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09:40 StomproJ I didn't realize bug 1862834 was a thing... we have 88 call number prefixes in use with 250 templates... lets go test that fix out.
09:40 pinesol Launchpad bug 1862834 in Evergreen 3.11 "regex based url building that can match hostnames" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862834
09:41 StomproJ Ooops, bad paste buffer.  I mean bug 1983156.
09:41 pinesol Launchpad bug 1983156 in Evergreen "Allow Call Number attributes in Item Templates option gone" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1983156 - Assigned to Michele Morgan (mmorgan)
09:42 mmorgan StomproJ++
09:44 mmorgan StomproJ: Just fyi, I feel the current patch is progress, but it's incomplete. It does allow call number attributes in existing templates to work, though, which is the most important thing.
09:46 StomproJ So it needs the bits to save back into the template when updating the template?
09:46 mmorgan StomproJ: Exactly!
09:47 mmorgan Also, the standalone template editor under Local Admin DOES allow the call number attrs to get saved in the template - that interface hasn't been angularized yet.
09:48 StomproJ That makes testing a bit harder, if someone cannot add that info to the prefix.... ah.
09:49 * mmorgan can add some testing notes to the LP bug.
09:49 StomproJ I'm seeing two actor.usr_setting types for storing templates, cat.copy.templates and staff_client.copy_editor.templates.
09:49 StomproJ Is staff_client.copy_editor.templates the old XUL key?
09:50 Dyrcona One of them is, and I don't remember which.
09:51 StomproJ cat.copy.templates seems to what the Angular client uses.  I think I got them confused in another bug I was looking at.
09:51 StomproJ Shoot, I worked for a few hours on that, not noticing that it was the wrong one.
09:51 mmorgan cat.copy.templates is the one.
09:52 Dyrcona "[T]he standalone template editor under Local Admin" this points to a problem without intending to.
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09:57 StomproJ mmorgan, I'm in what I think is the standalong template editor, but there is no item section where the prefix can be set.
10:00 mmorgan StomproJ: Just posted some testing notes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/1983156/comments/9
10:00 pinesol Launchpad bug 1983156 in Evergreen "Allow Call Number attributes in Item Templates option gone" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Michele Morgan (mmorgan)
10:00 mmorgan You need to set preferences in the holdings editor to get those to display.
10:01 StomproJ Thanks
10:01 mmorgan Thanks for having a look!
10:07 StomproJ I'm still not seeing the item info in the stand alone template editor though...
10:11 StomproJ Maybe I need to set the settings in the AngularJS volcopy editor, instead of the Angular one?
10:13 mmorgan StomproJ: Do you mean "call number info"? Setting it in the Angular holdings editor should work, it should set the same ws setting as the AngularJS option.
10:18 StomproJ I had to open up https://bugsquash2.mobiusconsortium.​org/eg/staff/cat/catalog/record/252 to get the AngularJS interface, then Add Holdings to get the AngularJS Volcopy editor, then Defaults, and set Allow Call Number attributes in Item Templates there.
10:20 StomproJ The settings storage must be different between the versions?
10:22 mmorgan Hmm. Shouldn't be, unless I missed something - which is possible :)
10:24 StomproJ AngularJS volcopy prefs seem to be in cat.copy.defaults - and the "Allow Call Number attributes" sets the ""show_vol_template_controls": true," json value
10:25 StomproJ Angular seems to use "eg.cat.volcopy.defaults" and sets "show_vol_template_controls": true
10:27 mmorgan Ok, that makes sense. So it sounds like you DO need to set the preference in the angularjs holdings editor to get the call number attributes to show in the standalone holdings editor.
10:28 mmorgan Just so you can create a template to test. I can see how this is difficult to test. :-/
10:29 StomproJ Yes, but I'm making progress.  I'm just adding some Call number suffix entries to make sure I try them also.
