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09:36 Bmagic by the way: the 3.14.0 tarbal re-test resulted in the same perl installation issue for Email::Send. In other words: it's not us, it's them.
09:36 Bmagic also:
09:36 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:37 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Colombia Tolima Reynel Perez Micro-Lot, and sends it sliding down the bar to mantis1
09:37 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:37 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Sumatra Lake Tawar, and sends it sliding down the bar to jeff
09:37 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:37 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Sidamo Guji, and sends it sliding down the bar to mmorgan
09:37 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:37 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Bonsai Blend Espresso, and sends it sliding down the bar to sleary
09:37 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:37 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Mocha Java Espresso, and sends it sliding down the bar to berick
09:37 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:37 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Nicaragua SHG, and sends it sliding down the bar to Bmagic
09:37 Bmagic @coffee [someone]
09:37 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Kenya Mamuto Kirinyaga, and sends it sliding down the bar to akilsdonk_
09:37 Bmagic lol, I didn't know it would choose the author
09:37 mmorgan Bmagic: Thanks!
09:38 Bmagic you bet
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09:58 sleary it is by caffeine alone that I set my mind in motion
09:59 Bmagic digital coffee might be stronger than Earthly coffee. I feel like AI
10:05 berick add a little chocolate -- Mocha Java Espresso -- and i'll be unstoppable
10:06 Bmagic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izx8r-bUcQ0
10:07 berick hah
10:07 berick kinda surprised it aired
10:08 Bmagic What do we have for him Johnny?!  It's..... A NEW CAR!!!
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13:05 * Dyrcona looks for a way to find Government Documents. I'm thinking coded value map, since it is in 006/11 and/or 008/28.
13:06 Dyrcona Suspects it might already be in the database.
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13:09 Dyrcona "Gig-E ports down! But now they're up again and the router's in disarray."
13:11 Dyrcona I used to know how to set up a new search field, but I haven't done it in so long that I've forgotten.
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13:17 jeffdavis I remember having to shelve paper government documents during my first library job. What a nightmare keeping those magazine file boxes sorted in call number order.
13:17 jeffdavis Thank goodness everything is digital now - I bet gov docs are super easy to organize these days, right?
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13:21 Dyrcona jeffdavis: I got my MLS at a university that was a depository library for both the US and UN. The UN stuff was pretty cool. I worked in the (then) re-imagined "Research and Information Services" which was basically reference combined with gov't docs, so I did work in a library for about a year!
13:22 Dyrcona I'm getting close to finding what I want in the database. config.marc_21_ff_pos_map hase the GPub fixed_field. I just need to find the tables to link that to bib records and I should be good to go.
13:24 Dyrcona I typoed the table name, it's config.marc21_ff_pos_map. I added an extra underscore.
13:27 Dyrcona So, my database shows no fkey relationships with that table. I wonder if that is normal. Also, config.record_attr_definion lists GPub as a filter. I wonder if that is good enough for finding them in the database?
13:28 Dyrcona s/definion/definition/ I'd be dangerous if I could finally learn to type. :)
13:33 Dyrcona I found some entries in metabib.uncontrolled_record_attr_value. There's some junk in some of these records.
13:35 Dyrcona Something about those values and record_attr_vector_list, right?
13:42 Dyrcona Ok, that works for 1 value.
13:45 Dyrcona Hm.. I think I had some code from years ago to check multiple values in record_attr_vector_list...
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13:48 Dyrcona Looks like I had some code to join with config.coded_value_map.i = any(record_attr_vector_list) as part of a larger query for some items.
13:49 Dyrcona suppose I can do something like that with the uncontrolled entries.
13:59 Dyrcona 289,185 rows...
14:02 Dyrcona That sounds like a lot to me, so I'm going to add a distinct.
14:02 Dyrcona 288,950. Maybe that's reasonable? I don't know if this library is a full depository or not.
14:05 Dyrcona OK. So how about I limit it to valid values according to LoC? I see stuff in uncontrolled_record_attr_value for gpub that should not be there. I'll skip those.
14:08 Dyrcona 284,175 results.
14:09 Dyrcona Does the infamous feature add gpub to confi.coded_value_map?
14:10 Dyrcona Nope.
14:11 Dyrcona Oh, wait. It does.
14:11 Dyrcona I was looking in the wrong database.
14:12 Dyrcona So, what happens in that db if I use config.coded_value_map for gpub?
14:15 Dyrcona 1,634,938 results. That seems like too many.
14:16 Dyrcona I mean I can believe that there are that many government publications. I just find it hard to believe that Worcester has that many.
14:18 Dyrcona My original query with uncontrolled_record_attr_value returns 0 rows in the upgraded database.
14:18 Dyrcona I guess that should be expected.
14:19 Dyrcona OK. how about we skip ccvm.value = ' '....
14:20 Dyrcona err.. code not value.
14:20 Dyrcona Which begs the question why is a non-value being indexed?
14:21 Dyrcona Well, I guess it doesn't really beg the question in the rhetorical senses.
14:21 Dyrcona 284,175 results. I guess that is the correct answer.
14:22 Dyrcona @monolog
14:22 pinesol Dyrcona: CHOWN ARE OPENSRF COLON OPENSRF OPEN EYE ELL ESS
14:22 Dyrcona @monologue
14:22 pinesol Dyrcona: Your current monologue is at least 32 lines long.
14:22 Dyrcona pinesol: I think you forgot the SUE DEW before that command.
14:22 pinesol Dyrcona: NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
14:23 Dyrcona pinesol: Why are you shouting?
14:23 pinesol Dyrcona: SYSTEM CONTROL RESTART OPEN SURF
14:23 Dyrcona pinesol: Knock it off.
14:23 pinesol Dyrcona: Message root @ server God....Universe going down for reboot....
14:24 Dyrcona Wow! pinesol is so literal.
14:25 Bmagic I'm loving this conversation
14:25 Bmagic "conversation"
14:27 Bmagic what the heck is a Jigawatt?
14:33 Dyrcona @dunno add MTN DEW REE BOOT NAWH
14:33 pinesol Dyrcona: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
14:33 Dyrcona Meh. I don't feel like identifying myself at the moment.
14:34 Dyrcona Anyway, I think I can find government documents.
14:36 Dyrcona I think I'll make a bug about config.coded_value_map containing entries for codes that do not identify the type.
14:37 Dyrcona or, should I just glom it on to the existing bug that is assigned to me?
14:37 Dyrcona I'll decide tomorrow.
14:46 berick @decide now or later
14:46 pinesol berick: go with later
14:57 Dyrcona fire alarm. catch ya'll later.
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15:04 Dyrcona False alarm, I guess.
15:16 Dyrcona Another alarm.
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15:52 Dyrcona If the alarm goes off again. I'm going home.
16:05 Dyrcona Oh, yeah. The Commonwealth of Mass. library (also a CWMARS member) also must have a bunch of government documents.
16:05 Dyrcona It's not just Worcester, though they are the ones asking about excluding records from being cleaned up.
16:08 Dyrcona According to the property management, the fire alarms "have been caused by the parking lot pipe repairs, which inadvertently are triggering the alarms."
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16:19 kmlussier Good afternoon #evergreen!
16:19 kmlussier @dessert [someone]
16:19 * pinesol grabs some Chocolate Pudding for gmcharlt
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