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Dyrcona |
So, "cloud" services are great, until the provider has an outage. -- There's no such thing as "the cloud." There's only someone else's computer. |
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Bmagic |
Dyrcona++ |
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csharp_ |
Dyrcona: hey, you, get off of my cloud |
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csharp_ |
boomers may have ruined civilation, but they sure had some catchy tunes |
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csharp_ |
civilization also |
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redavis |
I think civilizations just come to ruin. And then new ones wander in. |
| 11:48 |
redavis |
And I turn 50 today, so now I know everything. Get off my lawn. |
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Dyrcona |
Heh. |
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berick |
redavis++ |
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Dyrcona |
redavis: Happy birthday! |
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mmorgan1 |
@dessert 41 redavis |
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* pinesol |
grabs some birthday cake with lots of candles for redavis |
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redavis |
Hah!!! (and thank you) |
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* redavis |
thinks about humming to "Burnin' down the house." |
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redavis |
I just pushed some commits to my own Evergreen repo and am now going to go die. Thanks all. It's been fun. |
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Dyrcona |
Ummm? |
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redavis |
I get dramatic, Dyrcona. This is documented. |
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* Dyrcona |
knows! redavis++ |
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* redavis |
laughs |
| 11:58 |
redavis |
Just muddling through adding back keyboard shortcut text...without really knowing how to actually do anything. sleary hmu if you have a moment, but it's no big deal if you don't. |
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Dyrcona |
Hm.. When I try to integrate GitHub with POEditor, I get the message that I need to upgrade the plan. I also see it mentioned somewhere else that only the owner can set this up. |
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redavis |
Hmm, we know we have the plan, but need to gmcharlt to set it up. |
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redavis |
might need |
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redavis |
or intermediate for someone else to set it up |
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Dyrcona |
yeah, I think the treasurer has to login to POEditor to start it at least. |
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redavis |
that might be Katie then... if there's something I can do to help move it along somehow, let me know. |
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csharp_ |
redavis: Happy Birthday and welcome to our fifties! |
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* csharp_ |
hit the big five-oh back in December |
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redavis |
csharp_++ #thanks! I have some great company. Also, it's weird. And congrats to you too. |
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Dyrcona |
Well, I have contacted the owner through the POEditor interface. |
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jihpringle |
Dyrcona I was cc'd on the email and it shows the To as Galen (Bmagic and Evergreen Project Treasurer were also cc'd) |
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Dyrcona |
OK. |
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Dyrcona |
jihpringle: I wonder if that means you could set it up, too? |
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jihpringle |
maybe? if I go to Integrations I see GitHub as an option but I didn't want to poke too far without knowing what I'm doing |
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Dyrcona |
That's all right. When I click on it, I'm told to upgrade. I wasn't asking you to set it up, just wondering if you're also an "owner." |
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jihpringle |
I think I'm a manager |
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jihpringle |
if I click on GitHub it also asks me to upgrade the plan |
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Dyrcona |
OK. I didn't get the email, and I'm an admin or whatever it's called. |
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Dyrcona |
I was told we have the github integration available. Maybe something still has to be done with the account. |
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Dyrcona |
My ultimate goal is to get the integration going and then add webhooks to Github to automatically update the strings in POEditor. I'm pretty sure that's possible. Then we can skip the import steps when building releases. |
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sleary |
Galen is on vacation for the next couple of weeks |
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sleary |
redavis: happy birthday! And I can chat after code review if you like! |
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csharp_ |
how conVEEENient |
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redavis |
sleary, I'm in strategic plan meeting right now, but will try to also hop into code review if there's time. |
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Dyrcona |
Bmagic: I don't know what is converting '2024-02-31' into '2024-03-02', but every layer that I put '2024-02-31' into tells me it is not a valid date. |
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Bmagic |
interesting |
| 15:01 |
Bmagic |
it must be adding seconds since epoch and then converting to date |
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Bmagic |
like taking the year by itself, then adding 2 months, then adding 31 days |
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Bmagic |
something like this (but not this) select to_date('2024','YYYY') + interval '1 months' + interval '31 days' |
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csharp_ |
has anyone done work to add "rel=no-follow" or whatever it is that crawlers are supposed to respond to to prevent OPAC searches going nuts? |
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Dyrcona |
csharp_: CW MARS had some rel=nofollow links, but it wasn't very systematic. |
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Dyrcona |
Bmagic: That is what's going on somewhere. There's code like that several places in the Perl. |
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Dyrcona |
csharp_: We added them routinely on links that opened a new window or tab. maybe somewhere else, too. |
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Dyrcona |
looks like mostly in opac extras and record summary. |
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Dyrcona |
Can't say how much it helped. |
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jeffdavis |
csharp_: mylist links appear to have rel=nofollow already in most places, and that doesn't seem to stop crawlers any more than our robots.txt does :( |
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jeffdavis |
I'd be very happy if it worked though, we do a whole lot of IP-based blocking of webcrawlers these days |
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JBoyer |
Yeah, if they don't read robots.txt they're not going to pay attention to rel="no-follow". I've added a fistful of /8's to either nginx or iptables to tell them to get lost. |
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csharp_ |
okay, well, misery loves company |
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csharp_ |
we've blocked hundreds of Chinese/Singaporean ranges via iptables over the last few weeks |
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csharp_ |
Dyrcona++ jeffdavis++ JBoyer++ |
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Dyrcona |
csharp_: There's a site where you can get data files with all of the know IP ranges by country. |
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csharp_ |
yes, we've been looking into that |
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csharp_ |
even talked to ITS about them doing it via the Palo Alto |
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csharp_ |
I hate sledgehammer approaches, but this is miserable |
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Dyrcona |
www.nirsoft.net |
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Dyrcona |
Sometimes, you have to. You really want have enough legitimate traffic from China for it to matter. |
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csharp_ |
right, we've come to that conclusion too |
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sandbergja |
csharp_: in case it is helpful, here's a list of some IP ranges that we're blocking at the Palo Alto level -- a lot of them are from tencent data centers that were hitting us hard a few months ago. Our palo alto firewall regularly refreshes itself by reading a text file that ansible generates from this list. |
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