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pinesol |
News from commits: LP2089192 Patron Search - Clear Form button is hard to see <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=94c0c354a5afb971edb977abf0364a45846d36bb> |
| 10:18 |
pinesol |
News from commits: LP#2087979: (follow-up) fix lint <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=e10d95c3d3dd075a28b3ceec26338cdefb324634> |
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csharp_ |
berick: following up - looks like our OOM kill is happening around the new record buckets UI |
| 10:37 |
csharp_ |
I don't think it's specific to Redis |
| 10:37 |
berick |
csharp_: gotcha. what's getting killed, a drone? |
| 10:37 |
csharp_ |
OpenSRF is killed |
| 10:38 |
berick |
heh |
| 10:38 |
berick |
@who killed OpenSRF |
| 10:38 |
pinesol |
jeff killed OpenSRF. |
| 10:38 |
mantis |
we recently upgraded from 3.11.7 to 3.13.6. I know that there is a wishlist item that was fulfilled in 3.13 that allows a dialog to pop up when a notification method is checked off but nothing is filled out in the field. https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2002572 |
| 10:38 |
mantis |
We're seeing that if a notification method is checked off within the patron edit or registration page, then that field becomes required. Not sure if it's related to this wishlist item or if this is another feature/library setting. |
| 10:38 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2002572 in Evergreen "Wishlist: Ask to Confirm Holds Placement When No Notifications Are Selected" [Wishlist,Fix released] |
| 10:38 |
mantis |
we're getting a few comments about it even though it makes a lot of sense to me |
| 10:38 |
csharp_ |
berick: next-brick02-head kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 3643106 (opensrf-c) total-vm:2712340kB, anon-rss:2616116kB, file-rss:1180kB, shmem-rss:0kB, UID:2000 |
| 10:38 |
csharp_ |
high pcrud calls |
| 10:40 |
csharp_ |
if there are any shmmax/sysctl type settings to make anything happier, that might help |
| 10:40 |
berick |
csharp_: k. assuming grepping the pid would show it's a drone |
| 10:41 |
Bmagic |
csharp_: did you go to 24.04? Just curious |
| 10:41 |
csharp_ |
Bmagic: 22.04 |
| 10:41 |
Bmagic |
ty |
| 10:41 |
berick |
Bmagic: 24.04 issues? |
| 10:43 |
Bmagic |
no, I've not made that jump yet either. All of our stuff was on top of 22.04 |
| 10:44 |
berick |
i'm starting the 24.04 upgrade train here soon |
| 10:45 |
Bmagic |
We've reverted to ejabberd while we put the redis issues back into debug mode unfortunatly. And I've not had time to go back and work on the redis debug project. It's high on my list though |
| 10:46 |
berick |
Bmagic: is it still limited to utility/batch/backend processes? |
| 10:46 |
Bmagic |
It was* until we got a ticket about exporting MARC, and I dove into that and found that redis struck again |
| 10:47 |
berick |
ah, right, the exporting |
| 10:47 |
Bmagic |
Another one was Load PO recors from MARC, with an especially beefy Order, like 900 records |
| 10:48 |
Bmagic |
It was those two tickets that put me over the edge, and changed all production back to ejabberd for the time being |
| 10:49 |
Bmagic |
csharp_: but my issue is likely compounded by docker. Though, it's interesting (and a bit of a relief) that it's not only containers that make the problem OOM/resource issue bubble up |
| 10:49 |
berick |
was about to ask.. in any event, offer stands to log in to test systems and poke around |
| 10:50 |
Bmagic |
berick++ # I will likely take you up on that as soon as I can get something that breaks reliably. Oh and that's another thing: my test machine worked fine with the same MARC export test. It was only a problem on the production machine. Likely due to hardware differences |
| 10:52 |
Bmagic |
ejabberd being slower might be a feature, not a bug, lol |
| 10:52 |
berick |
it's not unheard of |
| 10:52 |
Bmagic |
redis makes the hardware burn bright like a star until it burns out |
| 10:52 |
berick |
secret trick: set log level to 5/trace :) |
| 10:53 |
berick |
but then you'll create a singularity of log file mass |
| 10:54 |
Bmagic |
You'll summon Ray Kurzweil |
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sleary |
csharp_ do you have the patch for bug 2093899? |
| 12:02 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2093899 in Evergreen "Add to bucket dropdown on search results leads to excessive calls" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2093899 |
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csharp_ |
sleary: yep - thank you! |
| 13:43 |
mmorgan |
mantis: It sounds like the behavior you're describing in the patron edit screen is bug 1901726 |
| 13:43 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1901726 in Evergreen "Required Fields Based on Hold Notification Preferences Too Strict" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901726 |
