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shulabramble |
Rogan rust_cohle.gif |
| 14:19 |
Rogan |
he gets it |
| 14:19 |
Rogan |
Rust |
| 14:19 |
Rogan |
the rust community missed out on not picking him as a figurehead |
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shulabramble |
Proposal: The Rust Working Group's mascot is Matthew McConaughey taking a fevered drag off a cigarette. |
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justdoglet |
I want to use whatever programming language with the mascot of Snoop taking a chill bong rip. |
| 14:28 |
justdoglet |
Whatever one has that, rather. Apparently I'm low on caffeine today. |
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shulabramble |
28 minutes to the Dev Meeting. On a geologic scale, it's already happening. |
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shulabramble |
15 minutes to the developer's meeting. |
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shulabramble |
9 minutes to developer's meeting. |
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redavis |
shulabramble++ |
| 14:55 |
shulabramble |
5 minutes. last minute smoke break if you want. |
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shulabramble |
#startmeeting 2025-06-10 - Developer Meeting |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Meeting started Tue Jun 10 15:00:08 2025 US/Eastern. The chair is shulabramble. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to '2025_06_10___developer_meeting' |
| 15:00 |
shulabramble |
#topic Intros |
| 15:00 |
shulabramble |
#info shulabramble = Shula Link, GCHRL |
| 15:00 |
phasefx |
#info phasefx = Jason Etheridge, EOLI |
| 15:00 |
jeff |
#info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) |
| 15:00 |
Rogan |
#info rogan = Rogan Hamby, EOLI |
| 15:00 |
redavis |
#info redavis = Ruth Frasur Davis, ECDI |
| 15:00 |
terranm |
#info terranm = Terran McCanna, PINES |
| 15:00 |
sleary |
#info sleary = Stephanie Leary, EOLI |
| 15:00 |
eeevil |
#info eeevil = Mike Rylander, EOLI |
| 15:01 |
mmorgan2 |
#info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE |
| 15:01 |
briank |
#info briank = Brian Kennedy, BCLC |
| 15:01 |
mdriscoll |
#info mdriscoll = Martha Driscoll, NOBLE |
| 15:01 |
abneiman |
#info abneiman = Andrea Buntz Neiman, EOLI |
| 15:01 |
smayo |
#info smayo = Steven Mayo, PINES |
| 15:02 |
shulabramble |
Let's get rolling, and latecomers can introduce themselves as they arrive |
| 15:02 |
shulabramble |
#topic Action Items from Last Meeting |
| 15:03 |
shulabramble |
#topic Bmagic will look into transferring POeditor account ownership to a generic EG account |
| 15:03 |
Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CW MARS |
| 15:04 |
shulabramble |
since Bmagic doesn't look to be around, does anyone else have any updates on this? |
| 15:05 |
shulabramble |
in that case |
| 15:05 |
abneiman |
I imagine this task may be transferred to the nascent Infrastructure Committee, when that is officially formed |
| 15:05 |
shulabramble |
abneiman++ |
| 15:05 |
shulabramble |
#action Bmagic will look into transferring POeditor account ownership to a generic EG account/moving this task to the nascent Infrastructure Committee |
| 15:06 |
shulabramble |
#topic sleary and sandbergja will report progress on test writing wiki pages next month |
| 15:06 |
sleary |
oof, please carry forward |
| 15:06 |
shulabramble |
#action sleary and sandbergja will report progress on test writing wiki pages next month |
| 15:06 |
shulabramble |
#topic Release Manager needed for next major release |
| 15:07 |
shulabramble |
Though I think that also falls under New Business at the end with the assembly of a team for 4.0/Fall Release |
| 15:07 |
redavis |
yes |
| 15:08 |
shulabramble |
Alrighty then, we'll address all that together at the end. |
| 15:08 |
shulabramble |
#topic Updates |
| 15:08 |
shulabramble |
#topic Release Info |
| 15:08 |
redavis |
k, just a moment |
| 15:08 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ |
| 15:08 |
redavis |
Evergreen 3.14.6 and 3.15.1 were released on May 21. Thanks to Bmagic, abneiman, mdriscoll, and mmorgan for their work on the maintenance release team. |
| 15:09 |
redavis |
There were 24 LP tickets for 3.15.1 with fixes released and 22 LP tickets for 3.14.6 with fixes released. |
| 15:10 |
redavis |
The maintenance releases for this month (June) are due next Wednesday, June 18, and we need volunteers for that. You can sign up on the buildmaster spreadsheet. |
| 15:10 |
redavis |
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vIWbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?gid=0#gid=0 |
| 15:10 |
redavis |
There is one critical fix to be released for both 3.15.2 and 3.14.7 among other less critical stuff. |
| 15:11 |
abneiman |
(also 3.13.11) |
| 15:11 |
redavis |
And that concludes my part of the release info |
| 15:11 |
redavis |
Oh, we're doing that as a security release? |
| 15:11 |
abneiman |
no, there was a 3.13.11 in May |
| 15:11 |
redavis |
