<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"> <head> <meta name="description" content="IRC LOG for channel #evergreen" /> <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width" /> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/s/style.css" title="Irclog Stylesheet" /> <link rel="shortcut icon" href="/s/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" /> <link rel="canonical" href="/evergreen/2024-09-10" /> <title>IRC log for #evergreen, 2024-09-10</title> </head> <body> <p><a href="http://evergreen-ils.org/"><img style="float:right; border:none" src="/s/small_logo.jpg" alt="Evergreen ILS Website"/></a></p> <h1>IRC log for #evergreen, 2024-09-10</h1> <p> <a href="/evergreen/2024-09-09" rel="prev"> ← Previous day</a> | <a href="/">Channels</a> | <a href="/evergreen/">#evergreen index</a> | <a href="/evergreen/today">Today</a> | <a href="/evergreen/2024-09-11" rel="next"> Next day →</a> | <a href="/evergreen/search">Search</a> | <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Airc.evergreen-ils.org+inurl%3Aevergreen">Google Search</a> | <a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10/text">Plain-Text</a> | <a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10/summary">summary</a> | <a href="https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=evergreen">Join Webchat</a> </p> <p>All times shown according to the server's local time.</p> <div> <span style="display: none;" id="filter_toggle"></span> <span id="summary_container" /> </div> <form action="#" name="summary_form" id="summary_form"> <span id="top" /> <table id="log" style="clear:both"> <tr class="head"> <th>Time</th> <th>Nick</th> <th>Message</th> </tr> <tr id="id_l2" class="new special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560053"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560053">07:04</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">collum joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l3" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560054"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560054">08:04</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">cbrown joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l4" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560055"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560055">08:24</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">BDorsey joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l5" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560056"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560056">08:43</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">mmorgan joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l6" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560057"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560057">08:49</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">dguarrac joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l7" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560058"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560058">08:51</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">mantis joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l8" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560059"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560059">09:16</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">redavis joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l9" class="new nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560060"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560060">11:14</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">what versions of postgresql are people running? currently thinking of targeting PG 15 for a late-fall upgrade</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l10" class="new special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560061"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560061">11:15</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">Christineb joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l11" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560062"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560062">11:18</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">ian2 joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l12" class="new nick nick_berick"> <td class="time" id="i_560063"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560063">11:19</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">csharp_: 10 now, 14 in the Fall</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l13" class="new nick nick_jeffdavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560064"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560064">11:22</a></td> <td style="color: #c40092" class="nick">jeffdavis</td> <td class="msg ">we've been on PG14 for a year-ish</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l14" class="new nick nick_ian2"> <td class="time" id="i_560065"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560065">11:24</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">Hi all. I'm trying to move all action triggers to the system level for a large library system for simplicity. So far, at least hold ready notices are causing problems. We suspect its because the pickup location wont match the system level id. Has anyone tried this or have any input on the subject? Is it even possible?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l15" class="new nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560066"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560066">11:25</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">berick: jeffdavis: thanks!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l16" class="cont nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560067"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560067">11:26</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">ian2: so the action_triggers were previously by branch? or by consortium (top-level)?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l17" class="cont nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560068"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560068">11:27</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">also "for simplicity" - you might need to elaborate :-)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l18" class="new nick nick_ian2"> <td class="time" id="i_560069"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560069">11:27</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">Branch level. I meant to mention that.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l19" class="new nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560070"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560070">11:27</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">ah</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l20" class="new nick nick_ian2"> <td class="time" id="i_560071"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560071">11:27</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">By simplicity I mean like the DRY principle. Most of the branch notices are very similar and the system requested this change.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l21" class="new nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560072"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560072">11:27</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">got it</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l22" class="new nick nick_ian2"> <td class="time" id="i_560073"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560073">11:28</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">So far, I have been able to trigger a welcome notice, but hold ready isnt cooperating</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l23" class="new nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560074"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560074">11:28</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">ian2: I would guess that the templates need updating if they aren't showing the correct unit? would you be able to pastebin the problem template and share the link?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l24" class="new nick nick_ian2"> <td class="time" id="i_560075"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560075">11:29</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">I would think the template was the problem if the notice was even triggering.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l25" class="new nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560076"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560076">11:29</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">oh</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l26" class="cont nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560077"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560077">11:29</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">do you see any error messages in the logs?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l27" class="new nick nick_ian2"> <td class="time" id="i_560078"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560078">11:30</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">Yeah. Nothing is showing up in the action_trigger.event table</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l28" class="cont nick nick_ian2"> <td class="time" id="i_560079"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560079">11:30</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">Which logs?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l29" class="new nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560080"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560080">11:30</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">depending on your log setup, the opensrf system logs for the server running the action_trigger_runner.pl process</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l30" class="cont nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560081"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560081">11:31</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">on a default install, that would be in /openils/var/log/osrfsys.log, but hopefully that's not how you have it configured on a production system</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l31" class="new nick nick_ian2"> <td class="time" id="i_560082"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560082">11:32</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">Ill take a look</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l32" class="new nick nick_mmorgan dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560083"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560083">11:32</a></td> <td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td> <td class="msg ">ian2: FWIW we have system level hold notifications successfully working for the child branches.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l33" class="new nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560084"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560084">11:32</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">if configured to work with syslog, it would be in /var/log/evergreen/YYYY/MM/DD and be divided by service and hour</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l34" class="cont nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560085"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560085">11:33</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">(again, lots of possibilities in how it might be configured)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l35" class="cont nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560086"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560086">11:33</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">all of our A/T stuff is set at the consortium level</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l36" class="new nick nick_ian2 dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560087"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560087">11:33</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">@mmorgan Thats good to know. Should mean its possible.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l37" class="new nick nick_pinesol"> <td class="time" id="i_560088"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560088">11:33</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">ian2: uh huh.. please tell me more about that</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l38" class="new nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560089"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560089">11:34</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">ian2: @ will trigger pinesbot - to address someone directly do nick:</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l39" class="cont nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560090"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560090">11:34</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">pinesol: bad</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l40" class="new nick nick_pinesol"> <td class="time" id="i_560091"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560091">11:34</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">csharp_: PHRASING!!!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l41" class="new nick nick_ian2 dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560092"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560092">11:34</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">csharp_ were looking into the logs now. Im not sure what our log configuration is like on this server so I had to pass that off to someone else.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l42" class="new nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560093"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560093">11:34</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">ok</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l43" class="new nick nick_ian2 dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560094"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560094">11:34</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">got it</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l44" class="cont nick nick_ian2 dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560095"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560095">11:35</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">mmorgan: was there anything specific ya'll had to do to set it up?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l45" class="new nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560096"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560096">11:37</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">ian2: logs information that's probably useful: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BJ7kSr5LfPkxXRhcrYjNyPlbT9PlNFHg6zL-tyetnKA/edit?pli=1" title="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BJ7kSr5LfPkxXRhcrYjNyPlbT9PlNFHg6zL-tyetnKA/edit?pli=1">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BJ7kSr5LfPkxXRhcrYjNyPlbT9PlNFHg6zL-tyetnKA/edit?pli=1</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l46" class="cont nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560097"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560097">11:38</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">that doc or something like it needs to go into the official documentation</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l47" class="cont nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560098"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560098">11:38</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">I'll submit a docs pull request at some point</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l48" class="new nick nick_mmorgan dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560099"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560099">11:38</a></td> <td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td> <td class="msg ">ian2: Not really, we originally had a single hold.available trigger at the CONS level, but moved them all down to system and branch level during covid times by cloning the CONS one and editing the owner. Then we could enable when appropriate.