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mmorgan |
Bmagic: re: emailing bibs from a basket, see also bug 1955079 |
08:51 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1955079 in Evergreen 3.8 "Emailing Bib Records from the catalog (staff and OPAC) reports success, but fails to send email" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1955079 |
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09:43 |
Bmagic |
mmorgan++ |
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10:08 |
Dyrcona |
Wow! An export of all of our records with items is still running after 114 hours and 31 minutes. It has exported 1,315,113 records so far. The XML file is 7.7 GB. |
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jeff |
That's what, 3.2 records per second? That seems exceptionally slow. Any ideas/suspects, or are you just noticing and looking into it? |
10:22 |
jeff |
5.9 kb average record size seems reasonable, especially with holdings data added. Our non-deleted bibs (excluding a bunch of deleted stubby ILL bibs) are about 4.5 kb on average. |
10:23 |
jeff |
anyway, if you had something looping or some kind of unintentionally additive loop/array, i'd expect you'd have a lot more than 7.7 GB of output. |
10:26 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: I'm not really looking into it. I'm testing some patches on a test system, and also doing a test run for a big Aspen export. I thought I'd just run marc_export like this and time it: /usr/bin/perl /openils/bin/marc_export --all --items --exclude-hidden --852b circ_lib --format XML |
10:27 |
Dyrcona |
`ps -o etime 24586` said 4-19:00:01 just a few seconds ago. |
10:28 |
Dyrcona |
I'm running it with time, but was curious how long it has been going so far. |
10:29 |
Dyrcona |
Adding --items seems to really slow it down on this setup. |
10:33 |
Dyrcona |
I should try it with a binary MARC file to see if that makes a difference. I wonder if writing the output locally is a problem, though I doubt it. |
10:36 |
Dyrcona |
The db server does not appear to be under any strain. |
10:37 |
Dyrcona |
Load is 0.08 and plenty of free RAM, which could mean its not cached, but with NVMe, who needs cache? ;) |
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Dyrcona |
Makes me wonder if we're missing an index, or if adding a new index might help. It would be nice if there was an easy way to dump the SQL from Perl DBI... Maybe there is. I should check. |
10:48 |
Dyrcona |
I suppose I could hack a copy of marc_export to dump the SQL instead of executing it. |
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Dyrcona |
I'd like to run it through explain. It's probably the queries to grab item information to add to the MARC, so I'll have to dump an example of that, too. |
10:52 |
Dyrcona |
Guess I will be looking into it later.... *sigh* |
10:52 |
jeff |
or tweak log_min_duration_statement just long enough to capture some sample queries. depends on how otherwise loaded your db server is, if this is prod. |
10:56 |
Dyrcona |
This is a test system that hosts multiple databases, but this is the only instance currently doing anything. |
10:56 |
jeff |
ah, that makes many things easier. |
10:56 |
Dyrcona |
I wonder if the number of page faults in marc_export matters.... |
10:57 |
jeff |
if you're trying to hold that whole resultset in memory... I haven't looked at how marc_export does paging, if at all. |
11:01 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: It uses DBI->execute and loops over the result set, then it runs additional queries if necessary. And, yeah, its RSS is about 8GB, or 25.7% of RAM according to ps. |
11:03 |
Dyrcona |
It's using 98.2% CPU, which nothing because the VM is configured with 16. The hardware has 32 with HTT enabled. |
11:03 |
Dyrcona |
It's not running on the same server as the DB either. |
11:06 |
Dyrcona |
I'll have to do some investigation to see where the problem lies. Maybe I can get some improvements for everyone out of this. |
11:20 |
Dyrcona |
jeff++ # I may just crank the logging up for a test run later. I suspect this one will finish sometime later today, but I also thought that it would have done by yesterday to start with. |
11:24 |
Dyrcona |
FWIW, I'm dumping XML because it's "easier" to work with than binary MARC, but when a file is about 8GB in size, the format doesn't really matter any longer, does it? :) |
