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09:23 pinesol News from commits: LP#2084828: restore open-ils.actor.user.penalty.remove API <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3acd4​9f39a619b7fd387052f77ed1ff54060e18>
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09:28 Dyrcona Well, the laptop just shut off. It was at 0% batter and plugged in. I hope it was just drained because (maybe) I just put it to sleep on Friday and didn't shut it down.
09:28 * Dyrcona fortunately has other laptops to use.
09:43 Dyrcona "0% batter"... Sounds about right for a Monday.....
09:53 pinesol News from commits: LP2083873: Remove obsolete PostgreSQL versions 10 through 12 <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=34b935​79fc77773a34b54a8c9f0cfdea1f59731c>
09:53 pinesol News from commits: LP2083873: Support older PG versions <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=82a738​ddb7d994835aa85d2ecf1d9145a4a50a80>
09:56 Dyrcona Those two commits seem like an oxymoron.
09:57 Dyrcona That's also about all I had left planned for 3.14.0. There are a couple of things that might be nice to get in today, but not sure when/if we want a moratorium before release building tomorrow. We
09:57 Dyrcona have point releases and 3.14.0 in the works.
09:59 Dyrcona I'll look at Lp 1699611.
09:59 pinesol Launchpad bug 1699611 in Evergreen "Remove opt-in setting from opensrf.xml" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1699611 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
09:59 Dyrcona That seems like a .0 thing to do.
10:00 Dyrcona Only 1 vm on this laptop...
10:03 JBoyer If folktales about VCRs and peanut butter sandwiches have taught me anything, it's that 0% batter is probably the near the upper limit of batter that should be allowed near / on a laptop.
10:04 mmorgan :)
10:05 Dyrcona Heh.
10:09 Dyrcona Peanut butter sandwiched don't do them much good, either.
10:09 Dyrcona heh. "sandwiched"...
10:09 Dyrcona I'll blame the Bluetooth keyboard. The keys are not quite full size.
10:32 Dyrcona What a time for timeout errors on Lp. :)
10:36 Bmagic is there a URL pattern for evergreen to produce json or xml based on a querystring for a specific marc tag like the 035a?
10:43 Bmagic I'm looking at the magic spells wiki, and there is something close (maybe) URL Format for "browse indexes"
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10:47 berick Bmagic: if i follow what you're asking, should be able to map an API call to a gateway URL
10:50 Bmagic berick: this is an example but doesn't work: /osrf-gateway-v1?service=open-ils.sear​ch.biblio.marc&method=marc_search&tag=​035&subfield=z&term=(OCoLC)1393077569
10:51 berick Bmagic: https://demo.evergreencatalog.com/osrf-gate​way-v1?service=open-ils.search&amp;method=o​pen-ils.search.biblio.marc.staff&amp;param={%22org_unit%22:1,%22limit%22:10,%22of​fset%22:0,%22searches%22:[{%22term%22:​%22ocolc%22,%22restrict%22:[{%22subfie​ld%22:%22a%22,%22tag%22:%22035%22}]}]}
10:51 berick well, remove ".staff" as needed
10:52 Bmagic ty! I'll work with that and see if I can get it to go my way
11:05 Dyrcona Bmagic: Are you looking for MARC-style data for a record?
11:05 Bmagic xml is fine
11:06 Bmagic this api returns json with the bib ID's then a separate call is required to get the details of the bib
11:08 Bmagic a wrinkle in my conundrum is that the bibs I'm trying to turn up are electronic bibs (no items) - it seems that the public(non staff) API call won't turn those up no matter which scope I use.
11:09 Bmagic to prove it, I perform a title search in the OPAC, scoped to the Electronic $9 scope, and it works, but when doing the exact same scoped search using MARC expert search (OPAC) - no results
11:09 Dyrcona Bmagic: The OPAC results might depend on settings.
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11:10 Dyrcona If you have a record id, you can use unAPI to get the record data in XML.
11:10 Bmagic there is a setting for marc tag search in the OPAC?
11:10 Dyrcona Well, for whether or not and how records without items, most electronic records, show up in the OPAC.
11:10 Bmagic What I'm finding is that Evergreen won't give me results for electronic scoped bibs when searching marc tags in the OPAC
11:11 Dyrcona There might be a bug. I don't use MARC tag search.
11:11 Dyrcona There are settings to control if scoped records show up or not depending on the scope.
11:11 Dyrcona It might be those settings.