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l49" class="cont nick nick_mmorgan dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560100"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560100">11:41</a></td> <td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td> <td class="msg ">ian2: I assume you're testing by checking in a held item so that it goes on the Holds Shelf?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l50" class="new nick nick_ian2"> <td class="time" id="i_560101"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560101">11:42</a></td> <td style="color: #00542e" class="nick">ian2</td> <td class="msg ">You assume correct</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l51" class="new nick nick_mmorgan dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560102"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560102">11:42</a></td> <td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td> <td class="msg ">:)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l52" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560103"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560103">12:17</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">csharp_: PG15 is working for us, but I've been limiting it to Evergreen 3.12 and higher. I can't say for previous versions of EG</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l53" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560104"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560104">12:17</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">and disable JIT!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l54" class="new special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560105"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560105">12:24</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">BDorsey joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l55" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560106"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560106">12:39</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">collum joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l56" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560107"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560107">14:02</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">Dyrcona joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l57" class="new nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560108"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560108">14:33</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic: cool - thank you - we're on 3.12 and moving to 3.14 in February</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l58" class="cont nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560109"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560109">14:34</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic: looking to port over my logs documentation into current EG and looking for a suitable category that encompasses server admin</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l59" class="cont nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560110"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560110">14:34</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">looks like Evergreen/docs/modules/admin/pages has similarly server-y sorts of things</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l60" class="cont nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560111"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560111">14:35</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">question is open to anyone - picking on Bmagic because I know he's done docs work</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l61" class="new nick nick_jeff dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560112"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560112">14:35</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">how many folk do what kind of analysis of logs, and would be potentially disrupted by changes in logging format?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l62" class="new nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560113"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560113">14:35</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">jeff: it's a good question I don't have an answer to</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l63" class="cont nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560114"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560114">14:37</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">also wondering if we need to explicitly have a "Linux administration" section of the docs (don't like that term, but so many admin, sysadmin, etc. terms are already used and overloaded with meaning)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l64" class="cont nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560115"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560115">14:37</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">continuing our recent discussions about what "admin" means</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l65" class="new special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560116"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560116">14:37</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">jvwoolf joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l66" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560117"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560117">14:52</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l67" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560118"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560118">14:54</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l68" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560119"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560119">14:58</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">Dev meeting in a minute</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l69" class="new nick nick_eeevil dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560120"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560120">14:59</a></td> <td style="color: #006b95" class="nick">eeevil</td> <td class="msg ">jeff: I suspect for enough benefit we could all cope with a formatting change ... are you thinking of logging json or some such?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l70" class="new special"> <td class="time" id="i_560121"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560121">14:59</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">Dyrcona joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l71" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560122"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560122">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#startmeeting 2024-09-10 - Developer Meeting</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l72" class="new nick nick_pinesol"> <td class="time" id="i_560123"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560123">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Meeting started Tue Sep 10 15:00:18 2024 US/Eastern. The chair is Bmagic. Information about MeetBot at <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot" title="http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot">http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot</a>.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l73" class="cont nick nick_pinesol"> <td class="time" id="i_560124"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560124">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l74" class="cont nick nick_pinesol"> <td class="time" id="i_560125"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560125">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">The meeting name has been set to '2024_09_10___developer_meeting'</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l75" class="new special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560126"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560126">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">collum joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l76" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560127"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560127">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Agenda at <a href="https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2024-09-10" title="https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2024-09-10">https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2024-09-10</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l77" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560128"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560128">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#topic Introductions</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l78" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560129"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560129">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Bmagic = Blake GH, MOBIUS</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l79" class="new nick nick_Dyrcona dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560130"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560130">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td> <td class="msg ">#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, C/W MARS, Inc.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l80" class="new nick nick_eeevil"> <td class="time" id="i_560131"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560131">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #006b95" class="nick">eeevil</td> <td class="msg ">#info eeevil = Mike Rylander, EOLI</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l81" class="new nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560132"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560132">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">#info csharp_ = Chris Sharp, GPLS</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l82" class="new nick nick_collum"> <td class="time" id="i_560133"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560133">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #670052" class="nick">collum</td> <td class="msg ">#info collum = Garry Collum, KCPL</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l83" class="new nick nick_shulabramble dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560134"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560134">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #5500c0" class="nick">shulabramble</td> <td class="msg ">#info shulabramble = Shula Link, GCHRL</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l84" class="new nick nick_dluch"> <td class="time" id="i_560135"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560135">15:00</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">#info dluch = Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l85" class="new nick nick_berick dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560136"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560136">15:01</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">#info berick Bill Erickson, KCLS</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l86" class="new nick nick_abneiman"> <td class="time" id="i_560137"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560137">15:01</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">#info abneiman = Andrea Buntz Neiman, EOLI</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l87" class="new nick nick_mmorgan dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560138"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560138">15:02</a></td> <td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td> <td class="msg ">#info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l88" class="new nick nick_sandbergja"> <td class="time" id="i_560139"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560139">15:02</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">#info sandbergja = Jane Sandberg, PUL</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l89" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560140"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560140">15:02</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">welcome everyone!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l90" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560141"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560141">15:02</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">#info sleary = Stephanie Leary, EOLI</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l91" class="new nick nick_jeff dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560142"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560142">15:02</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">#info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l92" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560143"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560143">15:02</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#topic Action Items from Last Meeting</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l93" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560144"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560144">15:02</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info eeevil will open a bug for cross-column stats targets</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l94" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560145"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560145">15:03</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">the cataloging meeting is running a little long today; some people will be with us in a moment</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l95" class="new nick nick_eeevil"> <td class="time" id="i_560146"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560146">15:03</a></td> <td style="color: #006b95" class="nick">eeevil</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic: one day, he will.