Oh, yes. there was. My apologies. |
| 15:12 |
abneiman |
IIRC that was the last planned (non-security) 3.13 |
| 15:12 |
redavis |
abneiman++ # that's correct |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
bmagic++ abneiman++ mdriscoll++ mmorgan++ redavis++ |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
thanks y'all! |
| 15:12 |
redavis |
This month will have only two versions to release. |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
small wall of text incoming |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
#topic Evergreen |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
#info Evergreen 3.14.6 and 3.15.1 were released on May 21. Thanks to Bmagic, abneiman, mdriscoll, and mmorgan for their work on the maintenance release team. |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
#info There were 24 LP tickets for 3.15.1 with fixes released and 22 LP tickets for 3.14.6 with fixes released. |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
#info The maintenance releases for this month (June) are due next Wednesday, June 18, and we need volunteers for that. You can sign up on the buildmaster spreadsheet. |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
#info https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vIWbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?gid=0#gid=0 |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
#info There is one critical fix to be released for both 3.15.2 and 3.14.7 among other less critical stuff. |
| 15:13 |
Dyrcona |
bmagic++ abneiman++ mdriscoll++ mmorgan++ redavis++ |
| 15:13 |
shulabramble |
anything of note for OpenSRF, Hatch, or Docs releases? |
| 15:14 |
jeff |
anyone have the launchpad bug for the "one critical fix" mentioned above? |
| 15:14 |
redavis |
yeah, jeff, just a sec |
| 15:14 |
redavis |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2112185 |
| 15:14 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2112185 in Evergreen main "Pre-Cats can no longer be re-checked out" [Critical,Fix committed] |
| 15:15 |
jeff |
thanks! |
| 15:16 |
redavis |
mp |
| 15:16 |
abneiman |
meep |
| 15:16 |
redavis |
lol, noice |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
meep meep wall of text meep meep |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#topic Launchpad Status (as of noon Eastern) |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#topic Snapshot |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Open Bugs - 3250 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Pullrequests - 89 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Signedoff - 16 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Needswork - 96 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Needstestplan - 3 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Needsrebase - 24 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#topic Updates Since Last Meeting |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Bugs Added - 38 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Pullrequest tag Added - 26 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Signedoff tag Added - 18 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Needswork tag Added - 1 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Needstestplan tag Added - 0 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Needsrebase tag Added - 1 |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
#info Fix Committed - 29 |
| 15:17 |
shulabramble |
#topic New Business |
| 15:17 |
shulabramble |
#topic Fall 2025 / 4.0 Release Team selection |
| 15:18 |
shulabramble |
Anyone want to volunteer for this? |
| 15:19 |
redavis |
I'm unable to volunteer at this point in time. I might be able to next month if no one has to that point. |
| 15:19 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ |
| 15:20 |
eeevil |
I'm considering ... but, basically what rdavis said |
| 15:20 |
redavis |
eeevil++ |
| 15:20 |
shulabramble |
my plate is gonna be full for the next six months due to system restructuring, so i'm out |
| 15:20 |
shulabramble |
eeevil++ |
| 15:21 |
sleary |
outlook hazy, ask again later |
| 15:21 |
terranm |
I'm also unavailable due to big projects and I'm going to be short-staffed |
| 15:21 |
redavis |
I think it will stil be in a timely enough manner to revisit this next month and let the committing keep on committing. |
| 15:21 |
jeff |
Would anyone on the most recent team like to hazard a guess as to the time committment that you all experienced? |
| 15:21 |
abneiman |
if anyone's willing to take on the manager/wrangler role now, the team can be fleshed out next month? |
| 15:22 |
redavis |
abneiman, that was the role that I need to wait a little longer to commit to. |
| 15:23 |
redavis |
jeff, it really depends on what role you're taking. I suspect that for the builder, it might actually be about 15 hours spread over about a month's time including any meetings and build/etc. time. |
| 15:24 |
abneiman |
jeff: in the non-technical wrangler role, I probably did 15-20 hours between Jan and April - mostly weighted towards April |
