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08:45 csharp_ FYI, Syndetics let their SSL cert expire, so cover (jacket) images are not loading
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09:58 sandbergja installing and running automated tests on the 3.11.4 tarball candidate
09:58 redavis ++
10:06 Bmagic Does Evergreen's OPAC refresh back to the home page when no one is logged in and it's not currently on the home page after a certain amount of time?
10:12 redavis There is an OPAC inactivity logout setting...
10:12 redavis Is that what you're talking about?
10:13 redavis It's in library settings.
10:14 sandbergja Bmagic: there's this doodad: https://github.com/evergreen-library-syst​em/Evergreen/blob/3517abe4acaa0b4752ce442​abd1965c647c7a4a0/Open-ILS/src/templates-​bootstrap/opac/parts/base_simple.tt2#L9
10:14 sandbergja I wonder if the "ctx.authtime" in that line comes from the library setting that redavis mentioned
10:16 sandbergja There is also a related accessibility bug 1894900
10:16 pinesol Launchpad bug 1894900 in Evergreen "OPAC redirects users without warning or opportunity to cancel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1894900
10:21 Bmagic It's when no one is logged in that I'm wondering about
10:22 Bmagic patron sits at a computer, does a couple of searches and leaves. And the OPAC is showing their search results
10:27 csharp_ Bmagic: yes, it should load the home screen after the configured amount of time
10:27 jeff nothing stock that I'm aware of or could find in a few minutes of looking. why do you ask?
10:27 redavis Ahh...I don't know about that.
10:27 redavis That's a very good point though.
10:28 jeff csharp_: is that a local customization, or stock? do you happen to know where it appears in code/templates?
10:28 Bmagic csharp_: great! I must not know where the setting is then. Which one?
10:29 jeff sandbergja: yes, ctx.authtime is set to the auth session's "authtime" value, which is driven by last activity and the setting of OPAC Inactivity Timeout (in seconds) (auth.opac_timeout), which is used for logins of type "opac".
10:30 Bmagic jeff: in other words: you have to be logged in for the OPAC to return to the home page?
10:30 csharp_ ohhhh - when no one is logged in
10:30 jeff Bmagic: correct
10:30 csharp_ sorry - must've glossed over that :-/
10:31 sandbergja ahh, it just now dawned on me that authtime == they are logged in
10:31 jeff (barring local customizations or me missing something, both of which are possible)
10:31 csharp_ yeah, we don't have that - good wishlist bug?
10:31 Bmagic ok, just making sure it's not a feature today. We might submit a wishlist bug
10:31 csharp_ jinx!
10:32 jeff keep the above referenced bug 1894900 in mind if you do, it should probably at least be acknowledged in the new wishlist bug, if not accounted for in any proposed branch. :-)
10:32 pinesol Launchpad bug 1894900 in Evergreen "OPAC redirects users without warning or opportunity to cancel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1894900
10:32 csharp_ potential title: "Make Evergreen care about strangers"
10:32 jeff "care about strangers"?
10:32 csharp_ non-logged in people
10:32 redavis people not logged in.
10:32 Bmagic YAOUS gains +1 to strength. You may now attack the troll
10:33 jeff it was less the strangers bit, more the "care about" bit that I wasn't following. :-)
10:33 csharp_ @dnd
10:33 pinesol csharp_: strength:11 dexterity:15 constitution:12 intelligence:8 wisdom:15 charisma:13
10:33 csharp_ jeff: "care about" = "care about their privacy"
10:35 sandbergja Bmagic: unrelated question about bug 2054349.  It looks straightforward enough.  Just for my own learning, were you seeing any particular impacts from those extra config.org_unit_setting_type_log rows, or is it just cleanup of now-useless rows?
10:35 pinesol Launchpad bug 2054349 in Evergreen "Evergreen 3.11.1-3.12.0 upgrade script issue with 1395 portion" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2054349
10:35 jeff Does redirecting to the homepage improve privacy in some way? Maybe in a context where the browser is in some kiosk mode where navigation and history are blocked? We typically use the features of whatever kiosk software to refresh/reset in those cases, so I hadn't thought about it much before now.