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l96" class="new special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560147"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560147">15:03</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">terranm joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l97" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560148"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560148">15:03</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">sleary: no prob</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l98" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560149"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560149">15:03</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#action eeevil will open a bug for cross-column stats targets</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l99" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560150"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560150">15:03</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">probably the same for the next one</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l100" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560151"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560151">15:03</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info gmcharlt - create a Git commit message type and update bug 2051946</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l101" class="new nick nick_pinesol dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560152"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560152">15:04</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Launchpad bug 2051946 in Evergreen "institute a Git commit message template" [Wishlist,New] <a href="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946" title="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946">https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946</a> - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l102" class="new nick nick_terranm"> <td class="time" id="i_560153"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560153">15:04</a></td> <td style="color: #565100" class="nick">terranm</td> <td class="msg ">#info terranm = Terran McCanna, PINES</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l103" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560154"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560154">15:05</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#action gmcharlt - create a Git commit message type and update bug 2051946</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l104" class="new nick nick_pinesol"> <td class="time" id="i_560155"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560155">15:05</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Launchpad bug 2051946 in Evergreen "institute a Git commit message template" [Wishlist,New] <a href="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946" title="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946">https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051946</a> - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l105" class="new special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560156"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560156">15:05</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">redavis joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l106" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560157"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560157">15:05</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">redavis: welcome, just in time for your action item!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l107" class="new nick nick_redavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560158"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560158">15:05</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">#info redavis = Ruth Frasur Davis, ECDI</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l108" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560159"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560159">15:05</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info redavis will look at making a regular calendar event for translation work in lock step with point releases</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l109" class="new nick nick_redavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560160"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560160">15:06</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">Hah! Okay, well, I've discovered I'm not sure how to do anything in lockstep. Other than be mindful that there needs to be time for translations.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l110" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560161"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560161">15:07</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">maybe the release manager(s) should do the calendar piece?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l111" class="new nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560162"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560162">15:07</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">@who is mindful and demure?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l112" class="new nick nick_pinesol"> <td class="time" id="i_560163"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560163">15:07</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">troy is mindful and demure.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l113" class="new nick nick_Dyrcona dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560164"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560164">15:07</a></td> <td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td> <td class="msg ">Time has been set aside in the 3.14 release plan for translations.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l114" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560165"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560165">15:08</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">In doing the regular maintenance releases, it seems reasonable to perhaps note that translations might lag behind by a release.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l115" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560166"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560166">15:08</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">good point</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l116" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560167"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560167">15:09</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I'm not sure if we're dancing around making an official change to our workflow or not</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l117" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560168"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560168">15:09</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">For a major release, it's "easy" to build in a translation period. For point releases, because the expectation is that they happen more regularly with a much quicker turnaround, making a longer merge pause doesn't seem like a great idea.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l118" class="new nick nick_abneiman dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560169"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560169">15:09</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">is it reasonable (since we're better at regular point releases) that we could have a convention of, say, translations for x.y.4 features go in to x.y.5?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l119" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560170"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560170">15:10</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">abneiman++ #my recommendation exactly.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l120" class="new nick nick_jvwoolf dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560171"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560171">15:10</a></td> <td style="color: #360031" class="nick">jvwoolf</td> <td class="msg ">#info jvwoolf is Jessica Woolford, Bibliomation</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l121" class="new nick nick_Dyrcona"> <td class="time" id="i_560172"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560172">15:10</a></td> <td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td> <td class="msg ">We could also just not backport string changes.... *ducks*</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l122" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560173"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560173">15:10</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">and the change really boils down to some language to that effect in the release email/blog post?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l123" class="new nick nick_jvwoolf"> <td class="time" id="i_560174"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560174">15:10</a></td> <td style="color: #360031" class="nick">jvwoolf</td> <td class="msg ">(Sorry for the tardiness, will read the backscroll!)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l124" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560175"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560175">15:11</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">jvwoolf: no worries at all</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l125" class="new nick nick_shulabramble"> <td class="time" id="i_560176"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560176">15:11</a></td> <td style="color: #5500c0" class="nick">shulabramble</td> <td class="msg ">abneiman++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l126" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560177"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560177">15:11</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">backporting strings is necessary for many accessibility changes, which often involve ARIA labels. Sorry.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l127" class="new nick nick_abneiman"> <td class="time" id="i_560178"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560178">15:11</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">that ^^</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l128" class="cont nick nick_abneiman"> <td class="time" id="i_560179"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560179">15:11</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic: words in the post but also communication to / from the point release teams and translation folks</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l129" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560180"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560180">15:12</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">so maybe a reminder every month, prior to point release via email to the list?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l130" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560181"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560181">15:12</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">I'm gonna defer on wording. It's worth noting that once a version goes out of support in terms of new releases (other than security), there might be one more release that is exclusively translation content</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l131" class="new nick nick_abneiman dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560182"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560182">15:13</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">this is also where we should get input from our translators, none of whom are here I believe</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l132" class="new nick nick_Dyrcona"> <td class="time" id="i_560183"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560183">15:13</a></td> <td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td> <td class="msg ">Am I mistaken that the main concern was having time for translations during a major release? Did we discuss point releases much (at all?) during that meeting?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l133" class="new nick nick_redavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560184"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560184">15:13</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">The action item was about point releases.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l134" class="new special"> <td class="time" id="i_560185"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560185">15:14</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">jihpringle joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l135" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560186"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560186">15:14</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I think we can table this?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l136" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560187"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560187">15:14</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">It seems like the major release issue isn't one. If I'm understanding things</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l137" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560188"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560188">15:15</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">should someone send a message out to the community with a suggestion/idea on how to move forward?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l138" class="new nick nick_abneiman"> <td class="time" id="i_560189"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560189">15:15</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">maybe the point-release aspect can be a hackaway discussion, and before that, we can intentionally solicit feedback from translators</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l139" class="cont nick nick_abneiman"> <td class="time" id="i_560190"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560190">15:16</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">if so, I can take that action item (solicitation of feedback)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l140" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560191"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560191">15:16</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">abneiman++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l141" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560192"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560192">15:16</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">I think that's a good idea.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l142" class="cont nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560193"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560193">15:16</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">abneiman++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l143" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560194"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560194">15:17</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#action abneiman will intentionally solicit feedback from translators about translation work in lock step with point releases</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l144" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560195"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560195">15:17</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">And I'd like to ask that my action item not be carried forward.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l145" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560196"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560196">15:17</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">:)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l146" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560197"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560197">15:17</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">ok abneiman++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l147" class="new nick nick_abneiman"> <td class="time" id="i_560198"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560198">15:17</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">and it's more of a two-step than a lockstep, but whatevs. Moving on!