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| 08:42 |
kmlussier |
Good morning #evergreen! Happy pre-hack-a-way-week Friday! |
| 08:42 |
kmlussier |
How many hyphens can a person put into one word? |
| 08:43 |
kmlussier |
@coffee [someone] |
| 08:43 |
* pinesol |
brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Sidamo Guji, and sends it sliding down the bar to eeevil |
| 08:43 |
kmlussier |
@tea [someone] |
| 08:43 |
* pinesol |
brews and pours a pot of Golden Orchid, and sends it sliding down the bar to eby (http://ratetea.com/tea/whispering-pines/golden-orchid/7244/) |
| 08:44 |
kmlussier |
That's two days in a row that eby has gotten tea. |
| 08:46 |
jeff |
on Fridays, there is music in the library. (over the PA, before we open) |
| 08:46 |
jeff |
but @coffee is also needed |
| 08:47 |
jeff |
@coffee [someone] |
| 08:47 |
* pinesol |
brews and pours a cup of Panama Esmeralda Especial, and sends it sliding down the bar to jweston |
| 08:47 |
Rogan |
morning Evergreeners |
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kmlussier |
One might argue that dessert is appropriate for a Friday morning. |
| 08:48 |
kmlussier |
@dessert [someone] |
| 08:48 |
* pinesol |
grabs some chocolate croissants for eglogbot |
| 08:48 |
mantis1 |
here here |
| 08:48 |
mantis1 |
@dessert kmlussier |
| 08:48 |
kmlussier |
Bots can't eat dessert. |
| 08:48 |
* pinesol |
grabs some Cookies and Cream Ice Cream for kmlussier |
| 08:48 |
mantis1 |
lol snacks the logbot |
| 08:48 |
mantis1 |
fantastic |
| 08:48 |
kmlussier |
mantis1: Thank you! My IRC life is so much more interesting than my normal life, where I'm not eating dessert at any time of day. |
| 08:49 |
mantis1 |
we can always use our imaginationnnn~ |
| 08:49 |
kmlussier |
Rogan: Good morning! Feeling better? |
| 08:50 |
Rogan |
kmlussier: yep. I took some meds and slept deep and long. |
| 08:50 |
kmlussier |
Rogan: Glad to hear it! |
| 08:51 |
Rogan |
so I'm here with tea and hand and just had a good thought how to handle an issue I'm tackling so it is a good morning |
| 08:51 |
Rogan |
s/and hand/in hand/ |
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| 08:53 |
kmlussier |
jeff: Is your Friday music any good? |
| 09:01 |
mantis1 |
This season has been terrible |
| 09:02 |
mantis1 |
I hope you'll be ok for Hackaway! |
| 09:06 |
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| 09:08 |
Dyrcona |
berick: I did `cargo build --release --package evergreen` then copied eg-marc-export to /openils/bin/. I missed the password on of the two lines for eg-marc-export in my script, so I don't know if it is faster, but the binary is certainly smaller without the debugging symbols, etc. |
| 09:14 |
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| 09:18 |
Dyrcona |
FWIW, I haven't used --release on my test system. I did that for the production server. |
| 09:40 |
csharp_ |
one of the Supy/Limnoria bots in another IRC channel I was in had a @botsnack command and the bot would reply "YUM!" |
| 09:41 |
csharp_ |
actually in the Ubuntu channel, it would say "YUM!.. I mean, er, APT!" |
| 09:41 |
bshum |
Put that on the wishlist for bot development tasks... got it :) |
| 09:41 |
csharp_ |
bshum++ |
| 09:42 |
csharp_ |
(DNF, the replacement for YUM, doesn't really work with that pun scheme) |
| 09:43 |
csharp_ |
terranm++ # core committer! |
| 09:44 |
kmlussier |
Wait, what? Did I miss an announcement? |
| 09:44 |
Dyrcona |
DNF is motor sports speak for Did Not Finish. |
| 09:44 |
csharp_ |
uh... oops, maybe I wasn't supposed to say anything, but yeah, kmlussier, terranm is now ONE OF US |
| 09:44 |
terranm |
Thanks, I'll try really hard not to make any of you regret that decision :) |
| 09:45 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: I don't know if it has been announced, but it was voted this week. AFAIK, someone (gmcharlt or I) still has to set it up in git. |
| 09:45 |
bshum |
terranm++ # huzzah! |
| 09:45 |
Dyrcona |
terranm++ |
| 09:45 |
kmlussier |
terranm++ # Well deserved! |