10:31 mmorgan StomproJ++
10:34 pinesol News from commits: LP2028088 Fix info, primary, success button colors <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=5186c7​2cc0d5aa0ab142a8515697735bef6cd1b5>
10:35 Dyrcona QOTD (although it is 3 years old): "You may be tempted to meddle with the pg_database system catalog manually, but I can only discourage that: as the saying is, if you do that and things break, you get to keep both pieces."
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10:37 StomproJ mmorgan, the Suffix isn't applying.
10:37 mmorgan :-(
10:39 * mmorgan will need to take a look at that.
10:41 StomproJ mmorgan, false alarm, had to log out and log in for the template change to get read.  Could have been a side effect of me doing things in different tabs.
10:42 StomproJ The Suffix does apply.
10:42 mmorgan Ok, thanks! I have to admit, in my testing I was mostly focusing on Classification and Prefix, but thought I did try Suffix a few times :)
10:43 StomproJ We don't use suffix at all either in production, but I don't want to hurt it's feelings by not testing it.
10:44 mmorgan We have lots of libraries that use Prefix, many fewer that use Suffix, but it needs to work, too!
10:46 Dyrcona If it is there, someone will use it. :)
10:47 StomproJ I really hate that template save button being there.  Gets me every time.
10:48 Dyrcona So, move it somewhere safer.
10:49 * mmorgan has hit that a few times by accident, too!
10:50 StomproJ I thought the AngularJS volcopy editor did have it moved..
10:50 StomproJ Yes, it did, I liked that.
10:51 Dyrcona So, move it while you're working on the code.
10:54 StomproJ Dyrcona, if I ever get proficient with Angular I'll give it a shot.
11:00 Dyrcona By then we'll be using Circular or whatever comes next. :P
11:03 StomproJ Ha, no doubt.
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11:04 StomproJ mmorgan, it seems to work as described.... I'm going to look at the saveTemplate() function in Open-ILS/src/eg2/src/app/staff/ca​t/volcopy/copy-attrs.component.ts and see how hard it is to add info to the template.
11:05 mmorgan StomproJ: That would be awesome! I've been poking at it, but am also struggling to become proficient in Angular! :)
11:18 * berick grabs 1380
11:34 pinesol News from commits: LP1999804 Stamp DB Upgrade (ADMIN_PROXIMITY_ADJUSTMENT) <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e13d5​bf6eb42366589e5553b0dbe97f0570d044>
11:34 pinesol News from commits: LP1999804 - Add Missing Permission ADMIN_PROXIMITY_ADJUSTMENT <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d9117​40ac4998e5afb6b2e6c0c873f41788b63c>
11:34 pinesol News from commits: LP1917092: Add release note. <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=24c07c​5ccbb833dbbdcdff7b46552d4d114e30ff>
11:34 pinesol News from commits: LP1917092: Filter shelving location grid to non-deleted by default <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d9115​7da26fcfa578195dff2b52110a8a8f1a2e>
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12:02 mmorgan So if a patch is committed to main and 3.11, and should also be applied to 3.10, but there are conflicts that need to be resolved, should the 3.10.4 target be set in Launchpad?
12:04 pinesol News from commits: LP2030915: Add release note <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=80bcff​6795c472a9cec3031d15e0428cc98fd308>
12:04 pinesol News from commits: LP2030915: Restrain creation of AutorenewNotify events <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=635cc3​971e11f883a2db7d25276b47248960e9ac>
12:04 pinesol News from commits: LP#1986706 - Fast Item Add - barcode wasn't being set in volcopy editor. <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1dccf​b02086fbe25265a3d17f3c999313d38dc9>
12:06 Dyrcona mmorgan: if the conflicts are resolved and it is pushed to 3.10, then yes. If you're not going to push it to 3.10, then set it to "won't fix" for 3.10 and remove the milestone.
12:07 Dyrcona It wouldn't hurt to add a comment about it is "won't fix" for 3.10.