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l148" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560199"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560199">15:17</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">gotta keep our schedule!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l149" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560200"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560200">15:17</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Dyrcona will look into git integration with POEditor</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l150" class="new nick nick_Dyrcona"> <td class="time" id="i_560201"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560201">15:17</a></td> <td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td> <td class="msg ">I looked into it, and the POEditor project owner has to set up the git integration.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l151" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560202"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560202">15:18</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">do we need to send message to gmcharlt in order to proceed?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l152" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560203"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560203">15:19</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">It might have already been done but, if not, yes.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l153" class="new nick nick_Dyrcona dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560204"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560204">15:19</a></td> <td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td> <td class="msg ">I contacted gmcharlt through the form on POEditor.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l154" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560205"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560205">15:20</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#action waiting on</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l155" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560206"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560206">15:20</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">whoops</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l156" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560207"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560207">15:20</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#action waiting on gmcharlt for access to POEditor for git integration</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l157" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560208"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560208">15:20</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info sleary and sandbergja will create/consolidate the test writing wiki page(s)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l158" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560209"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560209">15:21</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja and I will meet later this week to work on that</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l159" class="cont nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560210"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560210">15:21</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">carry forward, please</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l160" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560211"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560211">15:21</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#action sleary and sandbergja will create/consolidate the test writing wiki page(s)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l161" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560212"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560212">15:21</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info sandbergja will make it easier for folks to know how to run the tests in single file mode and all-mode</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l162" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560213"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560213">15:21</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I guess that's the same thing?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l163" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560214"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560214">15:21</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">yes</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l164" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560215"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560215">15:21</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info berick and jeff will look at making Hatch look better in the chrome store, so that it's not removed</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l165" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560216"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560216">15:21</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info berick: added pullrequest for bug 2076921</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l166" class="new nick nick_pinesol dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560217"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560217">15:21</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Launchpad bug 2076921 in Evergreen "Hatch: Chrome Extension Requires Redevelopment" [High,Confirmed] <a href="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921" title="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921">https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921</a> - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l167" class="new nick nick_jeff"> <td class="time" id="i_560218"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560218">15:21</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">berick has a branch / pullrequest for the Manifest V3 changes, and I've just grabbed the bug to test. The changes look like they were "routine" and not "we hav to completely change our approach", so I'm cautiously optimistic. :-)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l168" class="new nick nick_berick dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560219"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560219">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">yeah, was less intrusive than I expected</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l169" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560220"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560220">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">jeff++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l170" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560221"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560221">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">berick++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l171" class="new nick nick_mmorgan dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560222"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560222">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td> <td class="msg ">berick++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l172" class="cont nick nick_mmorgan dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560223"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560223">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td> <td class="msg ">jeff++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l173" class="new nick nick_jeff"> <td class="time" id="i_560224"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560224">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">other testing welcome, especially if you feel your environment may be unusual (though this changes the extension, and not the native messenger / locally installed bits)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l174" class="new nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560225"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560225">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">jeff++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l175" class="cont nick nick_csharp_ dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560226"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560226">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">berick++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l176" class="new nick nick_shulabramble"> <td class="time" id="i_560227"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560227">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #5500c0" class="nick">shulabramble</td> <td class="msg ">jeff++ berick++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l177" class="new special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560228"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560228">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">terranm67 joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l178" class="new nick nick_berick"> <td class="time" id="i_560229"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560229">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">hatch is luckily a pretty simple extension, the extension part anyway</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l179" class="new nick nick_jeff dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560230"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560230">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">berick++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l180" class="new nick nick_dluch"> <td class="time" id="i_560231"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560231">15:22</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">berick++ jeff++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l181" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560232"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560232">15:23</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">who is the one that installs/updates the extension in the store?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l182" class="new nick nick_berick"> <td class="time" id="i_560233"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560233">15:23</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">i should have access</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l183" class="cont nick nick_berick"> <td class="time" id="i_560234"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560234">15:23</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">galen does too, maybe others</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l184" class="new nick nick_jeff dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560235"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560235">15:23</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">I think the next step assuming successful testing will be to do a short beta test in the Chrome web store, to ensure that the V2 -> V3 upgrade doesn't introduce any unexpected "hey you have to re-re-enable this 'sideloaded' extension" problems, etc.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l185" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560236"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560236">15:23</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">jeff: perfect</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l186" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560237"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560237">15:24</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">we need a sign-off, merge, and beta version in the store?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l187" class="new nick nick_berick dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560238"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560238">15:24</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">and likely some docs around Firefox, since I had to break the manifests into one file per browser</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l188" class="new nick nick_jeff"> <td class="time" id="i_560239"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560239">15:25</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">prettyty much. please carry forward as testing in progress, and I hope/expect we should have progress to report next meeting.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l189" class="cont nick nick_jeff"> <td class="time" id="i_560240"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560240">15:25</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">assuming my keyboard / terminal stops repeating my letters. :-P</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l190" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560241"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560241">15:25</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">lol</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l191" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560242"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560242">15:26</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#action bug 2076921 expected to get more testing and merged, and beta uploaded to store</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l192" class="new nick nick_pinesol dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560243"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560243">15:26</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Launchpad bug 2076921 in Evergreen "Hatch: Chrome Extension Requires Redevelopment" [High,Confirmed] <a href="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921" title="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921">https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076921</a> - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l193" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560244"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560244">15:26</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Bmagic will work on upgrading the version of DokuWiki</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l194" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560245"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560245">15:26</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I did it! Thank you, thank you</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l195" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560246"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560246">15:26</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">just kidding, I did nothing</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l196" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560247"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560247">15:26</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">csharp_ did though! right?