| 09:46 |
csharp_ |
Dyrcona: Fedora picked "dnf" because it was a meaningless and not a common typing mistake with the intention that it would eventually become the "yum" command |
| 09:46 |
csharp_ |
but like all things like that, dnf is now the way people generally use it |
| 09:46 |
Dyrcona |
OK. I like pacman... :) |
| 09:46 |
csharp_ |
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 5 Sep 20 20:00 /usr/bin/yum -> dnf-3 |
| 09:46 |
csharp_ |
so yum *is* now dnf |
| 09:47 |
csharp_ |
but for a while, you'd get a warning that yum was deprecated |
| 09:47 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, I haven't used Fedora in a decade or more. |
| 09:47 |
csharp_ |
it has been my distro of choice for about that long |
| 09:48 |
csharp_ |
I used to bounce between Fedora and Ubuntu |
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| 09:52 |
bshum |
Took me awhile to get used to "zypper" for SUSE stuff I do now. |
| 09:52 |
bshum |
I miss apt :( |
| 09:55 |
bshum |
It's okay though, I get to play with it in my spare time |
| 09:55 |
bshum |
(whatever that is) |
| 10:01 |
csharp_ |
yeah, SUSE is like, huge, in Europe, but I've only ever used it in virtualbox for 15 minutes or so |
| 10:03 |
berick |
i started w/ SUSE. don't remember why. |
| 10:06 |
berick |
and happy bday Tom Petty |
| 10:08 |
* csharp_ |
lifts a glass |
| 10:08 |
csharp_ |
berick: what are we doing for your birthday next week? |
| 10:09 |
berick |
merging redis? |
| 10:09 |
csharp_ |
YES |
| 10:10 |
csharp_ |
@dessert redis |
| 10:10 |
* pinesol |
grabs some Mint Chocolate Chip Cookies for redis |
| 10:10 |
berick |
that or Resistance where I go on every mission |
| 10:10 |
csharp_ |
sounds good too |
| 10:21 |
Dyrcona |
Hmm. One of our marc_exports is still running since Tuesday night. |
| 10:21 |
Dyrcona |
I wonder if Perl has some kind of issue on virtual machines? |
| 10:22 |
Dyrcona |
Well, I can always replace it with eg-marc-export. |
| 10:32 |
berick |
Dyrcona: fwiw, the --release build chopped off 1/3 of the runtime for my 150k record+items export. |
| 10:32 |
berick |
depends on the data, i'm sure, though |
| 10:34 |
* JBoyer |
wonders what Kuma's Korner does for birthdays? |
| 10:38 |
Dyrcona |
berick: Yeah, it looks like it will be faster by a couple of hours, maybe as much as 1/3. |
| 10:39 |
Dyrcona |
On my long-running Perl export, it has put about 870,044 records in the file, but I didn't think this library had that many, so maybe I'm missing a marc_export patch? |
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| 12:08 |
Dyrcona |
I thought maybe we were missing the patch for the --descendants option to marc_export, but we have it. |
| 12:08 |
Dyrcona |
'Cause this looks like it is dumping the whole database, not just 1 library's holdings. |
| 12:09 |
Dyrcona |
Oh! I think I see why it might not be working..../openils/bin/marc_export -i -e UTF-8 -f XML --descendants=MOUNT WACHUSETT COMMUNITY |
| 12:10 |
Bmagic |
does ingest_ctl depricate pingest.pl ? |
| 12:10 |
Dyrcona |
Looks like the org. unit is not properly quoted by the wrapper script. |
| 12:10 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic: That remains to be seen, but it probably should. |
| 12:11 |
Bmagic |
I'm messing with a 3.11.1 machine, and I ran pingest.pl over the database (while the global flag for queued ingest was turned on) - and it didn't seem to do anything in terms of opac visibility. Then I ran ingest_ctl, and things started happening |
| 12:13 |
Bmagic |
bearing in mind that this was a blank DB, bibs were loaded with global flag for queued in gest turned on (for speed), which resulted in nothing being able to turn up in search results |
| 12:13 |
Bmagic |
then I figured I'd do what I always do, and pingest.pl the DB. To my surprise, nothing was getting turned up in search. ingest_ctl did the trick |
| 12:15 |
Bmagic |