10:36 Bmagic sandbergja: It bombs the upgrade script if you have any related rows in the log tables
10:37 sandbergja gotcha, thanks!
10:44 * Dyrcona catches up on scroll back.
10:45 Dyrcona We had a similar conversation in a meeting this morning about Aspen.
10:48 Dyrcona csharp_: "Do you only care about the bleeding crowd?"
10:48 Dyrcona Your suggested bug title pushed that song on top of my mental stack.
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10:54 Dyrcona Huh. I never knew that Three Dog Night covered that one, too.
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10:58 csharp_ Dyrcona++
11:02 jeff I know that there were some interesting "covers" that existed only in poorly-researched but widely-applied metadata of the early MP3 days. I wonder if any of those ever became actual covers (ignoring for the moment any questions of causality).
11:02 abneiman good morning channel, we are all clear to resume commits and stand by for 3.11.4 / 3.12.2 annoucements!
11:03 abneiman sandbergja++ sleary++ redavis++
11:03 jeff my favorite example being "tainted love" by "the clash" (an error in metadata, never happened to the best of my knowledge)
11:03 jeff abneiman++ sandbergja++ sleary++ redavis++
11:03 Bmagic abneiman++ sandbergja++ sleary++ redavis++
11:04 redavis Imma get an announcement out as soon as my current meeting is over and then will get into LP and update.
11:04 redavis abneiman++ sandbergja++ sleary++
11:04 Dyrcona abneiman++ sandbergja++ sleary++ redavis++
11:05 sleary_ sandbergja++ # for doing the heavy lifting and spotting my file path error on the release notes!
11:06 * Dyrcona would actually like to hear Tainted Love performed by The Clash.
11:06 Bmagic Marilyn Manson actually has a good rendition of it
11:06 mmorgan abneiman++ sandbergja++ sleary++ redavis++
11:09 csharp_ jeff: your example reminded me of this: https://i.etsystatic.com/27669872/r/il/829fc9​/3260060337/il_fullxfull.3260060337_ojdy.jpg
11:10 csharp_ "how to trigger 3 fanbases with one t-shirt"
11:10 Bmagic lol!
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11:10 jeff nice. have you seen "oh no, I ironed my joy division shirt"?
11:11 csharp_ jeff: ha!  no I hadn't but I just searched it up
11:12 kmlussier abneiman++ sandbergja++ sleary++ redavis++
11:13 csharp_ I can't find it with cursory searching, but I saw a poster or tshirt in Athens, GA that said "MOBY" and was a picture of Michael Stipe
11:15 sleary_ >.<
11:15 redavis lol, sharp_ that's pretty awesome.
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12:18 Dyrcona Culture jamming.
12:24 Dyrcona And, one of our members is buying Lps again.
12:25 * Dyrcona remembers checking Lps out of the public library when still in grade school.
12:25 Dyrcona Everything old is new again. (Wish that applied to me.)
12:39 csharp_ @band add Mayberry Libarry
12:39 pinesol csharp_: Band 'Mayberry Libarry' added to list
12:40 csharp_ Dyrcona: we had LPs and old-school filmstrips actively circulating in several of our libraries when I first started in 2008
12:41 Dyrcona Yeah. People still have the technology. Lps have made a resurgence in the past decade or so.
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12:59 sandbergja I need to not unquestioningly copy/paste commit messages from the release docs, apparently: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=710e53​1917fd4962db75990471ab15f031c23c22
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13:38 pinesol News from commits: Docs: correction to 3.11.4 release notes <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca30ae​1062c6bec99f14e20dd531bdb2fcc2fb7d>
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13:59 jeffdavis A few times recently I've seen the open-ils.courses listener die with a "Use of freed value in iteration" error - not sure of the precise cause yet.
14:01 jeffdavis bug 1953044
14:01 pinesol Launchpad bug 1953044 in OpenSRF "Perl services can crash with a "Use of freed value in iteration" error" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1953044
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14:09 jeffdavis also belated thanks to the folks who got the point releases out!
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17:42 Bmagic mmorgan++ # git merging
18:09 pinesol News from commits: LP2054349 3.11.1-3.12.0 upgrade script 1395 portion <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6eacb​f7b10d84673555f391d3f9df5df5af6476>

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