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l197" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560248"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560248">15:26</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">the wiki has been upgraded</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l198" class="cont nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560249"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560249">15:26</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">I added the tags plugin while I was there</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l199" class="new nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560250"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560250">15:26</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">it was sleary I think</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l200" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560251"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560251">15:26</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">sleary++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l201" class="new nick nick_dluch"> <td class="time" id="i_560252"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560252">15:27</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">sleary++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l202" class="new nick nick_mmorgan dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560253"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560253">15:27</a></td> <td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td> <td class="msg ">sleary++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l203" class="new nick nick_shulabramble"> <td class="time" id="i_560254"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560254">15:27</a></td> <td style="color: #5500c0" class="nick">shulabramble</td> <td class="msg ">sleary++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l204" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560255"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560255">15:27</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#topic Evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l205" class="new nick nick_Dyrcona"> <td class="time" id="i_560256"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560256">15:27</a></td> <td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td> <td class="msg ">sleary++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l206" class="new nick nick_sandbergja dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560257"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560257">15:27</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">sleary++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l207" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560258"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560258">15:27</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Point releases 9/18 - signups here BuildMaster Coordination</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l208" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560259"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560259">15:27</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#link <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gZayHfF7qK0zwLMEAXt-PbKBMiAM_F6EZguqzIYceBY/edit?usp=sharing" title="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gZayHfF7qK0zwLMEAXt-PbKBMiAM_F6EZguqzIYceBY/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gZayHfF7qK0zwLMEAXt-PbKBMiAM_F6EZguqzIYceBY/edit?usp=sharing</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l209" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560260"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560260">15:29</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">funny, we have a Hatch topic but we've pretty much covered it already</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l210" class="new nick nick_redavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560261"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560261">15:29</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic++ abneiman++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l211" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560262"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560262">15:30</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">get your signups!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l212" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560263"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560263">15:30</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#topic Documentation</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l213" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560264"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560264">15:30</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Documentation Interest Group (DIG) met on Sept. 5</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l214" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560265"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560265">15:30</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Defined many terms to run through Vale (<a href="https://vale.sh/)" title="https://vale.sh/)">https://vale.sh/)</a> for documentation consistency checks</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l215" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560266"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560266">15:30</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Discussed last Vale spreadsheet and getting as many of those fixed by October's meeting as possible</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l216" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560267"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560267">15:31</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info October's meeting with focus on 3.14 documentation needs</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l217" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560268"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560268">15:31</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Question (went to listserv, too): This bug: <a href="https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/docs/latest/opac/visibility_on_the_web.html" title="https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/docs/latest/opac/visibility_on_the_web.html">https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/docs/latest/opac/visibility_on_the_web.html</a> is orphaned in the docs. Is it still a valid page? Is the part about SKOS Support that says “This is an experimental, "under-the-hood" feature that will be built upon in subsequent releases.” correct? Is it still an experimental feature?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l218" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560269"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560269">15:31</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#link <a href="https://vale.sh/" title="https://vale.sh/">https://vale.sh/</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l219" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560270"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560270">15:31</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#link <a href="https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/docs/latest/opac/visibility_on_the_web.html" title="https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/docs/latest/opac/visibility_on_the_web.html">https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/docs/latest/opac/visibility_on_the_web.html</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l220" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560271"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560271">15:33</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I think* it's related to Dan Scotts work?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l221" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560272"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560272">15:33</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg "><a href="https://stuff.coffeecode.net/2017/evergreen-progressive-web-app/#/" title="https://stuff.coffeecode.net/2017/evergreen-progressive-web-app/#/">https://stuff.coffeecode.net/2017/evergreen-progressive-web-app/#/</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l222" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560273"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560273">15:33</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">That last one, the Question...on the email, it was identified as added by sandbergja and the repective release notes and launchpad bug. But is it still experimental? Does it need to be not orphaned anymore</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l223" class="cont nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560274"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560274">15:33</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l224" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560275"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560275">15:33</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">maybe not related, but it reminds me of his 2017 presentation</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l225" class="new nick nick_sandbergja dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560276"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560276">15:34</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">Just a note regarding vale: there is a pull request ready on bug 2076555, to make sure that we keep up our high standards in future docs work :-)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l226" class="new nick nick_pinesol"> <td class="time" id="i_560277"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560277">15:34</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Launchpad bug 2076555 in Evergreen "Add vale for linting documentation" [Undecided,New] <a href="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076555" title="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076555">https://launchpad.net/bugs/2076555</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l227" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560278"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560278">15:34</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l228" class="new special"> <td class="time" id="i_560279"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560279">15:34</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">terranm joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l229" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560280"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560280">15:34</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l230" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560281"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560281">15:34</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l231" class="new nick nick_redavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560282"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560282">15:35</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l232" class="new nick nick_shulabramble"> <td class="time" id="i_560283"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560283">15:35</a></td> <td style="color: #5500c0" class="nick">shulabramble</td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l233" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560284"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560284">15:36</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">And if no one knows anymore, does that mean we can lose that section/page?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l234" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560285"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560285">15:36</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I think it should be linked in the nav somewhere</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l235" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560286"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560286">15:36</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">I don't think we should lose that--but I'm just now looking at it. I will review</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l236" class="new nick nick_abneiman"> <td class="time" id="i_560287"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560287">15:36</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic: within the OPAC section? or elsewhere?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l237" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560288"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560288">15:37</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">Thanks, sleary!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l238" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560289"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560289">15:37</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">maybe system admin</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l239" class="new nick nick_abneiman dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560290"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560290">15:37</a></td> <td style="color: #001e6c" class="nick">* abneiman</td> <td class="msg act ">thinks it belongs elsewhere</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l240" class="new nick nick_abneiman"> <td class="time" id="i_560291"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560291">15:37</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">yeah, admin, or what we used to call admin_initial_setup</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l241" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560292"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560292">15:37</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">"System Configuration and Customization"</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l242" class="new nick nick_dluch"> <td class="time" id="i_560293"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560293">15:37</a></td> <td style="color: #00442d" class="nick">* dluch</td> <td class="msg act ">agrees with abneiman</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l243" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560294"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560294">15:37</a></td> <td style="color: #03120e" class="nick">* sleary</td> <td class="msg act ">disagrees :) but will have more thoughts later</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l244" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560295"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560295">15:38</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Next DIG meeting is October 3.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l245" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560296"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560296">15:38</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">:-D</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l246" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560297"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560297">15:38</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">anything else on docs?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l247" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560298"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560298">15:38</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">Not from me! Unless there are questions?