and along those lines: I'm choosing the utility server to run ingest_ctl, but I saw some errors in the primary DB server postgres logs along the lines "failed to ingest, trying ingest_ctl directly", which I can only imagine would attempt to talk to the service if it were running on the database server? Makes me think it needs to be running there instead of util |
| 12:15 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic: I don't recall if pingest.pl directly updates OPAC visibility. It probably doesn't as your experience suggests. |
| 12:17 |
Bmagic |
so far, Postgres 15 is kicking butt for me during all of this BTW |
| 12:18 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, Pg 15 is overall much faster than Pg 10 in my experience. IIRC, the boost really kicks in around Pg 13. |
| 12:19 |
Dyrcona |
Hmm. My wrapper script quotes the argument, but I guess it is not enough. |
| 12:19 |
* mmorgan |
is wondering how we coordinate hackaway transportation. Looks like a few of us indicated a need on the travel sheet. |
| 12:21 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, I wasn't thinking about getting picked up in Indy until mmorgan++ mentioned it. I just assumed someone would be there to pick folks up. |
| 12:42 |
JBoyer |
redavis, are you around? ^ |
| 12:42 |
JBoyer |
FYI, I'll be picking up EOLI employees since I'm already here, so to speak. |
| 12:43 |
redavis |
JBoyer, I'm here. |
| 12:44 |
JBoyer |
Just making sure you saw the Qs above, sorry if you've already handled it via email / other. |
| 12:45 |
redavis |
k, lemme check the spreadsheet. I know that some are coming in at 10 a.m. and there abouts, but the inn rooms won't be available until around 3. My plan was to stage people at my house and source sustenance for them as well (not at my house...unless people wanna raid the fridge) |
| 12:46 |
JBoyer |
oh, in that case let me know what the plan is too; I'm not sure where our 3 folks are staying and may need to kill some time. |
| 12:47 |
redavis |
JBoyer, so I'll pick up Rogan (he's earlier). It looks like the others (eeevil hasn't expressed their intentions on the travel doc yet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QQgSs2a_XUzwmvD6tR7vfuHK_suznItpk49M2HHelQg/edit?usp=sharing) |
| 12:48 |
Rogan |
so long as I'm not hitchhiking I'm cool with it |
| 12:48 |
Bmagic |
scottangel and I are driving, so we'll have a car which we can add to the pool if folks need rides! |
| 12:48 |
JBoyer |
works for me too, fewer trips. |
| 12:48 |
redavis |
Looks like abneiman is coming in at 3, and sleary at 6. I'll be picking up Rogan, Dyrcona, and mmorgan at 10ish. |
| 12:49 |
redavis |
(and no...I've communicated nothing about this in email because it was "next on the list.") |
| 12:50 |
redavis |
But I'll send out an email right now as soon as I gather a few more email addresses from hither and yon. Also Bmagic++ |
| 12:50 |
JBoyer |
No judgement here, I have so many nexts on my lists that the next thing on the list is to choose what's next on the list. |
| 12:51 |
redavis |
We'll likely be doing some type of "go here and eat" thing on Monday and Tuesday evening. We'll also need to gather times when people are LEAVING to get people back to the airport if applicable. |
| 12:51 |
redavis |
JBoyer++ |
| 12:52 |
redavis |
[next on list - throw list away and start over] |
| 12:52 |
Dyrcona |
eeevil's not going in person. |
| 12:52 |
redavis |
Hmm, okay. Well, that is a pretty explicit intention in terms of flights. |
| 12:53 |
Dyrcona |
Looks mmorgan and I are on the same flight. |
| 12:54 |
Dyrcona |
I will not be paying attention to chat for a bit. |
| 13:31 |
mmorgan |
redavis++ |
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| 14:07 |
eeevil |
redavis++ # thanks for hacker wrangling! I wish(?) I could be there to make transport even crazier, but alas. |
| 14:08 |
redavis |
alas indeed. It's okay. I think I've been pretty loose on the wrangling. But, I did openly share my cell phone number for any panicky emergencies. Also, thanks for reminding me to put the company credit card on something tangential to my person or the like. |