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Dyrcona |
Y'know. I think I'll also do a similar extract with the --items option and time that. I also want to check what sandbergja reported on Lp 2015484. |
13:00 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2015484 in Evergreen "marc_export: provide way to exclude OPAC-suppressed items" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2015484 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson) |
13:41 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: I think some of the patches that I am testing are responsible for the slow down, particularly the one for the above Lp bug. |
13:45 |
Dyrcona |
I think I'll revert a couple of commits before I say much more. |
14:21 |
Dyrcona |
Hmm... Looks like I have somewhere in the vicinity of 400,000 records left to export. I think I'll stop this one and try again with the suspected commits reverted. |
14:25 |
Dyrcona |
Think I'll export to a binary MARC file this time. At least the file will be smaller. |
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14:51 |
Stompro |
I survived our upgrade from 3.3 -> 3.11, I should really upgrade more often. |
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14:52 |
Dyrcona |
Stompro++ |
14:52 |
jeffdavis |
Stompro++ # that's a big leap, glad you survived! |
14:52 |
Dyrcona |
We always skip a few versions, but never that many. |
14:53 |
shulabear |
Stompro++ |
14:55 |
terranm |
Stompro++ yes, please, for your sanity, upgrade more often! |
14:55 |
Stompro |
Trying to find all the instances of SMS Carrier needing to be set. |
14:55 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: I reverted a couple of commits and the export seems to be gong faster. I'm inclined to blame a particular commit... |
14:56 |
jeff |
what do you think was slowing you down? the accessors on the fm objects for status/location, or something else? |
14:56 |
Dyrcona |
I also would not be surprised if writing binary is faster than writing XML. |
14:56 |
jeffdavis |
Hey so I guess we've got a dev meeting starting in a few minutes? |
14:57 |
jeff |
jeffdavis: indeed! |
14:57 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: I strongly suspect this commit: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=68b92526949454ad08142e48656b911e0dc1c9a6 |
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Bmagic |
#startmeeting 2023-10-10 - Developer Meeting |
15:02 |
pinesol |
Meeting started Tue Oct 10 15:02:10 2023 US/Eastern. The chair is Bmagic. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
15:02 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
15:02 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to '2023_10_10___developer_meeting' |
15:02 |
Bmagic |
#info Agenda at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2023-10-10 |
15:02 |
Bmagic |
#topic Introductions |
15:02 |
Bmagic |
#info Bmagic = Blake GH, MOBIUS |
15:02 |
terranm |
#info terranm = Terran McCanna, PINES |
15:02 |
collum |
#info collum = Garry Collum, KCPL |
15:02 |
jeff |
#info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) |
15:02 |
dluch |
#info dluch = Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS |
15:03 |
mmorgan |
#info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE |
15:03 |
shulabear |
#info shulabear = Shula Link, GCHRL |
15:03 |
Stompro |
#info Stompro = Josh Stompro, LARL and NWRL |
15:03 |
berick |
#info berick Bill Erickson, KCLS |
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abneiman |
#info abneiman = Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox |
15:03 |
eeevil |
#info eeevil = Mike Rylander, EOLI |
15:04 |
Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CW MARS |
15:04 |
sleary |
#info sleary = Stephanie Leary, EOLI |
15:04 |
Bmagic |
feel free to introduce yourselves as you arrive |
15:04 |
Bmagic |
#topic Action Items from Last Meeting |
15:04 |
Bmagic |
#info jeff will make tutorial: "Add missing field to print template" |
15:04 |
Bmagic |
#info jeff will write tutorial "Retrieve a user's setting and do something based on its value" |
15:04 |
jeff |
both tutorials remain on my todo list, and I expect that I'll be able to spend time on then by the next dev meeting. |
15:05 |
Bmagic |
jeff++ |
15:05 |
Bmagic |
#info mmorgan will explore moving LP stats to community site and automating same |
15:05 |
mmorgan |
