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08:28 Stompro rhamby_, Thanks, I'll check in with her about my question.
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08:55 Dyrcona JBoyer: Question about the dev meeting agenda: Is "The business of running these things" about running the dev meetings?
08:59 JBoyer It is.
09:06 csharp_ rhamby_: Stompro: the PINES staff have been at out-of-town meetings this week, so there will probably be a delay
09:08 Stompro csharp_, thanks
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09:16 rhamby_ csharp_ I'll resist pinging you on the many things :)
09:24 rfrasur Am I missing something obvious about finding where the user that cancelled a hold is located?
09:29 mmorgan rfrasur: We only have the cancel cause. If you're talking about staff forced, see bug 1963541
09:29 pinesol Launchpad bug 1963541 in Evergreen "Staff-forced Hold cancelation leaves no trace of staff who did it " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1963541 - Assigned to Chris Sharp (chrissharp123)
09:30 rfrasur That's it.  Thank you!
09:32 gmcharlt I discovered that the import of the master branch into bzr for LP's translation purposes has not been working since 2022-04-18
09:32 gmcharlt I've kicked off a manual import
09:33 rfrasur gmcharlt++
09:33 gmcharlt if not, may need to to recreate the bzr copy of Evergreen master (not that that's a big deal)
09:33 Dyrcona gmcharlt++
09:34 gmcharlt Dyrcona: and that will regardless be another minor detail to attend to when the branch renaming happens
09:35 Dyrcona gmcharlt: Noted. I'm finding other things that will need to be done along the way. I'm keeping notes.
09:35 pinesol News from commits: Translation updates - newpot - main branch <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a3341​fb8d63c352fc6aca7b2ac7a22329d9196c>
09:36 Dyrcona On the plus side, we haven't moved to GitHub or GitLab, yet, so we don't have to worry about pull requests against the master branch.
09:36 gmcharlt indeed
09:37 Dyrcona csharp_++ for suggesting that we wait to do the changes on June 1. This gives us time to experiment and work out issues.
09:52 csharp_ Dyrcona: awesome
09:53 Stompro tlittle++ she found the missing 2022 conference videos.  Track 2 was recorded as one long take, so they need to be split up.
09:55 rfrasur csharp_, see PM if you can.
09:56 rfrasur (please)
09:58 Dyrcona Fun factoid: On May 26, it will be eleven years ago that we set up gitolite. gmcharlt++
09:58 gmcharlt feels like yesterday!
09:58 gmcharlt (not really)
09:58 Dyrcona Heh
09:59 * Dyrcona will sign out soonish. I'm waiting on my car at the dealership: routine maintenance and a few minor repairs.
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10:35 pinesol News from commits: LP2018208 Empty alt for result record images, icons <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=9aa747​894e3caa84c4ec4fd406eda9973ac926be>
10:59 gmcharlt noting that the bzr branches for translations for Evergreen's main series has been sorted out
10:59 gmcharlt at this point, just awaiting LP's daily translation export for main
10:59 mmorgan gmcharlt++
11:17 csharp_ gmcharlt++
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12:18 kmlussier @later tell Dyrcona Looking at the masslnc git repo, I see that there was some code with NOBLE tpac customizations. I see that they are still using tpac, so I would just want to be sure they aren't still using that repo to track those customizations. I don't think they are, but don't want to assume. Otherwise, I see no reason to keep it.
12:18 pinesol kmlussier: The operation succeeded.
12:18 kmlussier mmorgan ^^
12:19 mmorgan kmlussier++
12:20 * mmorgan will take a look
12:20 kmlussier mmorgan: Thanks!
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12:26 kmlussier Aside from that, the masslnc syrup repo and the vmscripts can certainly go. I will mourn the loss of those vmscripts. We spent a lot of quality time together.
