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Dyrcona |
ugh.. 3.6GB of logs in 9 hours. I don't feel like wading through that. |
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| 11:16 |
Rogan |
I do wonder how many actual hours it would take to read that many logs in detail would take versus grepping / analysis tools. I think I'd rather re-read Lord of the Rings for the 15th time (or however many times I've read it). |
| 11:17 |
Dyrcona |
I would rather reread The Lord of the Rings. In the end, I ignored the logs, since I pretty much only care about the state action_trigger.event entries. |
| 11:20 |
jeffdavis |
grepping logfiles vs reading LOTR by way of the index |
| 11:20 |
berick |
eh |
| 11:21 |
berick |
heh |
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| 11:29 |
mmorgan |
@decide grep log files or read LOTR |
| 11:29 |
pinesol |
mmorgan: go with read LOTR |
| 11:29 |
Bmagic |
It's a dangerous business, Rogan, going out your door and reading logs. You read line one of the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to. |
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| 11:31 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic++ |
| 11:31 |
mmorgan |
Bmagic++ |
| 11:32 |
Bmagic |
It's funny you all mention LOTR, I'm currently reading it (again)! |
| 11:34 |
Bmagic |
I'm constantly surprised about stuff that I don't remember. Like farmer Maggot has a scene with the hobbits as they are first leaving the Shire. And there's another scene with another farmer "Fatty" a day later. The movie script writter felt that those weren't worthy of screentime I guess |
| 11:35 |
kmlussier |
Bmagic: That fits with our 2024 statewide reading challenge. The challenge for January is to re-read something you've read before. |
| 11:36 |
* kmlussier |
is hesitant to confess in this space she has never read any Tolkien. |
| 11:37 |
Bmagic |
oh! haha! I saw it at a book shop a couple months ago. The 50th year anniversary edition with a new forward and preface. Some very interesting things about the history of each publishing of the original. So many typo's and errors from the typesetters in Britain, and again a different set of errors introduced by the USA printers. And the 30 year fallout to correct those things. Plus issues with the original manuscript |
| 11:38 |
Bmagic |
The dumb dumbs in the USA, for example, thought that the American readers would want "Elves" to be spelled "elfs" |
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* Dyrcona |
didn't know there was a reading challenge. |
| 11:42 |
Dyrcona |
https://www.massbook.org/readingchallenge That looks almost like my normal reading cycle. :) |
| 11:42 |
Bmagic |
no way am I finishing LOTR in one month. Maybe in a year! |
| 11:43 |
Bmagic |
If it's not program code, it's gonna be awhile :) |
| 11:43 |
Dyrcona |
Heh. |
| 11:44 |
Dyrcona |
my $potagonist = new Hobbit("Frodo", "Baggins"); |
| 11:44 |
Bmagic |
lol |
| 11:44 |
Dyrcona |
modulo typos. |
| 11:44 |
Bmagic |
Dyrcona++ |
| 11:45 |
Bmagic |
That reminds me, there is* a gihub project out there somewhere that turns stuff into code syntax... I just can't remember what it was called or even what the point was |
| 11:45 |
Dyrcona |
The point is humor. |
| 11:45 |
Bmagic |
well, yeah! But it was also functional |
| 11:47 |
Dyrcona |
Somewhere I have a disc with code to turn plain English text into "Pig Latin." A friend wrote it years ago. |
| 11:48 |
Bmagic |
./big_latin < lotr.txt > lotr_pig_latin.txt |
| 11:48 |
Bmagic |
man, I'm not batting very well with this keyboard today |
| 11:49 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 11:49 |
Dyrcona |
I can blame it on switching from QWERTY to AZERTY from time to time. :) |
| 11:50 |
Dyrcona |
<narrator>But, he really couldn't blame it on that.</narrator> |
| 11:50 |
Bmagic |
You got my imaginiation flowing. I'm thinking Wonder years and Fred Savage now |
| 11:53 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 11:54 |
Dyrcona |
I haven't used AZERTY in over 20 years. I used to type in French a lot. I could switch pretty easily after a while. |
| 11:55 |
* Dyrcona |
wonders if the ADB to USB adapter would work with a PC running Linux, but I suspect the keys won't map correctly. |
| 12:00 |
mantis1 |
Remember T9 typing? |
| 12:00 |
mantis1 |
I think that's what the keypad version was |
| 12:00 |
mantis1 |
T8 or T9 |
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Bmagic |