Still exploring capabilities of the Launchpad api for this. That's all I have to report right now. I did add stats to the agenda for this meeting. |
15:05 |
Bmagic |
mmorgan++ |
15:06 |
Bmagic |
#info sandbergja will write tutorial: "Do a database call (Galen’s cat counter)" |
15:06 |
sandbergja |
Partially done! |
15:07 |
sleary |
@sandbergja asked me to take a look at the draft, and I have not had a chance. It is on my agenda! |
15:07 |
pinesol |
sleary: git diff origin/hamster |
15:07 |
dluch |
jeff+ mmorgan++ sandbergja++ |
15:07 |
Bmagic |
sandbergja++ |
15:07 |
Bmagic |
sleary++ |
15:07 |
Bmagic |
#info berick will post something to the email list about merging OpenSRF into Evergreen |
15:08 |
berick |
done |
15:08 |
shulabear |
Jeff++ mmorgan++ sandbergja++ |
15:08 |
Bmagic |
berick++ |
15:08 |
dluch |
berick++ |
15:08 |
dluch |
sleary++ |
15:09 |
Bmagic |
carrying the action forward, incoming |
15:09 |
Bmagic |
#action jeff will make tutorial: "Add missing field to print template" |
15:09 |
Bmagic |
#action jeff will write tutorial "Retrieve a user's setting and do something based on its value" |
15:09 |
Bmagic |
#action mmorgan will explore moving LP stats to community site and automating same |
15:09 |
Bmagic |
#action sandbergja will write tutorial: "Do a database call (Galen’s cat counter)" |
15:10 |
Bmagic |
#topic OpenSRF |
15:10 |
Bmagic |
any last minute things on OpenSRF that didn't make it onto the agenda? |
15:11 |
Bmagic |
#topic Evergreen - 3.12 Release Schedule & Roadmap |
15:11 |
Bmagic |
#link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap#release_schedule |
15:11 |
Bmagic |
#link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap:3.12 |
15:12 |
abneiman |
the bugs-with-signoffs link is huge & ugly, sorry |
15:12 |
abneiman |
anyway, those are the release things, any questions? |
15:12 |
Bmagic |
#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=pullrequest+ |
15:12 |
Bmagic |
signedoff&field.tags_combinator=ALL&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search |
15:13 |
Bmagic |
eeesh |
15:13 |
abneiman |
cough |
15:13 |
abneiman |
toldya :) |
15:13 |
mmorgan |
gesundheit |
15:13 |
Dyrcona |
Well, that's Launchpad for ya. |
15:13 |
Bmagic |
hopefully that makes it through the parse |
15:13 |
dluch |
Dang, lol |
15:13 |
dluch |
https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2023-10-10 |
15:13 |
dluch |
oops, ignore that, sorry |
15:13 |
Bmagic |
abneiman++ |
15:13 |
abneiman |
anyway, things with signoffs! any committers in the room, please feel free to review and commit! |
15:14 |
shulabear |
Abneiman++ |
15:14 |
dluch |
abneiman++ |
15:14 |
sandbergja |
abneiman++ |
15:14 |
abneiman |
feature slush is the Monday after Hackaway, so coming up quick - get those features in for review :) |
15:14 |
sandbergja |
I think those monday review meetings have been going well. Please feel free to stop by if you haven't yet had the chance! We've been able to move 5 pull requests forward, including getting 2 committed. |
15:14 |
Bmagic |
#topic Evergreen - Jane is hosting weekly review meetings on Mondays at 2pm ET |
15:14 |
abneiman |
sandbergja++ for the code review meetings, btw, which I have not yet been able to attend |
15:14 |
Bmagic |
:) |
15:14 |
berick |
sandbergja++ # indeed, great idea |
15:14 |
dluch |
sandbergja++ |
15:14 |
mmorgan |
sandbergja++ |
15:14 |
Bmagic |
sandbergja++ |
15:14 |
shulabear |
Sandbergja++ |
15:15 |
collum |
sandbergja++ |
15:15 |
Bmagic |
#topic Documentation |
15:16 |
Bmagic |
#info DIG Meeting this Thursday, October 12, at 11am/12pm/1pm/2pm |
15:16 |
Bmagic |
#link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meetings:20231012-agenda |
15:16 |
dluch |
Nothing to add to what I put on the agenda about Thursday's meeting |
15:16 |
Bmagic |
dluch++ |
15:16 |
terranm |
sandbergja++ |
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15:17 |
Bmagic |