12:13 mmorgan Dyrcona: My intent is to push it to 3.10, but need to look at the conflicts. It's already been pushed to main and 3.11 and those targets say Fix Committed. To me it makes sense to add the 3.10 target pending resolution of the conflicts, but I don't see that consistently on LP.
12:16 Dyrcona Your plan sounds find to me. It's OK to add the milestone if you think you'll get in for the release. As for the lack of consistency, we don't have really firm guidelines on setting these things, there are many of us, we're only human, etc.
12:16 Dyrcona s/find/fine/
12:18 mmorgan Ok, thanks! I will add those targets so the intent won't get lost!
12:18 mmorgan Dyrcona++
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13:12 Dyrcona Ooh... Subtle bug is subtle: 08 != 8; and 08 is 'value too great for base (error token is "08")'
13:13 Dyrcona And all because it is August. Script worked just fine until this month. :)
13:14 berick Beware the Octal of August
13:15 berick guess Caesar didn't make it that far
13:15 Dyrcona berick++
13:15 Dyrcona It works fine every month but August and September.
13:17 Dyrcona Fix is not too onerous. Since I'm using `date +%m` to get the month, I just pipe that through `sed -e s/^0//`.
13:18 Dyrcona Too bad it didn't blow up, it just produces bogus output with dates like 20230025.
13:19 Dyrcona I noticed that and started picking it apart to find the issue.
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13:35 mdriscoll Dyrcona: I'm looking at customizations in our system and checking If each has a Launchpad bug.  You created a fix in SuperCat.pm so keyword searches from Comcat would not be treated as exact matches.  Does that merit a launchpad bug?  Would it be of interest to anyone else?
13:39 Dyrcona mdriscoll: I suppose. I'm not sure it's a patch that everyone would want. We don't have a way to share patches for things like this.
13:41 Dyrcona I also wonder if there is not already a Lp bug for it.
13:43 mdriscoll I looked but couldn't find one.  Doesn't mean there isn't one.
13:44 mdriscoll It would be nice to have the patch somewhere and may be useful to someone else with a similar issue.
13:45 mdriscoll I would be happy to write up the LP.
13:45 Dyrcona Nope. I searched bugs reported by me including all statuses.
13:49 Dyrcona If you want to open a Lp bug, that's fine by me.
13:53 mdriscoll Ok I'll write one up.
13:57 jeffdavis mdriscoll: while you're here ... I took a look at bug 1818144. I found in our system what I *think* is an Advantage title not shared with the consortium, but the API requests using overdrive-api-checker.pl are returning a 404 with content '{"errorCode":"TitleNotFoundError","message":"The requested title was not found.","token":"<token>"}'
13:57 pinesol Launchpad bug 1818144 in Evergreen "Integration with OverDrive API (v.2) needed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818144
13:57 jeffdavis I don't know if that's how the API responds or if I just picked a bad example title
13:58 jeffdavis or if I'm doing it wrong in some other way :)
13:59 mdriscoll jeffdavis: That's interesting.  You may need to send the collection token for the Advantage library.
14:00 jeffdavis hmm, that would make sense
14:02 mdriscoll To do that you use this endpoint: https://api.overdrive.com/v1/libraries/{accountID}/advantageAccounts
14:03 mdriscoll To find the collection token that is.
14:05 mdriscoll Then resend your query for the title but with the owning library's collection token.
14:05 jeffdavis Yes, I was able to grab the right collection token that way and am getting more sensible availability responses now, will update the LP bug. Thanks!
14:05 mdriscoll Super!
14:23 jeffdavis bug updated
14:25 mdriscoll jeffdavis++
14:26 jeffdavis mdriscoll++ # thanks for working on that bug!
14:28 mdriscoll Dyrcona: I create bug 2033095.  I pretty much scraped the description from an email you sent in 2016.
14:28 pinesol Launchpad bug 2033095 in Evergreen "Keyword searches sent over z39.50 treated as exact match searches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2033095
14:32 Dyrcona mdriscoll++ I'll rebase the collab branch (it's about 4 years old) and add it to the bug.
