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07:30 Rogan jeffdavis - not decided yet but it is a common request so I'm sure the conference team is looking at it
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10:33 sandbergja @band add Dragon Drop
10:33 pinesol sandbergja: Band 'Dragon Drop' added to list
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10:40 csharp_ @band search drag
10:40 pinesol csharp_: Dragon Drop ; Dragon Drop
10:40 csharp_ I wondered - I think that was added before :-)
10:41 berick indeed it's been there since the dawn of time
10:41 csharp_ :-)
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11:14 pinesol News from commits: LP2037689 Follow-up: handle query errors gracefully <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=7dfe7c​d53939a0c3faed5ca4255099bd0389a7b0>
11:14 pinesol News from commits: LP2037689 Retrieve Bib by ID/TCN form accessibility <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c15ce​361e7fd6fd877df405444a22b41dd7f04f>
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12:13 Bmagic csharp_++
12:14 pinesol News from commits: LP2095128 Stamp upgrade script <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c34d6​6d7185d9b7d583a3c262b01c08dcb5a8ce>
12:14 pinesol News from commits: LP#2095128 Add inventory option to in-house use <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a7d84​b3bd563c8212533f987547186862dd08ed>
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14:16 shulabramble 44 minutes to dev meeting, which is enough time to do somethin' I reckon
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14:17 redavis shulabramble++
14:17 shulabramble moving this to Thursday has me all flummoxed.
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14:20 sleary I have not really known what day it is all week. Conference scramble.
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14:34 shulabramble i got married last Friday and that was the end of me knowing what was going on.
14:35 shulabramble 25 minutes to dev meeting.
14:35 redavis Congratulations!!!!
14:36 redavis Also, I can believe that time has been obliterated for you. I'm holding on by a very, very thin thread. Two more meetings, and then I'm napping...HARD.
14:37 shulabramble I'm gonna go home today and flop. i had to go to a scholarship interview with the Spawn yesterday which they only realized was in person 45 minutes before the meeting.
14:37 redavis lol, typical spawn behavior
14:39 redavis my partner was talking about his spawn telling him the morning of the SAT that he needed a ride to the test. It was the first his designated adult had heard about it.
14:39 shulabramble lol, yeah, they turned off all higher thought processes between the end of their freshman year and going to Korea to teach ESL and do cultural exchange.
14:40 redavis lol, but also...going to Korea to teach ESL is cool.
14:40 shulabramble my first alert was hearing a scream of obscenities from their bedroom and "do you know where this road is?"
14:40 redavis I used to, back in the day, follow "Eat Your Kimchi". It was really cool in its prime
14:40 redavis lol, shulabramble, that's pretty funny.
14:41 shulabramble oh, they're really excited and have promised souvenirs for everyone.
14:42 redavis I also had a student/friend_of_spawn who went to Korea after college to do...something? I think she's in Britain now? It was a relatively big deal for a kid from rural Indiana to just wander internationally. But, not a surprise knowing the person.
14:44 shulabramble to my great shame, I only discovered I like kimchi last year. spawn has changed their majors to international affairs and linguistics, so I predict wandering the globe is in the cards.
14:44 redavis The youth...they delight me. lol
14:44 shulabramble i'm so encouraged by the youth, tbh.
14:45 shulabramble 15 minutes. smoke 'em if you got 'em.
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14:50 shulabramble 10 minutes. Wu Tang is for the children.
14:54 redavis Wu_Tang++
14:55 shulabramble 5 minutes to dev meeting. that's enough time to listen to "Protect Ya Neck"
14:57 sleary congratulations, shulabramble!
14:59 shulabramble thank you, sleary!
15:00 shulabramble #startmeeting 2025-05-15 - Developer Meeting
15:00 pinesol Meeting started Thu May 15 15:00:21 2025 US/Eastern.  The chair is shulabramble. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:00 pinesol Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
15:00 pinesol The meeting name has been set to '2025_05_15___developer_meeting'
15:00 shulabramble #topic Intros
15:00 shulabramble #info shulabramble = Shula Link, GCHRL
15:01 shulabramble Let's set it off.
15:01 redavis #info redavis = Ruth Frasur Davis, ECDI
15:01 mdriscoll #info mdriscoll = Martha Driscoll, NOBLE
15:01 mmorgan1 #info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE
15:01 berick #info berick Bill Erickson, KCLS
15:01 sleary #info sleary = Stephanie Leary, Equinox
15:02 eeevil #info eeevil = Mike Rylander, EOLI
15:02 collum #info collum = Garry Collum, KCPL
15:02 jeff #info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL)
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15:03 csharp_ #info csharp = Chris Sharp, GPLS
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15:04 shulabramble latecomers can keep up the intros as we get going
15:04 abneiman #info abneiman = Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox
15:04 smayo #info smayo = Steven Mayo, PINES
15:04 Dyrcona #info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CW MARS
15:04 terranm #info terranm = Terran McCanna, PINES
15:05 shulabramble #topic Action Items from Last Meeting
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15:05 shulabramble #topic bmagic will look into transferring POeditor account ownership to a generic EG account
15:07 shulabramble this might be a really short meeting since everyone's doing conference stuff. since bmagic didn't do an intro, we'll kick this to next month unless anyone has any news
15:07 shulabramble #action Bmagic will look into transferring POeditor account ownership to a generic EG account
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15:08 shulabramble #topic sleary and sandbergja will report progress on test writing wiki pages next month
15:08 sleary I will regroup with sandbergja in the next few days and probably toss this out for wider participation!