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shulabramble |
58 minutes to developer meeting. gather your strength. light the beacons. |
| 14:03 |
eby |
jeff: ncip still works so far |
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shulabramble |
I don't believe in round numbers. 32 minutes to developer meeting. |
| 14:29 |
Dyrcona |
32 minutes is a round number. |
| 14:29 |
mmorgan |
...but who's counting |
| 14:29 |
Dyrcona |
Except it was 31 when you said it. :) |
| 14:29 |
shulabramble |
I'm not. I never learned how to count. |
| 14:30 |
mmorgan |
:) |
| 14:31 |
jonadab |
All numbers are potentially round, depending on what base you're using. |
| 14:32 |
Dyrcona |
base 0? |
| 14:33 |
Dyrcona |
"All your base are belong to us." |
| 14:33 |
jonadab |
Base 0 makes my brain hurt. I was thinking of base e or some jazz, but. |
| 14:33 |
Dyrcona |
Base 12: dec el do. |
| 14:39 |
shulabramble |
base 20, like some ancient French group |
| 14:40 |
jonadab |
If you're gonna go higher than 16, might as well go to base 60. |
| 14:43 |
shulabramble |
might as well. as previously stated, I don't know how to count. 11 minutes to dev meeting (hexadecimal) |
| 14:43 |
mantis |
mmorgan++ |
| 14:44 |
Dyrcona |
'There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.' |
| 14:45 |
Dyrcona |
"There are two kinds of people in the world. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data...." |
| 14:45 |
mmorgan |
:) |
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shulabramble |
Five minutes to dev meeting. |
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berick |
t-minus about 60 (base 64) seconds |
| 14:56 |
jonadab |
Is that "Five" as in "5" in base 10, or "Five" in base64? |
| 14:57 |
shulabramble |
5 base 10 but now 3 base 10 or 11 base 2 |
| 14:57 |
csharp_ |
based |
| 14:57 |
sleary |
Five is right out. |
| 14:58 |
Dyrcona |
sleary++ |
| 14:58 |
sleary |
The number of the counting shall be three! |
| 14:58 |
shulabramble |
Thou shalt not count to two unless thou are proceeding to three. |
| 14:59 |
* mmorgan |
runs to grab coconuts |
| 15:00 |
shulabramble |
#startmeeting 2025-02-11 - Developer Meeting |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Meeting started Tue Feb 11 15:00:07 2025 US/Eastern. The chair is shulabramble. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to '2025_02_11___developer_meeting' |
| 15:00 |
shulabramble |
#topic Introductions |
| 15:00 |
Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CW MARS |
| 15:00 |
shulabramble |
#info shulabramble = Shula Link, GCHRL |
| 15:00 |
sleary |
sleary = Stephanie Leary, Equinox OLI |
| 15:00 |
redavis |
#info redavis = Ruth Frasur, ECDI |
| 15:00 |
berick |
#info berick Bill Erickson, KCLS |
| 15:00 |
phasefx |
#info phasefx = Jason Etheridge, EOLI |
| 15:00 |
collum |
#info collum = Garry Collum, KCPL |
| 15:00 |
sleary |
#info sleary = Stephanie Leary, Equinox OLI |
| 15:01 |
mdriscoll |
#info mdriscoll = Martha Driscoll, NOBLE |
| 15:01 |
mmorgan |
#info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE |
| 15:01 |
abneiman |
#info abneiman = Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox OLI |
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jeffdavis |
#info jeffdavis = Jeff Davis, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka) |
| 15:02 |
csharp_ |
csharp = Chris Sharp, GPLS |
| 15:02 |
tslittle |
#info tslittle = Tiffany Little, PINES |
| 15:02 |
csharp_ |
#info csharp = Chris Sharp, GPLS |
| 15:02 |
smayo |
#info smayo = Steven Mayo, GPLS |
| 15:03 |
shulabramble |
People can continue their introductions as we get rolling |
| 15:03 |
shulabramble |
#topic Action Items From January |
| 15:03 |
shulabramble |
#topic eeevil will open a bug for cross-column stats targets |
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shulabramble |
i'm taking it eeevil is not around to discuss this? |
| 15:05 |
terranm |
#info terranm = Terran McCanna, PINES |
| 15:06 |
shulabramble |
Kicking it down the road like I'm Jake Elliott |
| 15:06 |
shulabramble |
#action eeevil will open a bug for cross-column stats targets |
| 15:06 |
shulabramble |
#topic abneiman will reach out to gmcharlt concerning bug 2051946 and POEditor git integration |
| 15:06 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2051946 in Evergreen "institute a Git commit message template" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc) |
| 15:06 |
abneiman |
I have done half of that |
| 15:07 |
shulabramble |
what's the word? |
| 15:07 |
abneiman |
gmcharlt has promised to reach out about POeditor git stuff prior to the next point release cycle next week |
| 15:07 |
shulabramble |
abneiman++ gmcharlt++ |
| 15:07 |
abneiman |
the other item is still pending |
| 15:08 |
shulabramble |
