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09:56 sandbergja Uggh some days it feels like contributing code to Evergreen is 20% contributing the actual code, and 80% rebasing.
10:23 sandbergja Yeah, I think I'm going to have to rewrite my changes from scratch, main has changed so much since the last time I had to rebase this
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10:38 mixo Hello
10:39 mixo I updated evergreen. After the update, when I search for items in web staff, the results do not show "Publisher:" for most of them. When I select an item, go to edit marc and click "Save changes" without actually making any changes, the search results show "Publisher:". I need to make a SQL query for all items. What SQL query is responsible for
10:39 mixo "Save changes" and I will do it myself.
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10:48 Bmagic mixo: which version of Evergreen are you on now?
10:48 sleary sandbergja 100%
10:56 mixo Bmagic 3.12.3
10:56 Bmagic are you using queued ingest?
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10:57 Bmagic mixo: https://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/rel​ease/RELEASE_NOTES_3_11.html#_queued_ingest
10:58 mixo I don't know what is this.
10:59 Bmagic you can use the Evergreen staff client: Administration -> Server Administration -> Global Flags
10:59 Bmagic and take a look at the settings mentioned in the release notes. Like this one: "Use Queued Ingest for all bib record ingest"
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11:33 mixo @Bmagic thank you. Employees have asked me to make the "Show More Details" search results show "barcodes" after "call numbers" in the "Shelving Locations" table.
11:33 pinesol mixo: MARC still isn't dead yet, alas
11:39 Bmagic ok, maybe I don't understand the problem then. You're wanting to know how to make the staff catalog search show more details always?
11:45 mixo "show more details" table shows "Library, Shelving location, Call number, Status, Due date" columns. Our library staff wants to see "Barcodes" column too.
11:47 redavis mixo, it sounds like you mean in the search results page.  Is that correct?  They're accessing it via the OPAC rather than the client?
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11:48 mixo redavis yes
11:48 mixo I mean after I click the "Show more details" button when the table appears under all the found items
11:48 redavis Hmm, and there's already been a conversation where staff using the staff tools is preferable to changing the patron interface?
11:49 redavis Because, if they're using the staff catalog rather than the OPAC, all of that information (and more) is exposed very helpfully.
11:49 redavis But, I know...retraining staff can be fraught.
11:52 mixo Some of them are lazy, some of them are old.
11:53 redavis So, the question is...do you have to develop something redundant for the lazy? And, that's kind of pinnacle lazy (not casting shade on anyone specifically)
11:54 redavis just seems like the work they're not willing to do is becoming work that you're having to do.  Which happens, and I get it...
11:55 mixo Yes, you are right
11:56 redavis and worth noting that unless it's something you want to see in Evergreen main for future releases and go through that whole process...this would be "yet another customization" each time your system upgrades. More work.
11:57 redavis just a consideration you're probably fully aware of
11:59 mixo The last question: how to change the product status from "Cancelled" to "Available"?
11:59 redavis In acquisitions?
12:00 mixo Sorry, I mean Item status in shelves.
12:00 redavis So, a cancelled transit?
12:00 mixo After check in
12:02 mixo Yes
12:03 redavis Is a "cancelled" the item status.  If so, that's something that's been added by your system and I'm not sure what it means.  If it's "cancelled transit," so long as all of the things that triggered the transit have been resolved, checking the item in again should put it into a "reshelving" status and then it'll automatically switch to "available" after a time period...that iirc is a library setting.
12:05 redavis Yeah, the reshelving library setting is "Change reshelving status interval."
12:08 mixo Thank you
12:10 redavis Sure thing.  Not sure if I articulated that in a helpful way.  There are a lot of things that can go into why an item both transits and what to do if that transit is cancelled. Often staff just want to go directly from "cancelled transit" to have an item that's available.  But if there's still a hold in play or the checkin library isn't the owning library or etc. etc., more consideration needs to be made.
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13:48 pinesol News from commits: LP#2068740  Concerto and Enhanced default password <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=daf5ad​3b4a939a3f4c2fb74e17fc702877815fda>
13:48 pinesol News from commits: lp2076225 Receipts With Images Print Whole Page <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=58b655​8c793e2580f0cc09b29901b91aa42d1e46>
13:48 pinesol News from commits: lp2076225 Receipts With Images Print Whole Page <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=2611f8​be3542e6102a19a45c7ac6d46bbb199439>
13:48 redavis ooooooo....noice
13:52 Bmagic terranm++
13:55 redavis terranm++
13:56 * redavis wringes hands and whispers "more...more....MORE....." in a mildly golemlike voice.
14:08 sleary redavis I have 65 bugs assigned to me in Launchpad and I think 63 of them are OPAC fixes that are coming as soon as we finish testing. There will be more. :)
14:08 redavis Holy heckama!!! YUMMY!!!
14:10 * sleary will find time to review other things... but probably not today
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14:12 redavis sleary++
14:13 redavis (but seriously, thank you and only do what you have the capacity for it)
14:13 Bmagic sleary++
14:15 terranm Claiming 1438
14:22 sleary none of them are targeted to 3.14 yet. I will do that when I post branches.
14:22 redavis sleary++
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14:24 kmlussier If anybody in the TEP meeting is paying attention to this channel, could you let the meeting host know I've been sitting in the waiting room?
14:25 redavis done
14:25 kmlussier redavis++
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14:34 dmoore same re: board meeting
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14:48 pinesol News from commits: LP1962757 Stamp upgrade script <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7da32​0ffd2a4f69317e8a870f71f314b025e9fc>
14:48 pinesol News from commits: LP1962757 Add create and edit info to parts <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=12c1d4​a41eb79358c51d3370cde509621c84287d>
15:12 redavis sign off on LP2063146 just in case someone wants to be its commit champion.
15:12 redavis https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2063146
15:12 pinesol Launchpad bug 2063146 in Evergreen "Wishlist: Angular Record Buckets" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
15:45 eeevil redavis++
15:47 sleary redavis++
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16:39 redavis sleary, are you still here?
16:41 redavis If so, I'm reading through the comments on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2073988. Am I correct in understanding that you've signed off on the ticket?
16:41 pinesol Launchpad bug 2073988 in Evergreen "collapsible facets in staff catalog search" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
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17:36 sleary redavis correct
17:37 sleary but then I added a bunch of stuff in the second commit that someone else would need to sign off on
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17:53 sleary redavis LMK if you'd rather I file the stickiness addition separately so the original branch can be merged
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