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00:11 abneiman release notes here (in main, not backported): https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=​commit;h=713820677305189a00151229f424841e01c81dea
00:37 pinesol News from commits: Docs: Release notes for 3.11.5 and 3.12.3 <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=713820​677305189a00151229f424841e01c81dea>
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08:00 csharp__ @eightball is LP down?
08:00 pinesol csharp__: Maybe...
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08:39 Rogan loading for me right now but no idea about earlier
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09:25 csharp__ redis--
09:25 csharp__ huh - why do I have an extra tail?
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10:04 Rogan there's an evolution joke to make there but my pollen filled head can't think of it
10:25 Dyrcona I'm getting the "something went wrong" page from Launchpad today. They must not have patched xz-utils.... :)
10:26 csharp_ Rogan: prehensile something something
10:26 * Dyrcona was gonna make a crack like "Appendix to the appendix"
10:27 Dyrcona "Technically, this is a 503 error and has been caused by our database having temporary operational issues."
10:27 csharp_ the xz thing feels like an espionage op
10:28 Dyrcona I'm sure it was have you read this: https://boehs.org/node/everythi​ng-i-know-about-the-xz-backdoor
10:28 csharp_ per https://ubuntu.social/@launchpadstatus, LP was having hardware trouble last week or so
10:28 Dyrcona csharp_++
10:28 Dyrcona I was kidding about the xz-utils. Ubuntu wasn't affected.
10:29 csharp_ right
10:30 csharp_ I did happen to upgrade to Fedora 40 over the weekend :-)
10:30 csharp_ (on my personal machine)
10:31 Dyrcona I apparently had the bad code on my personal laptop for a couple of days before Arch patched it.
10:31 Bmagic Fedora 40! Did it ship with Plasma 6?
10:32 csharp_ Bmagic: I use GNOME, so I don't know
10:32 Bmagic :) gotcha
10:32 Dyrcona Thom Holwerda's editorial is also worth reading for people who don't maintain OSS code: https://www.osnews.com/story/139070/ope​n-source-is-about-more-than-just-code/
10:32 csharp_ I keep meaning to try and use KDE again, but I'm old and feeble now and don't like change
10:32 * csharp_ shakes cane
10:32 Bmagic reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=YVI6SCtVu4c&amp;t=398s
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10:33 Bmagic I like how she pronounces gnome: guh-nome
10:33 Dyrcona csharp_++ I keep KDE on one laptop that I pull it out and use for a few hours every few weeks, just to run updates. I keep it around as a spare mostly.
10:35 Dyrcona Bmagic: I think that's how it is supposed be pronounced: guh-nome.... like guh-nu....
10:36 * berick was about to say
10:36 Bmagic even better
10:36 csharp_ in practice I usually say "nome" because I don't want to have to explain all the things when talking to people unfamiliar with the history (sorry, rms)
10:37 csharp_ "ACK-tually, it's GNU/Linux because Linux is just the kernel..." - I know, I know
10:37 Dyrcona Yeah, what csharp_ just said, same gnu, I usually say 'nu.' I also don't usually say "'nu/linux" either.
10:37 Dyrcona Ha!
10:38 csharp_ great minds
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12:53 adam_reid hey all! if I make a bulk change to asset.copy status value in the database of evergreen are there any scripts I should run to update the search in the OPAC, or will build in triggers take care of any necessary updates?
13:05 Dyrcona adam_reid: Triggers should take care of everything if all you do is update the copy.status.
13:05 adam_reid yep, that was the only column, thanks as always Dyrcona!
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15:00 csharp_ Bmagic: not a browser, but you might want to check out https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term on your Fedora box
15:09 pinesol News from commits: LP1086550 Not clear to patron how to deselect a facet <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae4ac1​d2fc10a1cbfdd4a3453731ac11d4dc451f>
15:23 Bmagic csharp_++ # I've not installed that on my terminal, but I'm aware of it! It's soooo friggin cool
15:39 pinesol News from commits: LP1821094: Add an AngularJS module that runs promises in batches <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4c8c2​9a24556d81dade49d797cfb2bbdbb1db90>
15:39 pinesol News from commits: LP1821094: Improve item status reload performance <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c1ea5d​cb50ce27070958962822f8df3e5adc5c9f>
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16:06 jmurray-isl Anyone know of something beyond max_stanza_size that would cause ejabberd to drop its connection?  Despite having a max_stanza_size of 20000000 on our utility server, we had an issue today where a message of 12500000 continually broke ejabberd.