#action awaiting word from gmcharlt concerning bug 2051946 |
| 15:08 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2051946 in Evergreen "institute a Git commit message template" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946 - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc) |
| 15:08 |
shulabramble |
#action gmchartl will reach out about POeditor git stuff prior to the next point release cycle |
| 15:09 |
shulabramble |
#action sleary and sandbergja will report progress on test writing wiki pages next month |
| 15:09 |
sleary |
some small progress has been made! more to come. |
| 15:09 |
shulabramble |
sleary++ sandbergja++ |
| 15:10 |
shulabramble |
#topic sleary will make a new LP tag denoting bugs that involve string changes |
| 15:10 |
sleary |
it hath been created. https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bugs?field.tag=i18n-new-strings |
| 15:10 |
shulabramble |
sleary++ again! |
| 15:11 |
sleary |
I am tagging things on the 3.15 roadmap that I know involve string changes |
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| 15:11 |
sleary |
please pitch in, if your code got committed and you know it will need translator attention |
| 15:12 |
shulabramble |
#info it hath been created. https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bugs?field.tag=i18n-new-strings |
| 15:12 |
abneiman |
sleary++ |
| 15:13 |
shulabramble |
#info if your code has been committed and you need it needs translator attention please attach the new tag |
| 15:13 |
shulabramble |
i cannot type today. or count. |
| 15:13 |
shulabramble |
#topic abneiman will poll concerning moving the developer's meeting from IRC to a different platform |
| 15:14 |
abneiman |
mmmm yes I suppose you & I should talk about that shulabramble ... someday |
| 15:14 |
terranm |
I'll add the new tag to the official tags list |
| 15:14 |
abneiman |
why does time keep happening |
| 15:14 |
shulabramble |
terranm++ |
| 15:14 |
redavis |
lol, abneiman |
| 15:14 |
shulabramble |
look, with everything else going on... |
| 15:14 |
csharp_ |
abneiman: because inertia |
| 15:14 |
sleary |
terranm I just did |
| 15:14 |
redavis |
csharp_: add "why does time keep happening?" to quotes |
| 15:15 |
redavis |
please |
| 15:15 |
terranm |
nvm sleary has that page locked |
| 15:15 |
csharp_ |
@quote add < abneiman> why does time keep happening |
| 15:15 |
pinesol |
csharp_: The operation succeeded. Quote #250 added. |
| 15:15 |
redavis |
csharp_++ |
| 15:15 |
abneiman |
csharp_++ |
| 15:15 |
shulabramble |
csharp_++ |
| 15:15 |
sleary |
terranm it took me a minute to remember where that page was :) |
| 15:16 |
terranm |
sleary++ |
| 15:16 |
shulabramble |
sleary++ |
| 15:17 |
shulabramble |
#action abneiman will discuss moving the developer's meeting with shulabramble and poll the community |
| 15:17 |
shulabramble |
#topic Updates |
| 15:17 |
shulabramble |
#topic Release Info |
| 15:17 |
redavis |
Please sign up - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vIWbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?usp=sharing |
| 15:18 |
redavis |
point releases are due out next week. |
| 15:18 |
shulabramble |
#topic Evergreen |
| 15:18 |
shulabramble |
#info Please sign up - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aKffVGU_vIWbtFR_vpoHsqodSw-Kdd5yn65RpfkMKKA/edit?usp=sharing |
| 15:18 |
redavis |
We specifically need help with translations and |
| 15:18 |
redavis |
And that's about it, actually for the point releases |
| 15:19 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ |
| 15:19 |
redavis |
It'll be 3.14.4 and 3.13.9 |
| 15:19 |
redavis |
Oh, we need a builder for 3.13.9 (and the parts that go along with that) |
| 15:19 |
abneiman |
redavis++ |
| 15:20 |
redavis |
And tester (apologies - my attention is fragmented) |
| 15:20 |
shulabramble |
#topic Documentation |
| 15:20 |
shulabramble |
#info Documentation Interest Group met on Thursday, Feb. 6 |
| 15:21 |
shulabramble |
#info Had a recap from BSW |
| 15:21 |
redavis |
Also, it is likely that this will be the last maintenance release wrangling I can do - so it would be good for someone else to think about it for March. |
| 15:21 |
shulabramble |
#info Went over previous months' actions and updates |
| 15:21 |
shulabramble |
#info Live demo of using Github for docs submissions |
| 15:21 |
shulabramble |
redavis++ |
| 15:21 |
shulabramble |
#info Next meeting: Thursday, March 6 |
| 15:21 |
shulabramble |
Anything else documentation related from anyone? |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
Silence is complicity in my speedrun of the agenda :) |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