| 14:11 |
berick |
"tangential to my person or the like" is my favorite romance novel |
| 14:16 |
* redavis |
laughs |
| 14:16 |
redavis |
Something for everyone...and no one. As close as you want...or don't. |
| 14:24 |
JBoyer |
"The two stood in front of the store somewhat noncommittally, shuffling from foot to foot occasionally. He glanced in her general direction and said 'Cool, I guess.' Somewhere in the distance a Gen-Xer howled in frustration before bursting into flame." |
| 14:27 |
redavis |
It was me. I was the Gen-Xer. It was frustration over being both apathetic and wanting answers. Was it spontaneous combustion? No, just unnoticed friction. |
| 15:00 |
berick |
quality stuff |
| 15:01 |
redavis |
lol |
| 15:03 |
redavis |
I mean, I think it was Gen-x that was around for the whole mailorder harlequin/silhouette subscription things (like BMG). We got quality stamped on our forehead...(it's washable ink that we know not to remove with magic eraser sponges). |
| 15:18 |
kmlussier1 |
I don't know what the harlequin/silhouette subscription thing was, but I was just talking fondly this week about my Columbia House mail order subscription. Those were good times! |
| 15:19 |
kmlussier1 |
Oh, my nick is messed up. How sad. Anyway, have a good weekend #evergreen! Safe travels to all who will be going to Indianapolis! |
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| 15:21 |
terranm |
The true Gen Xer test is the exposure to the Flowers in the Attic books |
| 15:21 |
terranm |
Those were passed around like contraband in my junior high |
| 15:22 |
redavis |
Oh, full exposure here. I was just thinking about those the other day and how wrong it all was. |
| 15:23 |
redavis |
hmm, I'm not sure how I got ahold of them. Kinda thing my mom might have accidentally bought them at a garage sale or something like that. The paperbacks swirled. Same with Stephen King. |
| 15:24 |
terranm |
So much Stephen King! |
| 15:24 |
terranm |
Between those and after school specials as latchkey kids, it's no wonder we all have a dark streak |
| 15:26 |
redavis |
lol, exactly. The world was exciting and very, very dangerous. But we also learned to make our own afterschool snacks (if there was food in the kitchen). So that was good. |
| 15:28 |
jeffdavis |
There was a film adaptation of Flowers in the Attic a few years ago, not sure if it was popular enough to create a post-Gen X fanbase though |
| 15:29 |
jeffdavis |
My reaction at the time was that some things are better left forgotten |
| 15:29 |
redavis |
Yeah...I saw that it was available. Honestly, those books were super traumatic for me and not entertaining at all. Your reaction was mine. |
| 15:30 |
redavis |
I mean, I read them as a pre-teen and teen...but also my brain wasn't fully developed and I made lots of suspect decisions. |
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| 15:34 |
terranm |
I definitely shouldn't have read them at that age (or ever) |
| 15:35 |
redavis |
lol, at least we know things to NEVER DO TO CHILDREN. |
| 15:35 |
terranm |
I mean... my brother only lit the living room rug on fire ONCE. It was FINE. |
| 15:37 |
redavis |
Hmm, that seems...okay. My brothers burned one of their mattresses because they were "camping" under a blanket with an electric lamp. (how ARE we alive?) |
| 15:41 |
redavis |
Thank goodness for Madeleine L'Engle - throwing just a little bit of less crazy and way less harmful into the mix. |
| 15:41 |
redavis |
In my case. |
| 15:42 |
terranm |
<3 |
| 15:45 |
redavis |
Alright friendly friends - for all attending the hackaway in person or remotely, see you soon. If you were listed as an attendee, I've sent my cell phone number. If you're attending but haven't put your name in the wiki, please do and I'll contact you tomorrow or tonight with some logistical info. Rogan++ #you're a rockstar. |
| 16:03 |
terranm |
Looking forward to it! The PINES folks will get to the lodge around 4pm I think |
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