we're going fast, feel free to type something and slow us down |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#topic Launchpad Status (as of noon Eastern) |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#info Open Bugs - 3072 |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#info Pullrequests - 94 |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#info Signedoff - 21 |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#topic Launchpad Status since last meeting |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#info Bugs Added - 55 |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#info Pullrequest tag Added - 19 |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#info Signedoff tag Added - 8 |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#info Fix Committed - 12 |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#topic New Business - Should we interfile nightwatch tests into the typical eg2/src/app directory (bug 2036831)? - Jane |
15:18 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2036831 in Evergreen "Move nightwatch tests into the same directory as the code they test" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036831 |
15:18 |
mmorgan |
Lots to test, lots to commit :) |
15:18 |
Bmagic |
#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2036831 |
15:19 |
sandbergja |
Ooh, This came up in the newdevs group! Especially from sleary, so please jump in if I get something wrong :-) |
15:19 |
Bmagic |
mmorgan++ # thanks for doing the stats! it's nice to see them like that |
15:20 |
sandbergja |
the idea was to reduce some of the maintenance burden of the nightwatch tests by making it clear when a particular UI has some nightwatch tests that exercise it |
15:20 |
sandbergja |
And one easy way to do that is to just house them in the same directories |
15:20 |
sandbergja |
like we already do with the unit tests |
15:20 |
sleary |
ah yes! I am 100% on board with doing more Nightwatch tests, but (as I am also rearranging our markup on a daily basis) I want to make sure it's easy to find the test that corresponds to the file you're looking at |
15:20 |
sandbergja |
So what do you think? |
15:21 |
Bmagic |
I've been confused by this before, but I figured that there was a reason for it that predates me |
15:21 |
berick |
any concerns about moving them? |
15:21 |
berick |
certainly makes sense |
15:22 |
berick |
having the .html and .ts files side by side has been a huge help |
15:22 |
berick |
just as an example |
15:22 |
sleary |
sandbergja: it's relatively easy to change the command to run all the tests from a directory to a filename pattern, right? |
15:22 |
terranm |
It will also be easier to see if there are things that should have Nightwatch tests that do not |
15:22 |
Bmagic |
I'm all about file folder organization, and it makes sense to me to have related things together. |
15:23 |
shulabear |
+1 to having tests in the same directory as the code being tested |
15:23 |
sandbergja |
sleary: theoretically, yes, it should be just changing the config file. I haven't actually tried it though |
15:23 |
sleary |
sandbergja++ |
15:24 |
sandbergja |
Cool! I'm not hearing any objections. Anybody interested in taking this one on? |
15:24 |
Bmagic |
do we vote maybe? |
15:24 |
sandbergja |
ooh, vote sounds fun |
15:25 |
Bmagic |
hah, lets see if I can pull that off |
15:26 |
Bmagic |
#startvote Shall we move the tests to related places in the Evergreen codebase yes, or no |
15:26 |
pinesol |
Unable to parse vote topic and options. |
15:26 |
Bmagic |
lol |
15:27 |
Bmagic |
#startvote Shall we move the tests to related places in the Evergreen codebase? yes, no |
15:27 |
pinesol |
Begin voting on: Shall we move the tests to related places in the Evergreen codebase? Valid vote options are yes, no. |
15:27 |
pinesol |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
15:27 |
Bmagic |
#vote yes |
15:27 |
shulabear |
#vote yes |
15:27 |
Dyrcona |
#vote yes |
15:27 |
sandbergja |
#vote yes |
15:27 |
collum |
#vote yes |
15:27 |
mmorgan |
#vote yes |
15:27 |
Bmagic |
#showvote |
15:27 |
pinesol |
yes (6): shulabear, sandbergja, mmorgan, Bmagic, Dyrcona, collum |
15:27 |
Bmagic |
voting is still open |
15:27 |
Bmagic |
#endvote |
15:27 |
pinesol |
Voted on "Shall we move the tests to related places in the Evergreen codebase?" Results are |
15:27 |
pinesol |
yes (6): shulabear, sandbergja, mmorgan, Bmagic, Dyrcona, collum |
15:28 |
Bmagic |
that was fun |
15:28 |
berick |
heh, "the tests" to "the places". we're still talking about nightwatch yes? |
15:28 |
terranm |
Sorry, "yes" - heh |
15:28 |
dluch |
lol |
15:28 |
berick |
#vote yes |
15:28 |
Bmagic |
yeah, nightwatch, sorry I didn't specify |
15:28 |
terranm |
#vote yes |
15:29 |
Bmagic |
thanks all, moving on |
15:29 |
sleary |
#vote yes |
15:29 |
Bmagic |
#topic Announcements |