11:12 * Dyrcona is doing like 3 things at once right now, so if I missed that you've scoped the search, then I apologize. :0
11:12 Bmagic It's all good Dyrcona: I appreciate the idea generation!
11:13 Bmagic I think it's a bug if we can consider marc search for scoped electronic bibs a bug
11:18 Bmagic I'll report it
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12:09 Dyrcona I hate trying to make complicated stuff simple in a web text box.
12:10 Dyrcona jeffdavis: I'm getting unexpected results with Lp 1699611. It worked, then I started getting "patron not found" errors instead of the opt-in dialog.
12:10 pinesol Launchpad bug 1699611 in Evergreen "Remove opt-in setting from opensrf.xml" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1699611 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
12:15 jeffdavis Hmm, what opt-in settings and patron accounts are you using?
12:16 jihpringle there are patron is not found and patron is not viewable messages that are expected if you try to retrieve a patron who's home library isn't within your opt in boundary
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12:33 Dyrcona jeffdavis: I think I'm using the settings from your bug comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/1699611/comments/3
12:33 pinesol Launchpad bug 1699611 in Evergreen "Remove opt-in setting from opensrf.xml" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
12:34 Dyrcona I messed them up at first, but the not found messages started after I fixed them.
12:34 Dyrcona I could try it again.
12:49 Dyrcona I have reloaded the database. I'm trying again. (Also, while voting on a bug tracking system for Aspen.)
12:51 Dyrcona live_t/15-lp1533329-opt-in.t ... Failed tests:  5, 13 ... Result: FAIL
12:54 Dyrcona oh, wait a minute.... I should run the tests again.
12:54 Dyrcona I made a change in the database before running them.
13:14 Dyrcona I see that I'm setting the settings wrong. I set the wrong setting for BR4. I should have used a fancy search and replace rather than writing the insert by hand.
13:31 Dyrcona Y'know, putting 'org.' on the beginning of organizational unit setting names is redundant.
13:32 Dyrcona Though I guess that differentiates them from the 'cat.' and 'circ.' settings....
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13:55 adam_reid has anyone ever setup evergreen notifications to use gmail smtp? the only setting I see in "opensxrf.xml" is <smpt_server>. Can't find any mention of how to configured port, password or tls in the docs...
14:01 JBoyer adam_reid, I think the most likely setup for that would be to send things to a regular smtp server (could be on localhost and not accept outside messages) and configure that to send through gmail.
14:01 JBoyer well, send, relay, etv.
14:04 adam_reid okay, I thinks that what we had, another tech on our teams thinks he has a solution for that setup (it had stopped working),
14:04 adam_reid Thanks!
14:37 Dyrcona adam_reid: What JBoyer said. What you're looking for is called a "smart host."
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16:18 eeevil Bmagic: beware: "MARC expert search" is gross and old and ... needs/deserves a whole re-think. it almost certainly does not know anything about located URIs (I think that's your symptom?) because it predates them by years and was basically never touched after it first sprang into being in ~2005. HOWEVER! the stock id|scn field indexes the 035a, so you could search there
16:20 Bmagic eeevil: I didn't realize it was that old! Wowsa. No wonder. Yes, that's my symtom. It seems, though, that I don't need to be logged in in order to use the .staff search api, which allows me to specify the 035a as per the example from berick. That might* save me
16:21 eeevil yeah, .staff just means "don't cache the result, and don't require item restrictions" ... it's a style, not a level of access, IOW
16:22 Bmagic I think that meets the criteria for this then. The library is using a third party tool to cross reference already-loaded electronic bibs against an external subscription listing, using OCLC numbers as the key
16:40 abneiman doing the release notes, does anyone know who kdandy1 is? https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2078643
16:40 pinesol Launchpad bug 2078643 in Evergreen 3.12 "Ebook API integration documentation has an extra "==" in the title" [Low,Fix committed]
16:43 abneiman they have some commits & I'd like to be able to credit them with a RealNameTM
16:54 pinesol News from commits: docs: 3.13.7 release notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=98f1ca​1df5f8c400b675fd42aee204c441402762>
16:59 Dyrcona No, I don't know.
17:24 pinesol News from commits: docs: release notes 3.12.8 <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c02c13​e374de0d4854ed65a7a704b28d51fd11e9>
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17:54 pinesol News from commits: docs: 3.14 release notes updates <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5684c​3fbaf6c044d5ea9f73fcdf2c7160e1cc69>
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