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l248" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560299"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560299">15:39</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">other than: I think our docs site is really rockin' these days</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l249" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560300"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560300">15:39</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">DIG++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l250" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560301"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560301">15:39</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">DIG++ # indeed</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l251" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560302"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560302">15:40</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I was worried we wouldn't make this meeting in an hour, and now I starting to feel like we're going to end early :)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l252" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560303"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560303">15:40</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#topic Launchpad Status (as of noon Eastern)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l253" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560304"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560304">15:40</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">incoming!!!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l254" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560305"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560305">15:40</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Open Bugs - 3141</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l255" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560306"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560306">15:40</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Pullrequests - 71</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l256" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560307"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560307">15:40</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Signedoff - 24</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l257" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560308"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560308">15:40</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Needswork - 87</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l258" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560309"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560309">15:40</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Needstestplan - 3</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l259" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560310"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560310">15:40</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Needsrebase - 26</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l260" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560311"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560311">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#topic Launchpad Status since last meeting</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l261" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560312"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560312">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Bugs Added - 61</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l262" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560313"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560313">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Pullrequest tag Added - 40</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l263" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560314"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560314">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Signedoff tag Added - 10</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l264" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560315"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560315">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Needswork tag Added - 13</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l265" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560316"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560316">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Needstestplan tag Added - 3</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l266" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560317"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560317">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Needsrebase tag Added - 6</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l267" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560318"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560318">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Fix Committed - 40</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l268" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560319"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560319">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#topic New Business - Preparing for OPAC template upgrade to Bootstrap 5: rewrite jQuery-specific JS wherever possible, please. - SL</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l269" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560320"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560320">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">ah, that's me</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l270" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560321"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560321">15:41</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">I've created (for my own purposes) a tracking spreadsheet of LP tickets for 3.14 - <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nVuknGBCOSUxBFId0bORVrJYw4Un0mD0kqr67d_AJ84/edit?usp=sharing" title="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nVuknGBCOSUxBFId0bORVrJYw4Un0mD0kqr67d_AJ84/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nVuknGBCOSUxBFId0bORVrJYw4Un0mD0kqr67d_AJ84/edit?usp=sharing</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l271" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560322"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560322">15:42</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">yummy! tracking</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l272" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560323"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560323">15:42</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">Just a note that there are several things that have signoffs and need someone to commit to committing them.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l273" class="new nick nick_jvwoolf dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560324"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560324">15:42</a></td> <td style="color: #360031" class="nick">jvwoolf</td> <td class="msg ">redavis++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l274" class="cont nick nick_jvwoolf dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560325"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560325">15:42</a></td> <td style="color: #360031" class="nick">jvwoolf</td> <td class="msg ">It's a beautiful thing</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l275" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560326"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560326">15:42</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">Keeping in mind that there will also be a merge pause for the upcoming point releases...so...plan accordingly?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l276" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560327"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560327">15:42</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">redavis++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l277" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560328"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560328">15:42</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">so I've been working on accessibility in the Bootstrap OPAC templates (PR forthcoming) and, as part of that project, assessing what it would take to upgrade our default theme to Bootstrap 5. The changes would be extensive enough that I'm not recommending that we do it in this branch/release, but...</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l278" class="new nick nick_redavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560329"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560329">15:43</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">sleary, maybe next?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l279" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560330"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560330">15:43</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">Bootstrap 5 doesn't require jQuery as a dependency anymore, so it would behoove us to get rid of our jQuery code wherever we can and slim down our page load</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l280" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560331"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560331">15:43</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">RIP jQuery</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l281" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560332"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560332">15:43</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">there is not much, and I think I'm removing about 90% of it as part of this project: the password eye, dialogs, and tooltips</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l282" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560333"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560333">15:43</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">you were such a good friend</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l283" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560334"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560334">15:44</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">(not removing those features, just removing the jQuery-specific code)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l284" class="cont nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560335"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560335">15:44</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">upshot: if you find any jQuery that is *not* related to any of those three things, and you can rewrite it as vanilla JS, please do so</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l285" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560336"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560336">15:44</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">Sounds like a good candidate for Evergreen 4.0...</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l286" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560337"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560337">15:44</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">indeed</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l287" class="new nick nick_jeff dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560338"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560338">15:44</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">sleary++ thanks!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l288" class="new nick nick_dluch"> <td class="time" id="i_560339"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560339">15:44</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">sleary++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l289" class="new nick nick_redavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560340"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560340">15:44</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">yes, and also "slim down our page load"</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l290" class="cont nick nick_redavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560341"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560341">15:45</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">that's a thing of delight and beauty</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l291" class="cont nick nick_redavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560342"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560342">15:45</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">sleary++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l292" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560343"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560343">15:45</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">carousels?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l293" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560344"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560344">15:45</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">performance is the next big topic on my to-do list, now that we've made a significant dent in accessibility issues</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l294" class="cont nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560345"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560345">15:45</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic good question. I haven't looked closely at Glide yet</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l295" class="new nick nick_jeff"> <td class="time" id="i_560346"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560346">15:45</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">sleary: "don't introduce any new jQuery-specific JS", "rewrite/remove as encountered" for now, and then active hunting will be part of the final prep for upgrpgrading to Bootstrap 5?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l296" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560347"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560347">15:46</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">jeff: exactly</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l297" class="new nick nick_jeff"> <td class="time" id="i_560348"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560348">15:46</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">there are those fun doubled letters making new words for me again. "upgrpgrading"</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l298" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560349"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560349">15:46</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">I will send that to the list; I added this ~15 minutes before the meeting :)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l299" class="new nick nick_sandbergja"> <td class="time" id="i_560350"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560350">15:47</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">A note that I'm also trying to remove dojo from the opac js. So... I don't think anybody was planning to do so, but don't add any new dojo to the opac either plz?