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09:00 pinesol News from commits: LP 2017941: Followup to fix buster builds <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=db1264​dedb16fe505ebd0b395a2ef54b76d89875>
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10:00 pinesol News from commits: LP#1890822: (follow-up) update comments and documentation <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=11278a​9a72b8c0de9f894b7ba4a87c150fb37648>
10:00 pinesol News from commits: LP1890822: move penalty check back to run_indb_circ_test <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b243d​4d6d09e6c87fa97c1b4f6312ed02e7faae>
10:00 pinesol News from commits: LP1890822: incorporate feedback from review <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d03f64​f9abfb37714b029cce821cfd15f8fa56ec>
10:00 pinesol News from commits: LP1890822: Don't checkout in cases where a patron is eligible for a penalty, but... <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7f7d8​2fca9215dcfa84e4ef5bbfac9bef03624c>
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10:55 sandbergja gmcharlt++
10:55 sandbergja thanks for your help and research on bug 1890822
10:55 pinesol Launchpad bug 1890822 in Evergreen 3.11 "PATRON_EXCEEDS_OVERDUE_COUNT threshold still allows one checkout" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890822
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11:10 berick kmlussier++ # facilitatin'
11:41 abneiman kmlussier++ # Evergreen TNG
11:47 kmlussier abneiman++
11:47 kmlussier You should trademark that.
11:49 kmlussier We could hold a series of discussions around the TNG theme. Another one could be, is IRC the best method of communication for the next generation of Evergreen contributors?
11:50 kmlussier FWIW, I am a big fan of IRC, but I also acknowledge that I am not the target audience of these questions.
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13:04 sandbergja Speaking of releases -- we're one week out from the next set of point releases.  Please sign up if you can help out: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gZayHfF​7qK0zwLMEAXt-PbKBMiAM_F6EZguqzIYceBY/edit#gid=0
13:05 sandbergja Come one and all to try out the release process, so that you have something to complain about in kmlussier's release discussion :-D
13:06 sandbergja kmlussier++, by the way.  Looking forward to that discussion.
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13:12 kmlussier sandbergja++
13:18 mantis For those that enabled 'allow renewals to cover lost time' (introduced in 3.10), how did that go with your libraries?  Was there confusion on how the feature worked?  How did you document it?
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13:26 Rogan mantis I haven't used it yet but was just looking at that as an option for a library
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13:28 abneiman kmlussier: I would not miss IRC, not least of which because I cannot for whatever reason get Quassel & Windows to agree to give me notifications. But many other reasons as well.
13:29 Rogan I'm fine with IRC but I feel that IRC really limits participation so I'd be fine with a next gen option
13:29 abneiman sandbergja++ # wranglin'
13:30 kmlussier abneiman: I would miss the desserts, which is not a valid concern.
13:30 abneiman could we not migrate those to a Slack environment?
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13:32 Rogan you can make slack bots so I don't see why not
13:33 dguarrac mantis: Our library directors liked the idea. We're combining setting up the early renewals with moving around autorenewals, too. I threw together a quick chart to help explain the whole thing to our directors: https://docs.owwl.org/pub/Members/Meetings/E​vergreenAdvisoryCommitteeMeeting20231017/Ear​ly%20renewal%20due%20date%20extensions.pdf
13:38 dguarrac We are in the process of implementing these changes, but we have a little work on circ policies to do first. We want to implement it so that patrons can use a renewal extension up to three days before the due date, but the minimum duration interval counts forwards from the checkout date instead of backwards from the due date, so it's tough to implement for some of our libraries with circ policies that use different short / long loan durations (bug
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