| 15:24 |
abneiman |
redavis++ |
| 15:24 |
redavis |
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong though. For other things like release notes and translations, about 10 hours over that same period of time... |
| 15:24 |
redavis |
For release manager, yes...as abneiman says...about 20 hours. |
| 15:24 |
sleary |
I tend to spend more time than that, but mostly on shepherding specific bugs (feedback, rebasing, etc.) |
| 15:25 |
sleary |
it very much depends |
| 15:25 |
redavis |
sleary, as builder? or for what role in the release? |
| 15:25 |
sleary |
redavis I do not recall what role I had last time |
| 15:25 |
sleary |
I was not The Builder |
| 15:25 |
redavis |
There's WAY more time spent from committers and testers...and Terran wrangling BSW and FF...and yeah. |
| 15:26 |
mdriscoll |
Testing tarballs took me about 10 hours from Jan - April |
| 15:26 |
abneiman |
yeah, and relteam members who are also core committers are probably going to spend more time on reviews / commits than on team activities |
| 15:26 |
redavis |
mdriscoll++ |
| 15:27 |
shulabramble |
mdriscoll++ |
| 15:28 |
sleary |
as website updater, the time commitment is more like an hour or two the week of release |
| 15:29 |
shulabramble |
so is the consensus that we're gonna revisit this next month barring a sudden volunteer to head up the team? |
| 15:29 |
redavis |
Those times are all pretty bare minimum estimates and don't account for what sleary is describing - which is often untracked and substantial. |
| 15:29 |
redavis |
shulabramble, I think so. |
| 15:29 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ |
| 15:30 |
shulabramble |
#action Fall 2025 / 4.0 Release Team selection |
| 15:30 |
redavis |
Also, just a note that those time estimates are for a feature release. They're a little shorter for maintenance releases (so please volunteer for this month). |
| 15:30 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ |
| 15:30 |
redavis |
(a LOT shorter? how do I sell this quickly?) |
| 15:31 |
mdriscoll |
I'll test tarballs again. |
| 15:32 |
redavis |
mdriscoll++ |
| 15:32 |
shulabramble |
People who volunteer for maintenance releases receive the blessings of Githulhu for at least a week. |
| 15:32 |
redavis |
Oh, up until the next maintenance release cycle. |
| 15:33 |
shulabramble |
What those blessings entail are unknown, but you'll have them. |
| 15:33 |
phasefx |
you can count me in for testing too, and emergency commit bit |
| 15:33 |
shulabramble |
mdriscoll++ phasefx++ |
| 15:33 |
redavis |
only Githulhu knows. |
| 15:33 |
* phasefx |
needs to remember that he volunteered... |
| 15:33 |
redavis |
phasefx++ |
| 15:34 |
abneiman |
I have short weeks this week and next so I might not be able to do point release notes ... but ... I'll toss in myself as a maybe |
| 15:34 |
redavis |
I've added you to the spreadsheet, phasefx, which will remind me to email you later this week. |
| 15:34 |
shulabramble |
abneiman++ |
| 15:35 |
phasefx |
redavis++ |
| 15:35 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ |
| 15:35 |
redavis |
abneiman++ |
| 15:35 |
abneiman |
anyone else may feel entirely free to boot me and take over release notes |
| 15:35 |
shulabramble |
Githulhu is pleased by this. |
| 15:36 |
shulabramble |
any other maintenance volunteers? |
| 15:36 |
redavis |
We still need a builder and translations person. I will be sending out an email solicitation tomorrow to the dev list. |
| 15:36 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ |
| 15:37 |
shulabramble |
#topic Announcements |
| 15:38 |
shulabramble |
#topic Next Meeting 8 July 2025 |
| 15:38 |
terranm |
#topic Next Bug Squashing Week will be July 7-11, 2025 |
| 15:38 |
shulabramble |
terranm++ |
| 15:38 |
redavis |
terranm++ |
| 15:38 |
abneiman |
terranm++ |
| 15:39 |
shulabramble |
any other announcements? |
| 15:40 |
sleary |
terranm++ |
| 15:40 |
shulabramble |
In that case, by the power granted me by Great Githulhu |
| 15:40 |
shulabramble |
#endmeeting |
| 15:40 |
pinesol |
Meeting ended Tue Jun 10 15:40:24 2025 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:40 |
pinesol |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2025/evergreen.2025-06-10-15.00.html |
| 15:40 |
pinesol |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2025/evergreen.2025-06-10-15.00.txt |
| 15:40 |
pinesol |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2025/evergreen.2025-06-10-15.00.log.html |
| 15:40 |
terranm |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:41 |
redavis |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:42 |
abneiman |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:43 |
abneiman |
.... or is it chthulshula :) |
| 15:43 |
eeevil |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:44 |
mmorgan |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:44 |
jeff |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:45 |
mmorgan |
redavis++ |
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