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l300" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560351"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560351">15:47</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l301" class="new nick nick_dluch"> <td class="time" id="i_560352"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560352">15:47</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l302" class="new nick nick_Dyrcona dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560353"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560353">15:47</a></td> <td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td> <td class="msg ">Well, we have plans to eliminate dojo completely, so sandbergja++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l303" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560354"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560354">15:47</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">I will fill this in with more info later: <a href="https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=opac:bootstrap5" title="https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=opac:bootstrap5">https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=opac:bootstrap5</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l304" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560355"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560355">15:48</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">Glide is "Dependency-free"</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l305" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560356"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560356">15:48</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l306" class="new nick nick_jeffdavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560357"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560357">15:48</a></td> <td style="color: #c40092" class="nick">jeffdavis</td> <td class="msg ">ebook API stuff needs to be rewritten to not be dojo-based - I presumed we'd move it to jQuery, would be good to know if there should be a different target for that</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l307" class="new nick nick_sandbergja"> <td class="time" id="i_560358"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560358">15:48</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">woah nice, way to go Glide!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l308" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560359"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560359">15:48</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#link <a href="https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=opac:bootstrap5" title="https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=opac:bootstrap5">https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=opac:bootstrap5</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l309" class="new nick nick_jeff"> <td class="time" id="i_560360"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560360">15:48</a></td> <td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td> <td class="msg ">At the appropriate time, I recommend we drive a stake through both jQuery and Dojo, just to be safe.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l310" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560361"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560361">15:48</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">jeffdavis yes please. I can lend a hand with rewrites</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l311" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560362"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560362">15:48</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">jeff++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l312" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560363"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560363">15:49</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">jeff++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l313" class="new nick nick_sandbergja"> <td class="time" id="i_560364"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560364">15:49</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">jeffdavis: I'm glad you mentioned that, I was wondering about that</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l314" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560365"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560365">15:49</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">sure! It seems like we don't have a lot* of jQuery and dojo code integrated anymore</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l315" class="new nick nick_dluch"> <td class="time" id="i_560366"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560366">15:49</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">jeffdavis++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l316" class="new nick nick_sandbergja dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560367"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560367">15:49</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">can it be accurately tested with the test ebook, or would it need to be done with an Overdrive subscription?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l317" class="new nick nick_dluch"> <td class="time" id="i_560368"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560368">15:49</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">jeff++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l318" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560369"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560369">15:49</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">jeffdavis++ jeff++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l319" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560370"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560370">15:49</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic that is my impression, but there may be random pockets of stuff I haven't unearthed</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l320" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560371"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560371">15:50</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">fewer_dependencies++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l321" class="new nick nick_jeffdavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560372"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560372">15:50</a></td> <td style="color: #c40092" class="nick">jeffdavis</td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja: it's been a long time since I touched it, but the test stuff ought to be enough to confirm that the UI is working IIRC</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l322" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560373"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560373">15:50</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">and I will note that it will still be possible to include jQuery if you want it for your custom theme; I just want to eliminate its weight from our default templates, since most of what it does can be done in plain JS these days</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l323" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560374"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560374">15:51</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">sleary++ # yes!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l324" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560375"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560375">15:51</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">ok, anything else on that?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l325" class="new nick nick_sandbergja dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560376"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560376">15:52</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">just to return to my favorite soapbox, it's much easier to write automated tests for opac js behavior that does not rely on external dependencies</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l326" class="cont nick nick_sandbergja dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560377"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560377">15:52</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">so fewer_dependencies++ for that reason too!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l327" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560378"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560378">15:52</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">sandbergja++ automated_testing++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l328" class="new nick nick_shulabramble dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560379"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560379">15:52</a></td> <td style="color: #5500c0" class="nick">shulabramble</td> <td class="msg ">plain_js++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l329" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560380"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560380">15:53</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">a win, win, and probably another win too</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l330" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560381"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560381">15:53</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">less is more and more is better and better is...</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l331" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560382"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560382">15:53</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">That just about wraps us up, but I'd like to add two things real quick, since we're all here</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l332" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560383"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560383">15:53</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#topic redis</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l333" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560384"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560384">15:53</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">anyone had a look at this more?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l334" class="new nick nick_sleary dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560385"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560385">15:54</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">I believe berick is using it in production now?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l335" class="new nick nick_berick"> <td class="time" id="i_560386"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560386">15:54</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">yes</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l336" class="cont nick nick_berick"> <td class="time" id="i_560387"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560387">15:54</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">in production app and sip servers</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l337" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560388"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560388">15:54</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">It's planned for OpenSRF 4.0. bug 2017941</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l338" class="new nick nick_pinesol"> <td class="time" id="i_560389"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560389">15:54</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Launchpad bug 2017941 in OpenSRF "Migrate from Ejabberd to Redis for OpenSRF Messaging" [Wishlist,Confirmed] <a href="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2017941" title="https://launchpad.net/bugs/2017941">https://launchpad.net/bugs/2017941</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l339" class="new nick nick_sandbergja dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560390"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560390">15:55</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">let's merge it!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l340" class="cont nick nick_sandbergja dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560391"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560391">15:55</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">at least that's my vote</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l341" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560392"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560392">15:55</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">we're running it on production as well</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l342" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560393"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560393">15:55</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I figured the only way we're going to know if it "works" is to do it for real</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l343" class="new nick nick_jeffdavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560394"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560394">15:56</a></td> <td style="color: #c40092" class="nick">jeffdavis</td> <td class="msg ">There was a question about Redis vs Valkey, wasn't there?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l344" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560395"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560395">15:56</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">with a finger on a button waiting for it to break, ready to swap containers back to ejabberd</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l345" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560396"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560396">15:56</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">jeffdavis: right, I think* we're still waiting on Valkey to get "ready" ?</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l346" class="new nick nick_berick dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560397"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560397">15:56</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">jeffdavis: that question is basically answered. redis ok for now, when valkey is ready,we'll migrate</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l347" class="new nick nick_jeffdavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560398"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560398">15:57</a></td> <td style="color: #c40092" class="nick">jeffdavis</td> <td class="msg ">ah ok</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l348" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560399"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560399">15:57</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I know i said quick, so I just wanted to bring it up "real quick" - I think I got what I wanted</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l349" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560400"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560400">15:57</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#topic passing the dev-meet-runner-torch</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l350" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560401"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560401">15:58</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">anyone want to take my place? I've been at this for more than a year now</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l351" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560402"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560402">15:59</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">ok then.... lol</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l352" class="new nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560403"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560403">15:59</a></td> <td style="color: #009034" class="nick">* csharp_</td> <td class="msg act ">turns up music to drown out the crickets</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l353" class="new nick nick_shulabramble dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560404"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560404">15:59</a></td> <td style="color: #5500c0" class="nick">shulabramble</td> <td class="msg ">I'd be willing to give it a swing.