14:33 mdriscoll Great I was hoping your would do that.
14:33 mdriscoll dyrcona++
14:33 Dyrcona I wonder if we should make a tag on Lp for customization/optional type things?
14:34 Dyrcona We probably need a better way than Launchpad to share these things.
14:38 mdriscoll Would it be of interest to anyone else working with Autographics?  Does the fix break other z39.50 searches or is it harmless?
14:42 Dyrcona Well, according to eeevil back in the day, it would break other searches expecting an exact match on the eg indexes in the patch. However, it doesn't seem to be an issue in practice. I don't think Z39.50 is used that much.
14:43 Dyrcona It does NOT local staff using Z93.50 to search remote sites, nor does it affect local staff using the local catalog Z39.50 search.
14:44 * eeevil reads up
14:45 Dyrcona It's old stuff, probably not worth going into much detail on again.
14:46 eeevil oh dear... it's too late on a Friday for z search :P
14:46 Dyrcona :)
14:49 eeevil I read the commit message as "one client is very broken, so we'll not follow the standard instead of telling that client to not be broken" ... what's the client, btw?
14:50 eeevil oh, AG
14:50 eeevil of course
14:51 Dyrcona Well, sometimes it's easier to patch our side than struggle with a vendor. Particularly when every other implementation appears to be broken, too, and "it's only a problem with Evergreen...."
14:52 eeevil "how dare you OSS idiots do what the document says to do!"
14:52 Dyrcona But, yeah. I'm not arguing to mainline the code.
14:52 Dyrcona :)
14:52 Dyrcona Well, then there's NCIP....
14:53 eeevil anyway, I hope Z search goes away forever, eventually, because it's terrible. so if we're returning too many results and you can't do a phrase search in EG via Z, then so be it, I suppose
14:54 Dyrcona I think mdriscoll just wants the thing findable in LP, so if we leave the bug in a searchable state, we're fine.
14:54 mdriscoll What Dyrcona said.
14:57 * Dyrcona tries to figure out how to return a set of records with or without copies with or without located URIS, but not with located URIs and no copies. So they can have 0 copies and 0 URIs, or any number of copies, but not any number of URIs and 0 copies.
14:59 mmorgan Dyrcona: That's a tall order on a Friday afternoon :)
14:59 Dyrcona maybe a union.
14:59 Dyrcona Yeah, I don't plan to get it right today.
15:07 mmorgan Is it true that there's been no action on porting the view Holds Shelf to Angular? I don't see it in the Angular Circ interface, or a Launchpad bug.
15:14 berick mmorgan: hm.  i have one.
15:17 mmorgan Did I miss finding the lp bug?
15:17 berick no.  looking at my local commit.. "LPXXX Angular Holds Shelf / Clear Holds" -- never made it to LP
15:17 berick i'll post what I have
15:18 berick might need a little cleanup
15:23 * mmorgan was just looking at bugs for the existing view Holds Shelf, wondering if they would still apply to the Angular version - that doesn't exist yet :)
15:34 pinesol News from commits: Docs: LP1775930 updates to conjoined items docs <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c91b2​bc9474b2d477100cc6952847461017ae80>
15:34 pinesol News from commits: Conjoined items doc <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b3fd2​bef01f071ccc147d56b59b19b4e722e4f9>
15:43 * Dyrcona sings along with Ian Astbury: "Open the skyyyyy and let it come down......Here comes the rain!"
15:44 Dyrcona Surprise. It's raining here again.
15:45 Dyrcona Also, back to my query. I've tried a few things and it doesn't seem to make any difference to the output. The concern is we don't want to send records with only located URIs to our authority/cleanup vendor.
15:45 abneiman bah I'm not sure how I did that docs commit twice, but I am bad at git
15:46 Dyrcona From what I can tell, we aren't because we limit the records to a single bib source. If I run the query for all of the records created so far this year, and then add code to exclude those where the label is "URI" on the volume, it only drops 1 record.