15:08 shulabramble sleary++
15:09 shulabramble #action sleary and sandbergja will report progress on test writing wiki pages next month
15:09 shulabramble #topic Updates
15:09 shulabramble There's nothing on the agenda, so the floor is open.
15:09 redavis I have an update for releases.
15:09 shulabramble redavis++
15:10 redavis Three point releases are due out next week on Wednesday, May 21. They are 3.13.11, 3.14.6, and 3.15.1. There aren't a ton of commits to any of them, but there are several that are high priority so this is an important maintenance release cycle. Volunteers are needed for the release team. Please fill out the buildmaster spreadsheet if you're able and willing.
15:10 redavis https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vI​WbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?gid=0#gid=0
15:10 shulabramble #topic Releases
15:10 shulabramble #info Volunteers needed for the release team
15:11 shulabramble #info Please fill out the buildmaster spreadsheet if you're willing and able -- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vI​WbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?gid=0#gid=0
15:11 redavis Also, I can't remember when the last anything happened, so, Evergreen 3.15.0, was released on time and underbudget last month. As were point releases, 3.14.5, and 3.13.10.
15:11 shulabramble redavis++
15:11 redavis There will be one more point release for 3.13 (next month), and then it will be security only.
15:12 redavis Shoutout to abneiman for RMing the 3.15 release cycle. And ALL of the many, many contributors.
15:12 shulabramble #info 3.15.0, 3.14.5, and 3.13.10 released on time and under budget
15:12 redavis And shoutout to the many people who were on all the release teams.
15:12 shulabramble abneiman++
15:12 shulabramble release_teams++
15:13 redavis There were also MANY sessions about many of the new features during the conference and slides and recordings will be available soon.
15:13 shulabramble conference++
15:13 abneiman question: do we have an RM for 4.0 yet?
15:13 redavis Not yet
15:13 abneiman 'cause we need one
15:13 redavis Indeed
15:13 abneiman 123 not it
15:14 redavis And, are we confident that 4.0 is next? and not 3.16?
15:14 abneiman I, personally, am not confident about that at this time
15:14 abneiman though we, collectively, seemed confident at hackaway
15:15 redavis abneiman++
15:15 abneiman ultimately I think that's an RM / Release Team call
15:15 shulabramble abneiman++
15:15 shulabramble #info Release Manager needed for next major release
15:15 abneiman but, someone needs to step up else it's not gonna happen. Any volunteers? Voluntells?
15:16 redavis Let's leave the RM for one more month. I have some things to sort between now and the next dev meeting and could possibly do it.
15:16 redavis But can't say today.
15:16 abneiman redavis++
15:16 redavis And would LOVE someone else to have the opportunity.
15:17 dluch #info dluch = Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS
15:17 shulabramble redavis++
15:17 shulabramble #action Release Manager needed for next major release
15:17 shulabramble now it's on the agenda for next month.
15:18 redavis Also, thanks to those who have volunteered for the May point releases. We need a builder or builders still. And someone with lupin access. Could be the same person, but not necessarily necessary.
15:19 Dyrcona I'll see what I can do. I am out sick today and I think my schedule is pretty busy next week. I should know tomorrow if I can help
15:19 shulabramble Dyrcona++
15:19 redavis So, there's also news about the 2025 Hackaway. It's going to be hosted by MOBIUS in Columbia, Missouri. Dates are TBD
15:19 redavis Dyrcona++
15:19 shulabramble Mobius++
15:19 shulabramble #info 2025 Hackaway is hosted by MOBIUS in Columbia, Missouri
15:20 dluch :-)
15:20 jeff mobius++ hackaway++ hack-a-way++
15:20 redavis And the 2026 International Conference has also been scheduled and will be in Renton, Washington and hosted by KCLS. Dates are April 8-11, 2026 https://evergreen-ils.org/2026-ev​ergreen-international-conference/
15:21 Dyrcona kcls++ mobius++
15:21 shulabramble #info 2026 International Conference in Renton Washington, hosted by KCLS, April 8-11, 2026 https://evergreen-ils.org/2026-ev​ergreen-international-conference/
15:21 jeff kcls++ conf++
15:21 redavis (though I'm loathe to say "conference" again for 2.5 days)
15:21 abneiman kcls++ mobius++
15:22 redavis And that's all I have
15:22 shulabramble redavis++
15:22 mmorgan redavis++
15:22 Dyrcona redavis++
15:22 redavis Except, I recently found out that pickleball is essentially wiffleball tennis (with a slightly different "wiffle" ball), and I'm a little shook.