15:29 |
Bmagic |
Anyone want to announce anything? |
15:29 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic, you have to #endvote |
15:29 |
Bmagic |
Dyrcona: I did, at least it shows that for me |
15:29 |
dluch |
yep |
15:29 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, I missed it, sorry. |
15:30 |
Dyrcona |
Someone voted late. |
15:30 |
Bmagic |
The bot didn't count the three late votes, but the results are clear: yes |
15:32 |
Bmagic |
looping back to that topic actually, do we need volunteers to do the work? |
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15:33 |
Bmagic |
Crickets |
15:33 |
abneiman |
lol |
15:33 |
shulabear |
I'm not sure what all would be involved, but I'd be willing to learn |
15:34 |
sandbergja |
shulabear++ |
15:34 |
shulabear |
If it's more than "move files and make a consistent naming scheme" |
15:34 |
Bmagic |
sandbergja: maybe at your next meeting, we can go over it? |
15:34 |
sandbergja |
Sure, if you're available then shulabear |
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15:35 |
terranm |
sandbergja++ shulabear++ |
15:35 |
mmorgan |
shulabear++ |
15:35 |
sandbergja |
if not, I'm happy to be on hand with any questions you have shulabear |
15:35 |
sandbergja |
^on hand to answer |
15:36 |
shulabear |
Assuming my girlfriend's surgical consult that morning doesn't run long, I should be free |
15:36 |
Bmagic |
#action sandbergja will go over the Nightwatch test reorg with folks at the Monday at 2pm ET meeting or another time as available |
15:36 |
shulabear |
Put it on my calendar |
15:36 |
shulabear |
Sandbergja++ |
15:37 |
Bmagic |
sandbergja++ |
15:37 |
Bmagic |
We're technically in the Announcements topic so.. |
15:37 |
Bmagic |
#info Next Meeting is Tuesday, November 14th |
15:38 |
Bmagic |
Anyone want to add anything before we close? |
15:38 |
mmorgan |
I didn't put this on the agenda, bug just want to throw bug 2002693 out there for additional eyes. |
15:38 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2002693 in Evergreen "Logging out on a page with a pcrud call floods browser with errors" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2002693 |
15:39 |
mmorgan |
I'll be adding comments soon and would appreciate anyone's attention. |
15:39 |
dluch |
shulabear++ sandbergja++ |
15:39 |
sandbergja |
mmorgan++ |
15:39 |
shulabear |
Mmorgan++ |
15:39 |
dluch |
mmorgan++ |
15:39 |
Bmagic |
#info Hack-a-way is coming up! |
15:39 |
Bmagic |
#link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=hack-a-way:hack-a-way-2023 |
15:39 |
sandbergja |
it occured to me that we should probably merge bug 2035287 before moving the nightwatch tests. Make them work first before messing with them hahaha |
15:39 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 2035287 in Evergreen "e2e tests are failing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2035287 |
15:39 |
Bmagic |
mmorgan++ |
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15:41 |
Bmagic |
thanks sandbergja, that looks like a good one to take care of |
15:42 |
Bmagic |
alrighty, see some of you in a couple weeks! |
15:42 |
Bmagic |
#endmeeting |
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pinesol |
Meeting ended Tue Oct 10 15:42:21 2023 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2023/evergreen.2023-10-10-15.02.html |
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Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2023/evergreen.2023-10-10-15.02.txt |
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Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2023/evergreen.2023-10-10-15.02.log.html |
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Thank you, thank you. I'd like to thank my rubber ducky and my lovely parents! |
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As promised at the dev meeting, comment #9 has been added to bug 2002693 |
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Launchpad bug 2002693 in Evergreen "Logging out on a page with a pcrud call floods browser with errors" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2002693 |
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News from commits: LP#2004587: add option to marc_export to tune 852$b output <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e53c62c548e82d395ce8505173f4a7bd5cc1549> |
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