15:47 Dyrcona abneiman: It takes talent to get git to accept the same commit twice in a row.
15:49 Dyrcona abneiman: They look like different commits as as git and I are concerned. Maybe I misundestand what's messed up?
15:49 abneiman Dyrcona: lest you think I'm actually talented, they are slightly different
15:50 Dyrcona S'OK. It's Friday. :)
15:50 abneiman I'm not sure how I managed to do it twice - I was trying to do a follow-up (renaming file directory & corresponding path in the doc) but I ended up committing the whole thing, without those changes, and then the whole thing, with those changes /shrug
15:51 abneiman I just wanted to commit it once with all the changes
15:51 abneiman oh well, as you say, TGIF
15:51 Dyrcona abneiman++
15:52 Dyrcona Could be the rename of the file. If you move then edit a file, you have to ad it again.
15:52 Dyrcona s/ad/add/
15:52 abneiman ahhh
15:52 abneiman that is quite likely it
15:52 abneiman Dyrcona++
15:52 Dyrcona Do it the other way around, i.e. edit then move, I don't think you have to add the file twice.
15:54 mmorgan Git + Bug Squashing Week + Friday afternoon is a dangerous combination
15:55 abneiman mmorgan++ # facts
15:55 Dyrcona Throw in Tequila and handguns and you've got a potential disaster.
15:56 mmorgan ... and rain.
15:56 abneiman sounds like the way my neighbors party
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15:57 Dyrcona :)
15:59 Dyrcona I was gonna say 'a party' instead of a potential disaster. There's a quote I was think of: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/52117-a-comput​er-lets-you-make-more-mistakes-faster-than-any
16:00 mmorgan Heh.
16:03 Dyrcona Speaking of potential disasters, Banksy said something along the lines of Art isn't art unless it has the potential to be a total disaster.
16:07 mmorgan Dyrcona: Glad to hear you got to visit Salem Library! It's a great library!
16:08 Dyrcona Yeah, nice place in a nice neighborhood.
16:09 mmorgan Love that neighborhood! The coolest architecture!
16:09 Dyrcona I was there almost all day Tuesday, and most of yesterday afternoon.
16:09 Dyrcona Every other house has a plaque on it. :)
16:10 abneiman phasefx++ for additional help with me un-borking git
16:10 mmorgan Salem is great - except when it's between you and your place of work in October.
16:10 Dyrcona My daughter was working at the Pickering House this summer. She was helping catalog some letters of one of the John Pikcering's.
16:11 Dyrcona Yeah, October....
16:11 Dyrcona I think there's so much more of interest in Salem than the witch trials.
16:12 * mmorgan generally drives by the Pickering house on my commute. Cool place!
16:12 mmorgan Your daughter must find it fascinating!
16:12 Dyrcona It's open for tours on Sunday, and they may be looking for new caretakers soonish.
16:13 Dyrcona Well, turns out she's distantly related to the Pickerings through her mother, but yeah, she found it interesting.
16:15 Dyrcona She's also also transcribing documents in the Gordon College archives this summer. She found the records of the 4th Street Baptist Church from the 1850s amusing. There was a to do about Mrs. Somebody's pew; they kept tabling the discussion to the next meeting for like 2 years, and then their neighbor sued the church for using his air and light. He lost.
16:16 mmorgan :)
16:16 mmorgan Gordon College - Another great library (though I might be biased) ;-)
16:16 Dyrcona :)
16:19 Dyrcona They're all great libraries.
16:19 mmorgan Indeed!
16:32 StomproJ mmorgan, I have something working for saving the call number attributes, I commented on bug 1983156
16:32 pinesol Launchpad bug 1983156 in Evergreen "Allow Call Number attributes in Item Templates option gone" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1983156 - Assigned to Michele Morgan (mmorgan)
16:33 mmorgan StomproJ: Awesome! Thanks, I'll have a look!