16:08 csharp_ jmurray-isl: we're struggling with the same problem
16:10 csharp_ jmurray-isl: if you limit max_stanza_size to something reasonable, it will kill that drone - I've found that too-high (or no) max_stanza_size kills the router completely
16:10 jmurray-isl Good to know
16:10 csharp_ OpenSRF knows it's coming too - the WARN logs will say something like "large message" (the threshold for which is set in opensrf.xml, I think)
16:11 jmurray-isl Yep. That's how I confirmed the issue.
16:11 csharp_ I would love if OpenSRF would just, you know, not just commit suicide and use the large message detection to not try and deliver it
16:12 csharp_ jmurray-isl: the other thing I'm planning to look at this week is trying to prevent A/T from creating the massive messages in the first place
16:12 jmurray-isl That would be nice...
16:13 csharp_ I assume it's pulling fully-fleshed circ and bib data and trying to gulp it all down at once
16:14 jmurray-isl We build XML templates that can be pretty large for Print Templates (which is what this was), so we might need the option to send large messages.
16:14 csharp_ ah
16:14 jmurray-isl We generate daily PDFs using fop from the XML templates.
16:15 csharp_ in our case it's 3-day reminder notices - we have a 50-item circ limit so gathering all those circs is probably what's killing us
16:15 csharp_ (even though the template for reminders only displays the first 10 or so)
16:24 Bmagic abneiman: we good for building?
16:28 abneiman Bmagic: AFAIK, yes; though anything merged after last night will need an amended release note
16:28 Bmagic oh right, we just merged three things onto main
16:28 abneiman I'm not available this afternoon unfortunately though I can still do LP updates & announcements tomorrow or Weds
16:29 abneiman I'll be on the road though so IRC will be hit or miss, if you really need to get my attention email is best
16:30 Bmagic git log
16:30 Bmagic wrong window :)
16:45 sandbergja Bmagic: if you want, I can backport the release notes and add entries for the newly committed bits
16:45 Bmagic sandbergja++ # yes please
16:45 Bmagic I was just scratching my head over that
16:53 sandbergja Bmagic: pushed
16:54 Bmagic ok then! I'll build 3.11.5
16:54 sandbergja woohoo!
16:54 sandbergja And I will start building 3.12.3 in a bit
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17:09 pinesol News from commits: Additional entry for release notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=898991​9f9821826870d11c7c1835b7fbb2c7fd96>
17:20 sandbergja I upgraded to podman 5, and that apparently deleted the vm that all the podman containers run on.  So, rebuilding my container image.  To be continued...
17:46 sandbergja Bmagic++ # the README on https://github.com/mcoia/eg-docker has the answers for everything
17:52 Bmagic sandbergja++
19:42 sandbergja Tarball and other build artifacts for 3.12.3 at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eQ​A1eY9HJCXt_0GLARR6Anx5qlcMaSFD?usp=sharing
19:43 sandbergja I'm running the tests now, pgtap looks happy!
19:49 sandbergja so do c tests, perl live, perl unit, angularjs unit, angular unit, and opac tests
19:49 sandbergja So, I think 3.12.3 is built and tested
20:10 pinesol News from commits: Forward-port 3.12.2-3.12.3 upgrade script <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=a67de6​7b5d5981e74d076dd8f5e1987f39c1079f>
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21:05 Bmagic sandbergja++ # I downloaded your tarball and accomanied files and posted them onto the webserver's hard drive. Though, not linked onto the downloads page. abneiman was signed up to do that portion
21:15 Bmagic Mine are there too: in other words, 3.11.5 and 3.12.3 are done and staged onto the web server
21:24 Bmagic I think I will need a hand pushing to the non-working Evergreen repo. I attempted to push a new tags branch but w as met with some erro messages. I updated my push remote url but still didn't overcome. So, I've pushed my tags branch to the working repo: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=wo​rking/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=re​fs/heads/user/blake/tags/rel_3_11_5

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