mantis1: I'm not familiar. I've heard of "ten key", but don't personally use it. Mostly because of numlock. It's annoying when you start to use it and it doesn't come out like you expect. The top row numbers on the keyboard always (mostly) type a number |
| 12:09 |
mantis1 |
Bmagic: I like to put that kind of typing under the wing of my mudane talents |
| 12:09 |
Bmagic |
:) |
| 12:10 |
Dyrcona |
mantis1: Is that one of those "chording" keyboards? |
| 12:11 |
mantis1 |
Dyrcona: lol I think so but I never heard them referred to as that |
| 12:11 |
mantis1 |
that's funny |
| 12:11 |
Dyrcona |
OIC... It's not. :) |
| 12:12 |
Dyrcona |
There are keyboards with fewer keys and you press them in different combinations to get different keys from a standard keyboard. It's supposed to be be faster and more comfortable. I've never used one. |
| 12:13 |
Dyrcona |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T9_(predictive_text) |
| 12:13 |
Dyrcona |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorded_keyboard |
| 12:13 |
mantis1 |
Dyrcona: I was way off |
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csharp_ |
as my daughter used to say as a toddler, "no fanks" |
| 12:34 |
mmorgan |
:) |
| 12:34 |
csharp_ |
I'll take my good ol' QWERTY and I'll like it! |
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jonadab |
My main objection to QWERTY is that the thumbs are underutilized. I'd like to see a shift key and a ctrl key, positioned below the space bar where they can be easily hit by the thumbs, avoiding the need to hyperextend the pinkies so frequently. |
| 12:44 |
berick |
csharp_: was your daughter Michael Caine? |
| 12:45 |
Dyrcona |
berick: Ha! |
| 12:45 |
Dyrcona |
Most keyboards layouts are designed to slow you down. |
| 12:46 |
Dyrcona |
From the days of mechanical typewriters. |
| 12:51 |
Dyrcona |
It is on the calendar to do monthly releases today, but I suppose no one feels up to it? |
| 12:52 |
* Dyrcona |
is still getting over something... |
| 12:53 |
Dyrcona |
I think we need to have a larger conversation about releases in general, not just monthly releases. |
| 12:58 |
sandbergja |
I could build a point release this afternoon (Pacific time) |
| 13:00 |
Dyrcona |
I would but I can't do the translations. |
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sandbergja |
I'm happy to upload any translation files that anybody emails me |
| 13:21 |
Dyrcona |
Well, I'm not going to be able to work on releases today. |
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| 14:50 |
Bmagic |
anyone had an isue with transit slips for items going to fill a patron hold, using the standard transit slip instead of the hold transit slip? I just figured out that it has something to do with the staff permissions. If I'm logged in as the staff account, Evergreen chooses the standard transit slip. If I'm logged in as the admin account, it chooses the hold transit slip and the patron data is available for me to put into the slip |
| 14:50 |
mantis1 |
Bmagic: that came up a couple times before |
| 14:51 |
Bmagic |
I would imagine this is by design, but my querstion is: which permission(s) do I need to give the staff account, such that Evergreen will choose the hold transit slip template? |
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mmorgan |
Bmagic: Interesting. Our transit and hold transit slips are configured to be identical, we never want to include patron info on a transit slip. I'm surprised that a permission would cause the different slip to be printed. I would have suspected that maybe the hold was cancelled or retargeted. |
| 14:58 |
Bmagic |
It almost has* to be permission related. I checked in an item with the staff account verrsus the admin account. All other variable are the same, same workstation, same browser, same registered workstation. In the former case, it used the transit slip template, and in the ladder case, it used the (correct) holds transit slip template. I assume it's permission to read the remote patron details (that the nuts and bolts would need in order |
| 14:58 |
Bmagic |
to generate the holds transit slip) |
| 15:10 |
mmorgan |
Bmagic: Same item? |
| 15:13 |
Bmagic |
yep |
| 15:42 |
mmorgan |
Bmagic: Maybe these perms for au in the idl? VIEW_USER user_request.view |
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dluch |
Good call, mmorgan, thanks! |
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Bmagic |
mmorgan++ #trying it now |
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