16:33 mmorgan StomproJ++
16:35 Bmagic is anyone available to give this code a looksy? Dyrcona berick StomproJ mmorgan eeevil? commit 5ef0ba5c21edd5e396f0b0806fea92b991999875  Particularly the JS code that reads the library setting from the database. The patch is installed on https://bugsquash2.mobiusconsortium.org  -  I can see the affected templates with the angular "if" statements, but it's not hiding the barcode box
16:37 Bmagic https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen​.git;a=blobdiff;f=Open-ILS/web/js/ui/default/staff​/circ/checkin/app.js;h=c688823b3d071475a9a3d020fdf​5bd11cc284f55;hp=0cf3439b09997b524d1df70d24256aa05​f438f69;hb=5ef0ba5c21edd5e396f0b0806fea92b99199987​5;hpb=afcd1cd8b5aa29af8e83c710106d0d0748e1403e
16:37 Bmagic setting['ui.circ.hide_patron_strict_barcode'] is null after egCore.org.settings('ui.circ.​hide_patron_strict_barcode'). What gives?
16:40 eeevil so, settings() expects an array, I think. look just below at the suppress_checkin_popups call
16:40 eeevil (and you could just combine those two settings calls into one. and... really should)
16:40 Bmagic we checked into that. It's ok to pass it a non-array, there's JS code under the covers that converts it
16:41 Bmagic plus, I tried passing it as an array and that didn't fix it
16:41 Dyrcona Does the setting exist in the database? Is it set for the current org_unit?
16:41 Bmagic yeah, it exists in the DB, and it's set at CONS atm
16:42 mmorgan Bmagic: It looks like a name mismatch to me after a quick look. ui.circ.hide_patron_strict_barcode vs. circ.hide_patron_strict_barcode
16:43 eeevil mmorgan: the other Hard Thing in compsci! :)
16:43 mmorgan looks like circ.hide_patron_strict_barcode is the setting, but the code is looking for ui.circ.hide_patron_strict_barcode
16:43 Dyrcona mmorgan++
16:43 eeevil mmorgan++
16:43 Bmagic no way! OMG
16:43 Dyrcona It's always the little details.
16:43 eeevil Bmagic: but really, please combine that and the next one into one call to the server
16:43 StomproJ mmorgan++, nice pattern matching.
16:44 Dyrcona Bmagic: Also, what eeevil said.
16:44 Bmagic mmorgan++
16:44 mmorgan Dev console: core.bundle.js:1 No server setting type exists for ui.circ.hide_patron_strict_barcode
16:44 * mmorgan should quit while ahead!!
16:45 Bmagic Dyrcona eeevil: sure! Combining it! Though, scottangel is the dev on this one. It is just one setting. Or at least it should be just one setting
16:47 Dyrcona You can get as many settings as you like in one call and up to a point it is more efficient than getting them individually.
16:48 Bmagic I'm slowly realizing what you're saying. You're saying: edit the pre-existing code that gets a setting and drop our setting in the array, in order to cut back on the trips to the server
16:49 Dyrcona Yeah. Exactly.
16:51 Bmagic roger that
16:54 Dyrcona I'd say get it working first, then have scottangel combine the code.
16:59 Bmagic I updated the setting name in the database on bugsquash2, and violla, like magic, it worked
17:01 Dyrcona Well, is changing the setting name in the database the right solution or should the JS code be changed to use the setting name that was in the database?
17:01 Bmagic I did that just as a proof of concept. The setting name needs to be updated anyways. We don't like "patron" being in the name
17:02 Dyrcona OK. Sounds good to me. I'm signing out.
17:02 Dyrcona Have a great weekend, everyone!
17:02 Bmagic I think "ui" should be part of the setting name. Other settings use that convention
17:05 pinesol News from commits: LP2031935 - Update webservices page with Z39.50 and OAI-PMH <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=24cad8​bca4c10d236fe714648fc05103361fc4cd>
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