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l354" class="new nick nick_csharp_"> <td class="time" id="i_560405"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560405">15:59</a></td> <td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp_</td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l355" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560406"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560406">15:59</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l356" class="new nick nick_sandbergja"> <td class="time" id="i_560407"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560407">15:59</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l357" class="new nick nick_mmorgan dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560408"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560408">16:00</a></td> <td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l358" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560409"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560409">16:00</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l359" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560410"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560410">16:00</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l360" class="new nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560411"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560411">16:00</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l361" class="cont nick nick_redavis"> <td class="time" id="i_560412"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560412">16:00</a></td> <td style="color: #003c2b" class="nick">redavis</td> <td class="msg ">bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l362" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560413"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560413">16:00</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l363" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560414"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560414">16:00</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">thank you! I don't think anyone will fight you</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l364" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560415"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560415">16:00</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I'll talk to you offline if you would like to go over the details</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l365" class="new nick nick_jeffdavis dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560416"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560416">16:01</a></td> <td style="color: #c40092" class="nick">jeffdavis</td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble++ Bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l366" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560417"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560417">16:01</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#topic Announcements</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l367" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560418"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560418">16:01</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Next Meeting is October 8, 2024</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l368" class="new nick nick_shulabramble dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560419"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560419">16:01</a></td> <td style="color: #5500c0" class="nick">shulabramble</td> <td class="msg ">That would be lovely, thank you.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l369" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560420"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560420">16:01</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#info Hack-A-Way, November 12-14 in Boston, MA</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l370" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560421"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560421">16:01</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">#endmeeting</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l371" class="new nick nick_pinesol dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560422"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560422">16:01</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Meeting ended Tue Sep 10 16:01:24 2024 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot" title="http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot">http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot</a> . (v 0.1.4)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l372" class="cont nick nick_pinesol dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560423"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560423">16:01</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Minutes: <a href="http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-09-10-15.00.html" title="http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-09-10-15.00.html">http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-09-10-15.00.html</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l373" class="cont nick nick_pinesol dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560424"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560424">16:01</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Minutes (text): <a href="http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-09-10-15.00.txt" title="http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-09-10-15.00.txt">http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-09-10-15.00.txt</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l374" class="cont nick nick_pinesol dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560425"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560425">16:01</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">Log: <a href="http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-09-10-15.00.log.html" title="http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-09-10-15.00.log.html">http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2024/evergreen.2024-09-10-15.00.log.html</a></td> </tr> <tr id="id_l375" class="new nick nick_abneiman"> <td class="time" id="i_560426"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560426">16:02</a></td> <td style="color: #9fb313" class="nick">abneiman</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l376" class="new nick nick_shulabramble dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560427"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560427">16:02</a></td> <td style="color: #5500c0" class="nick">shulabramble</td> <td class="msg ">bmagic I think you have my email? That's usually the easiest and best way to contact me.</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l377" class="cont nick nick_shulabramble dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560428"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560428">16:02</a></td> <td style="color: #5500c0" class="nick">shulabramble</td> <td class="msg ">bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l378" class="new nick nick_sleary"> <td class="time" id="i_560429"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560429">16:02</a></td> <td style="color: #007f5b" class="nick">sleary</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l379" class="new nick nick_dluch dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560430"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560430">16:02</a></td> <td style="color: #007872" class="nick">dluch</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l380" class="new nick nick_mmorgan"> <td class="time" id="i_560431"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560431">16:02</a></td> <td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l381" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560432"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560432">16:03</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble: will do</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l382" class="new nick nick_Dyrcona"> <td class="time" id="i_560433"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560433">16:04</a></td> <td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l383" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560434"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560434">16:04</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">thanks everyone!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l384" class="new nick nick_sandbergja"> <td class="time" id="i_560435"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560435">16:05</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l385" class="cont nick nick_sandbergja"> <td class="time" id="i_560436"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560436">16:05</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">shulabramble++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l386" class="cont nick nick_sandbergja"> <td class="time" id="i_560437"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560437">16:05</a></td> <td style="color: #005616" class="nick">sandbergja</td> <td class="msg ">the_torch++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l387" class="new special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560438"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560438">16:09</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">mantis left #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l388" class="cont special dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560439"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560439">16:11</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">jvwoolf left #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l389" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560440"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560440">16:15</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">I guess we're skipping the dev meeting in November due to Hack-a-way</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l390" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560441"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560441">16:15</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">it would be the 12th</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l391" class="new nick nick_eeevil dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560442"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560442">16:28</a></td> <td style="color: #006b95" class="nick">eeevil</td> <td class="msg ">Bmagic: oh, we'll have it. THUNDERDOME STYLE! ;)</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l392" class="new nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560443"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560443">16:31</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">eeevil++</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l393" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic"> <td class="time" id="i_560444"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560444">16:31</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">Looking forward to watching from the side</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l394" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560445"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560445">16:31</a></td> <td style="color: #2c1600" class="nick">* Bmagic</td> <td class="msg act ">rips off his shirt</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l395" class="new nick nick_berick"> <td class="time" id="i_560446"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560446">16:33</a></td> <td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td> <td class="msg ">Two developers enter! Two develpers leave with an improved understanding of the requirements!</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l396" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560447"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560447">16:34</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">speaking of thunderdomes, my wife and I finished the latest Mad Max. Chris Hemsworth really impressed me. That film was excellent, for a 5th installment</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l397" class="new nick nick_berick"> <td class="time" id="i_560448"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560448">16:34</a></td> <td style="color: #3c002e" class="nick">* berick</td> <td class="msg act ">keeps meaing to watch that</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l398" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560449"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560449">16:34</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">you can barely recognize him. I think they gave him a nose prosthetic</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l399" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560450"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560450">16:36</a></td> <td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td> <td class="msg ">pretty sure there was a .5 second flash of Mel Gibson with his back to the camera leaning on his classic 1980's muscle car from the first movie</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l400" class="new special"> <td class="time" id="i_560451"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560451">17:00</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">jihpringle joined #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l401" class="cont special"> <td class="time" id="i_560452"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560452">17:10</a></td> <td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td> <td class="msg ">mmorgan left #evergreen</td> </tr> <tr id="id_l402" class="new nick nick_pinesol dark"> <td class="time" id="i_560453"><a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10#i_560453">17:13</a></td> <td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td> <td class="msg ">News from commits: LP<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2077354">#2077354</a>: eg-tree range selection and filtering <<a href="https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bfe22e92aff0aa0e723b83332defcdf3f2f51c2" title="https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bfe22e92aff0aa0e723b83332defcdf3f2f51c2">https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bfe22e92aff0aa0e723b83332defcdf3f2f51c2</a>></td> </tr> </table> </form> <span id="bottom" /> <p> <a href="/evergreen/2024-09-09" rel="prev"> ← Previous day</a> | <a href="/">Channels</a> | <a href="/evergreen/">#evergreen index</a> | <a href="/evergreen/today">Today</a> | <a href="/evergreen/2024-09-11" rel="next"> Next day →</a> | <a href="/evergreen/search">Search</a> | <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Airc.evergreen-ils.org+inurl%3Aevergreen">Google Search</a> | <a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10/text">Plain-Text</a> | <a href="/evergreen/2024-09-10/summary">summary</a> | <a href="https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=evergreen">Join Webchat</a> </p> <div id="footer"> <p>Powered by <a href="http://moritz.faui2k3.org/en/ilbot">ilbot</a>. <strong>Any questions? 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