12:35 Dyrcona :)
13:11 jeffdavis In Item Status Detail View, "Total Circs - Current Year" and "Total Circs - Prev Year" are incorrectly showing as 0 in my environment
13:14 jeffdavis looks like the underlying API call is returning the year as a string in some environments, which breaks the year-based math that the JS code does
13:21 jeffdavis seems weird, the year value is EXTRACT'ed from a timestamp so ought to be numeric, not sure why pcrud is returning it as a string in some environments
13:22 jeffdavis it is broken for us on servers using a Postgres 14 database, servers using PG 9.6 are unaffected - not sure if that is the salient difference though
13:22 JBoyer Because perl gonna perl, I believe. I think there have been cases where this was "fixed" by doing something like $var = 0 + $var at strategic points.
13:23 jeffdavis perl, eh? hmm
13:23 JBoyer Last I saw it, anyway. The difference in Pg version is an unexpected wrinkle.
13:23 JBoyer (but like you said, it *shouldn't* matter)
13:37 jeffdavis yep, confirmed that pointing at a PG14 server vs PG9.6 server is what makes the difference
13:45 jeffdavis reported to Launchpad - bug 2018534
13:45 pinesol Launchpad bug 2018534 in Evergreen "Incorrect total circs for current/previous year in Item Status" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2018534
13:47 JBoyer Looks like EXTRACT returns a double in 9.6 and numeric in 14. I wouldn't expect numerics to be made into strings, but I wonder if that's the deal. If it's a function you can easily change in the db you might try changing EXTRACT to the equivalent date_part (still returns a double in 14) to see if that makes it a string again.
13:49 jeffdavis I'll give that a try. The function is defined in fieldmapper so even easier to change than that :)
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13:56 jeffdavis JBoyer++ # that works!
13:57 jeffdavis not sure if that should be the permanent fix or if we should do something in JS to convert to a number if needed
13:59 berick foo + Number(bar) or similar happens quite a bit in the JS
13:59 berick just comes w/ the territory
14:00 jeff just found an hp lovecraft easter egg in a Bibliotheca support video.
14:00 jeff amused.
14:02 jeff it's a 43 second video on "if there are problems with tags"
14:02 jeff one of the items is read as "UNKNOWN ITEM", and they clearly demonstrate that the item is from another library, and therefore does not have a record in your local ILS.
14:07 jeff the bookplate indicates the other library: ARKHAM LIBRARY SPECIAL COLLECTIONS, MISKATONIC VNIVERSITATIS
14:18 JBoyer Yeah, I lean toward applying berick's fix in the JS because the perl layer has caused this issue before, so we may as well not wait for that mole to pop up anywhere else.
14:19 JBoyer (And extract is the preferred way to do things, date_part is still double in case it's required.)
14:24 jeffdavis sounds good, working on a branch for that now
14:27 jeffdavis jeff: not sure the SIP protocol can handle whatever barcode Miskatonic U assigns to the Necronomicon
14:48 JBoyer jeffdavis++
14:50 Dyrcona pcrud is C.
14:51 JBoyer Finally something SIP is uniquely suited for; saving us from exposure to true madness. Alas, it does its best to convert otherwise valid text into a frightful approximation.
14:51 JBoyer Dyrcona, oh, right. staff client. Maybe pcrud doesn't know what the numeric type is?
14:56 berick in the land of multiple langs and JSON, the onus is really on the consumer to massage the data.
14:56 berick it's the only way to guarantee anything
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15:19 Stompro \msg Bmagic thanks for telling me about ReShare and the Direct Consortium Borrowing mode.  I just checked and that is one of the products our state ILL system is considering.
15:20 Dyrcona Stompro: You want /msg, but you might have figured that out by now.
15:20 Bmagic Stompro: sweet
15:20 Stompro haha, yep.  No worries.
15:21 * Dyrcona calls it a day, mostly.
15:27 jmurray-isl Stompro: Indiana is also considering ReShare, but it wouldn't be implemented until Fall '24.
15:32 Stompro jmurray-isl, I think we are on close to the same schedule.
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16:24 mmorgan @later tell Dyrcona that the noble branches in the masslnc git repo don't need to be retained.
16:24 pinesol mmorgan: The operation succeeded.
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