15:22 terranm kcls++ mobius++
15:22 shulabramble alright, anything else? speak now before the Wall of Text.
15:23 shulabramble redavis I'm so tempted to put that in the official minutes.
15:23 redavis lol
15:23 berick @band add Pickle Wiffle
15:23 pinesol berick: Band 'Pickle Wiffle' added to list
15:23 berick (sorry)
15:23 abneiman haaaaaaaaaa
15:23 redavis oh my, LOL
15:24 redavis I can't with that
15:24 shulabramble do NOT look up Pickle Wiffle in the Urban Dictionary.
15:24 redavis please no
15:24 berick uh oh is that a thing? dang
15:24 shulabramble okay, wall of text to erase pickle wiffle incoming
15:24 shulabramble https://evergreen-ils.org/2026-ev​ergreen-international-conference/
15:24 shulabramble ....
15:24 shulabramble #topic Launchpad Status (as of noon Eastern)
15:24 shulabramble #topic Snapshot
15:24 shulabramble #info Open Bugs - 3247
15:24 shulabramble #info Pullrequests - 93
15:24 shulabramble #info Signedoff - 30
15:24 shulabramble #info Needswork - 99
15:24 shulabramble #info Needstestplan - 3
15:24 shulabramble #info Needsrebase - 24
15:24 shulabramble #topic Updates Since Last Meeting
15:24 shulabramble #info Bugs Added - 52
15:24 shulabramble #info Pullrequest tag Added - 39
15:24 shulabramble #info Signedoff tag Added - 4
15:24 shulabramble #info Needswork tag Added - 3
15:24 shulabramble #info Needstestplan tag Added - 0
15:24 shulabramble #info Needsrebase tag Added - 1
15:24 shulabramble #info Fix Committed - 12
15:25 shulabramble #topic New Business
15:25 shulabramble Anything new to discuss?
15:25 redavis berick, not sure. but not googling
15:25 sleary I updated the branches on the Angular 18 upgrade this morning; see bug 2043490
15:25 pinesol Launchpad bug 2043490 in Evergreen "Angular 18 Upgrade" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2043490
15:25 redavis sleary++
15:25 shulabramble sleary++
15:25 sleary would appreciate eyes on that and opinions on whether we should go to 19
15:26 sleary see also the other things we will need to update in order to take advantage of speed improvements, as outlined in Jane's comments
15:26 eeevil I have an eyeball request for https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2091748
15:26 pinesol Launchpad bug 2091748 in Evergreen "Concurrent browse entry update/insert" [Wishlist,New]
15:27 shulabramble #info sleary updated the Angular 18 upgrade branches this morning (LP2043490); eyes appreciated and input on if we should move to Angular 19
15:27 redavis eeevil++
15:27 shulabramble #info eeevil requests eyeballs on LP2091748
15:27 eeevil thanks, Gina, for attempting to test, also. (I'm blanking on your IRC nick, sorry!)
15:28 redavis mantis++
15:28 shulabramble mantis++
15:28 shulabramble eeevil++
15:28 jeff sleary++ berick++ sandbergja++ gmcharlt++ (angular upgrade bug)
15:28 eeevil mantis++
15:28 shulabramble gmcharlt++ berick++ sandbergja++
15:29 shulabramble #info Next meeting is 10 June 2025
15:29 shulabramble anything else?
15:29 abneiman we all have conference mush-brain today
15:29 shulabramble if not, i'm just waiting to have as close to a perfect 30 minute meeting as possible.
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15:30 shulabramble mush-brain++
15:30 shulabramble #endmeeting
15:30 pinesol Meeting ended Thu May 15 15:30:19 2025 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
15:30 pinesol Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2025/evergreen.2025-05-15-15.00.html
15:30 pinesol Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2025/evergreen.2025-05-15-15.00.txt
15:30 pinesol Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2025/evergreen.2025-05-15-15.00.log.html
15:30 redavis shulabramble++
15:30 abneiman shulabramble++
15:30 sleary shulabramble++
15:30 eeevil within 2s, shulabramble++
15:31 Dyrcona shulabramble++
15:33 shulabramble eeevil whoa!
15:33 berick shulabramble++
15:33 mmorgan shulabramble++
15:33 mmorgan And congratulations!!
15:34 shulabramble mmorgan thank you!
15:34 redavis berick++ # "I laughed, I cried, it moved me" - VeggieTales (90s era)
15:35 sleary the UI group will meet in about 10 minutes in the track 3 room
15:37 redavis Meeting with someone from ALA to talk about IMLS/LSTA funding impact in a few. Also the Electronic Frontier Foundation is doing a fundraiser selling liquid core EFF dice sets. Guess what some of my kids are getting for Christmas?
15:41 sleary redavis++
15:41 sleary ... I am wrong; UI is track 1! thanks eeevil
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