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11:02 Stompro jeffdavis, "is pgbackrest significantly faster than pg_dump/pg_restore?" I was mainly interested in the incremental backup feature, so I can backup every 2 hours with a much smaller file size.
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14:07 jeffdavis I've got a test server where generating Did You Mean suggestions is adding 23 seconds to the runtime of a keyword search, because the call to search.symspell_lookup has to process 62,000 potential suggestions.
14:08 jeffdavis This is a 3.11 server.
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14:13 jeffdavis symspell dictionary was generated using the sideload script with the default values for internal flags (symspell.prefix_length = 6, symspell.max_edit_distance = 3)
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14:23 Dhruv_Fumtiwala copy_vis_attr_cache
14:23 Dhruv_Fumtiwala Can you please help me as to what this table has information about.
14:24 Dhruv_Fumtiwala It is under Asset Schema
14:32 jeff it was formerly a trigger-materialized view that assisted in determining if items (asset.copy rows) were "visible" in searches, taking into account several different things that could make a copy "visible" or "not visible" in the public-facing catalog. It has been unused for a number of releases now. I don't recall offhand when it was replaced.
14:33 jeff sorry, I'm wrong.
14:33 jeff scratch that, reverse it. copy_vis_attr_cache replaced the table I just described..
14:33 jeff (I was describing the long-gone asset.opac_visible_copies)
14:36 jeff there is a little more information available in this mailing list thread from 2019: http://list.evergreen-ils.org/piperma​il/open-ils-dev/2019-June/010775.html
14:36 jeff there may be better sources of that information, but I don't have them handy right now.
14:42 Dhruv_Fumtiwala Apologies, but didn't quite get it.
14:45 jeffdavis Basically, asset.copy_vis_attr_cache indicates which items attached to a bib record are visible for different types of catalog searches (e.g. at different search locations).
14:46 jeffdavis When you do a search, Evergreen finds all the bib records that match your search terms, then uses copy visibility information from asset.copy_vis_attr_cache to exclude records that match your terms but don't have any copies at the libraries you are searching.
14:47 jeffdavis I'm oversimplifying but that's the general idea.
14:47 Dhruv_Fumtiwala Ohh, now it helped me make more sense. Thank You.
14:50 jeffdavis Evergreen's internal technical documentation has a more detailed technical explanation here: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a​=blob;f=docs/TechRef/PureSQLSearch.adoc;hb=HEAD - but it's likely more detailed than you really want :)
15:00 Dhruv_Fumtiwala Sure, Thanks
15:16 jeffdavis realizing I mentioned our DYM-related search slowness issue last week - fwiw search.symspell_dictionary entries were generated using whatever version of sideload is in 3.11 and I explicitly excluded deleted bibs
15:16 jeffdavis I've opened a Launchpad bug for the issue, bug 2038472
15:16 pinesol Launchpad bug 2038472 in Evergreen "Search suggestions can make searches very slow in 3.11" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2038472
15:43 jeff jeffdavis: possibly reading too much into your words, by "slow in 3.11" do you mean that there is a version of Evergreen prior to 3.11 where search suggestions did not result in very slow searches?
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15:45 Stompro In the angular catalog search, the opac hidden marc coded value maps that are not marked opac visible are showing.  Is that a config option?
15:45 jihpringle jeff: when I do a search on our 3.11 test server public catalogue it takes 52 seconds to give me any results, a search on PINES' catalogue takes seconds and they have  DYM running in 3.10
15:50 jihpringle Strompo: it's a bug, we deleted the hidden ones off our server since we weren't using them anyways
15:50 jihpringle Stompro ^^
15:51 jihpringle here's the original bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1872867
15:51 pinesol Launchpad bug 1872867 in Evergreen "Angular Staff Catalog Format Drop Down List Not Using Search Labels or Observing OPAC Visible Value" [Undecided,Fix released]
15:52 Stompro jihpringle++ thank you very much.
15:52 jihpringle np :)
15:53 jihpringle we never bothered to put in a new bug because deleting them fixed it for us and we currently have no need for Format filters that are only staff visible
16:09 Stompro jihpringle, I filed bug 2038476 to start discussing just hiding them from staff also.
16:09 pinesol Launchpad bug 2038476 in Evergreen "Angular Staff Catalog Format Drop Down - Observing OPAC Visible Value " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2038476
16:14 jihpringle great!
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