Which means it's time to have an incoming wall o' text |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#topic Launchpad Status (as of noon Eastern) |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#topic Snapshot |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Open Bugs - 3221 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Pullrequests - 73 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Signedoff - 17 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Needswork - 86 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Needstestplan - 2 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Needsrebase - 25 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#topic Updates Since Last Meeting |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Bugs Added - 69 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Pullrequest tag Added - 48 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Signedoff tag Added - 61 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Needswork tag Added - 9 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Needstestplan tag Added - 0 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Needsrebase tag Added - 1 |
| 15:23 |
shulabramble |
#info Fix Committed - 55 |
| 15:24 |
shulabramble |
#topic New Business |
| 15:24 |
shulabramble |
Anything new we need to discuss? |
| 15:25 |
shulabramble |
I feel like everyone is operating in stunned silence these days, to be honest. |
| 15:25 |
shulabramble |
#topic Announcements |
| 15:25 |
shulabramble |
#info Next Meeting is 11 March 2025 |
| 15:26 |
shulabramble |
Anyone have anything more to announce right now? Good news? a moment of joy? |
| 15:26 |
mmorgan |
This goes back to releases |
| 15:26 |
redavis |
mmorgan++ |
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* phasefx |
looks for Rod Serling |
| 15:27 |
shulabramble |
mmorgan++ |
| 15:27 |
mmorgan |
abneiman organized a meeting of folks experienced with building for the 3.15 team. |
| 15:27 |
terranm |
My moment of joy was how much got accomplished during BSW |
| 15:27 |
sleary |
Galen's document on new tables and columns is a thing of joy, and I'm going to make a similar one for grid UIs |
| 15:27 |
shulabramble |
terran++ sleary++ |
| 15:28 |
shulabramble |
terranm++ |
| 15:28 |
mmorgan |
It was helpful in may ways, but it should be noted that more folks now have access to do translations for releases. |
| 15:28 |
abneiman |
moment of joy: Monday code review merged two roadmap items for 3.15 https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap:3.15 |
| 15:28 |
redavis |
mmorgan++ |
| 15:28 |
terranm |
monday-code-review++ |
| 15:28 |
shulabramble |
gmcharlt++ abneiman++ monday-code-review++ |
| 15:28 |
shulabramble |
bug-squashers++ |
| 15:28 |
mmorgan |
code-review = moments-of-joy |
| 15:29 |
shulabramble |
mmorgan that is very, very true |
| 15:29 |
redavis |
And, if I may, we need someone to volunteer for translations for the point releases and/or 3.15. |
| 15:29 |
sleary |
the committers met on Monday morning to welcome tslittle and review committing workflows (for those of us also relatively new to the process) |
| 15:29 |
shulabramble |
#info volunteers needed for translations for point releases and/or 3.15 |
| 15:30 |
mmorgan |
committers-meeting++ |
| 15:30 |
shulabramble |
tslittle++ |
| 15:30 |
mmorgan |
tslittle++ |
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shulabramble |
and 37 (octal) minutes after we began |
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shulabramble |
#endmeeting |
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pinesol |
Meeting ended Tue Feb 11 15:32:13 2025 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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pinesol |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2025/evergreen.2025-02-11-15.00.html |
| 15:32 |
pinesol |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2025/evergreen.2025-02-11-15.00.txt |
| 15:32 |
pinesol |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2025/evergreen.2025-02-11-15.00.log.html |
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shulabramble |
... and it's now 38 octal minutes. i can't count. I have been defeated. |
| 15:32 |
abneiman |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:32 |
mmorgan |
shulabramble++ |
| 15:32 |
mmorgan |
Time always wins. |
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mmorgan |
...and gravity, too. |
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Dyrcona |
shulabramble++ |
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terranm |
shulabramble++ |
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redavis |
shulabramble++ |
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jonadab |
Gravity can be overcome using any of the other forces. It does have a really long reach, though. |
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berick |
the "you can run but you can't hide" law |
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