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IRC log for #evergreen, 2023-08-01

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09:44 Stompro I really need an "Explain it like I'm 5yo" for the visibility mask stuff.  It just seems magical at this point.
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10:34 Bmagic Stompro++
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11:56 Stompro Our state (Minnesota) just announced that we are going with Reshare and vufind through Index Data for our state wide ILL resource sharing system, going live hopefully before July 2024.  I'm hopeful we can get NCIP working with it.
12:01 Bmagic Stompro++ # nice!
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12:01 Bmagic we're also doing that, but we're having it developed a bit more to meet our consortial needs
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12:03 Bmagic We changed the softare so much, we had to fork it and change the name. The ReShare folks didn't want our changes to merge back
12:03 Stompro Bmagic, we are working with Index Data to add Sip2 support since many ILS systems don't support the NCIP password auth.
12:04 Bmagic Stompro++ that's awesome. The more that use it, the better it gets. We love ReShare over here. I joined the dev team more than a year ago and contributed some stuff to help new devs onboard quicker
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12:05 Stompro Bmagic, I think I've seen some of the development notes about Mobius and ReShare when I was researching.
12:05 Bmagic yep, we're all over it
12:05 Bmagic (I mean, excited to use it)
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12:07 Bmagic we're by no means a major contributer. Just being clear. We have contracted with a software development firm to code the changes that we need. Making it more like what our members are used to with INNReach. No double checkin/checkout. No one needs to even know that Reshare is happening in the background
12:07 Dyrcona Stompro: There really isn't NCIP password authentication.
12:08 Dyrcona Not in the "standard" anyway.
12:11 Stompro Bmagic, is that the Direct Consortium Borrowing Mode you mentioned to me at the conference?
12:11 Dyrcona I guess there's "AuthenticationInput" but not much about what to do if it fails, so most implementations punt and hope you've implemented key authentication
12:11 Bmagic Stompro: yep
12:12 Stompro Bmagic, so is that a new API endpoint that an Evergreen instance would run?
12:12 Bmagic The project took on a new name: OpenRS
12:14 Bmagic Stompro: no, Evergreen would be "talked to" via NCIP just like the other ILS's that it's compatible with. But, right now, Evergreen isn't supported. It's low on the priority list since we're on a tight timeline to have it up and running by next summer. It needs to be Sierra and Polaris 100% compatible first and foremost
12:14 * Dyrcona has 5 documents describing a "Direct Consortial Borrowing Profile."
12:16 Stompro Dyrcona, I think the AuthenticationInput method is what I got working.
12:17 Dyrcona With Evergreen's NCIP? Did you submit a patch for that (that I haven't reviewed, yet)? ;)
12:17 Bmagic Stompro: OpenRS is using ILS API's to accomplish what we're needing accomplished.
12:17 Stompro Dyrcona, Yes, I think so.  Let me double check.
12:18 Dyrcona I know you've submitted patches that I haven't reviewed, yet. (I'm also not too fond of patrons handing out their passwords to other vendors. It would be nice if we could use some kind of OAUTH token.)
12:19 * Dyrcona pops out to grab some lunch.
12:19 Stompro I didn't put a pull request tag on it, since there has been no real world testing .
12:19 Stompro Bug 2018615
12:19 pinesol Launchpad bug 2018615 in NCIPServer "Add password auth checking to LookupUser service" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2018615
12:20 Stompro Bmagic, is OpenRS the name for the Reshare fork... or the name for the DCB project?
12:20 Bmagic it's both the Reshare fork and the name of the DCB project
12:20 Bmagic ReShare voted to force us to fork it. Not merge it back
12:21 Stompro Thanks, just wanted to make sure I understood.
12:24 Stompro OAUTH support would be great, does the evergreen side of that exist now, for Evergreen to be the ... supplier.  I forgot the term.
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13:00 jeffdavis EG doesn't have OAuth support yet. It would be the "authorization server" (or "identity provider"), I think. We've talked about it off and on for awhile but I don't know how many library vendors support it yet?
13:09 Dyrcona Well, I'd like to see OAuth go both ways, maybe....
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22:57 tester hi can i request a sandbox server to play with the software?
22:57 tester im a tester previously
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