<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en">
<head>
<meta name="description" content="IRC LOG for channel #evergreen" />
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/s/style.css" title="Irclog Stylesheet" />
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="/s/favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon" />
<link rel="canonical"
href="/evergreen/2023-03-21" />
<title>IRC log for #evergreen, 2023-03-21</title>
</head>
<body>
<p><a href="http://evergreen-ils.org/"><img style="float:right; border:none"
src="/s/small_logo.jpg" alt="Evergreen ILS Website"/></a></p>
<h1>IRC log for #evergreen, 2023-03-21</h1>
<p>
<a href="/evergreen/2023-03-20" rel="prev">
← Previous day</a> |
<a href="/">Channels</a> |
<a href="/evergreen/">#evergreen index</a> |
<a href="/evergreen/today">Today</a> |
<a href="/evergreen/2023-03-22" rel="next">
Next day →</a> |
<a href="/evergreen/search">Search</a> |
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Airc.evergreen-ils.org+inurl%3Aevergreen">Google Search</a>
| <a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21/text">Plain-Text</a> |
<a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21/summary">summary</a>
| <a href="https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=evergreen">Join Webchat</a>
</p>
<p>All times shown according to the server's local time.</p>
<div>
<span style="display: none;" id="filter_toggle"></span>
<span id="summary_container" />
</div>
<form action="#" name="summary_form" id="summary_form">
<span id="top" />
<table id="log" style="clear:both">
<tr class="head">
<th>Time</th>
<th>Nick</th>
<th>Message</th>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l2" class="new special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522872"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522872">01:31</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">StomproJ joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l3" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522873"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522873">07:34</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">collum joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l4" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522874"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522874">07:34</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">kworstell-isl joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l5" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522875"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522875">07:58</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">BDorsey joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l6" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522876"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522876">08:33</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">mmorgan joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l7" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522877"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522877">08:47</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">rfrasur joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l8" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522878"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522878">08:53</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">dguarrac joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l9" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522879"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522879">09:00</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">Dyrcona joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l10" class="new nick nick_Bmagic">
<td class="time" id="i_522880"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522880">10:08</a></td>
<td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td>
<td class="msg ">I would like to double check here before I make this assumption. Limit sets. Evergreen will respect a limit set quantity of already-checked out items based up on the circulation modifier OR* the shelving location. In other words, if an already-checked-out item has the same circ mod as the limit set but a different shelving location, it will still debit the allowed limit?</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l11" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic">
<td class="time" id="i_522881"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522881">10:08</a></td>
<td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td>
<td class="msg ">I'm using the SQL logic to inform me. Snippet:</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l12" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic">
<td class="time" id="i_522882"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522882">10:08</a></td>
<td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td>
<td class="msg ">AND (copy.circ_modifier IN (SELECT circ_mod FROM config.circ_limit_set_circ_mod_map WHERE limit_set = circ_limit_set.id)</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l13" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic">
<td class="time" id="i_522883"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522883">10:08</a></td>
<td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td>
<td class="msg ">OR copy.location IN (SELECT copy_loc FROM config.circ_limit_set_copy_loc_map WHERE limit_set = circ_limit_set.id)</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l14" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic">
<td class="time" id="i_522884"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522884">10:08</a></td>
<td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td>
<td class="msg ">OR aclgm.limit_group IN (SELECT limit_group FROM config.circ_limit_set_group_map WHERE limit_set = circ_limit_set.id)</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l15" class="cont nick nick_Bmagic">
<td class="time" id="i_522885"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522885">10:08</a></td>
<td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td>
<td class="msg ">);</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l16" class="new nick nick_jeff dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522886"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522886">10:44</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">without looking into it too deeply, i note that the "aclgm" there is action.circulation_limit_group_map, which is where circulations can be "tagged" with a limit group. that tagging is done based on config/rules at checkout time (i don't know if it updates at renewal, but it likely may). if you're making use of any "Linked Limit Groups", any existing circs will likely not pick up the changes. depending on</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l17" class="cont nick nick_jeff dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522887"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522887">10:44</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">your specific scenario, that may or may not impact you.</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l18" class="cont nick nick_jeff dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522888"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522888">10:44</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">"without looking into it too deeply"... [proceeds to type more than fits in a single IRC message]</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l19" class="cont nick nick_jeff dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522889"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522889">10:46</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">if you have zero rows in action.circulation_limit_group_map or config.circ_limit_group, then you should not be affected.</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l20" class="cont nick nick_jeff dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522890"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522890">10:47</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">(and/or -- if you have zero in one but not the other, I wonder) :-)</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l21" class="cont nick nick_jeff dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522891"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522891">10:57</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">(and yes, having "circ limit groups" and "circ limit sets" is a bit of an unfortunate naming similarity)</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l22" class="cont nick nick_jeff dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522892"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522892">11:04</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">oh, and i see now that i misinterpreted your question anyway. sorry!</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l23" class="new nick nick_Dyrcona">
<td class="time" id="i_522893"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522893">11:10</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">I used to know how that stuff worked, but that was a long time ago, now.</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l24" class="new nick nick_jeff dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522894"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522894">11:15</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">Bmagic: I believe the answer to the question you were actually asking is yes, and I believe you got there already. I suspect that creative use of limit groups could do the "circ mod AND location" thing, if you were so inclined. There may be sharp edges.</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l25" class="new special">
<td class="time" id="i_522895"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522895">11:15</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">mantis1 joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l26" class="new nick nick_Bmagic dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522896"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522896">11:15</a></td>
<td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td>
<td class="msg ">jeff: awesome, thanks</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l27" class="new nick nick_jeff">
<td class="time" id="i_522897"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522897">11:18</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">you're welcome!</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l28" class="new special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522898"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522898">11:57</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">Christineb joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l29" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522899"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522899">12:05</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">jihpringle joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l30" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522900"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522900">12:37</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">jvwoolf joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l31" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522901"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522901">12:53</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">mantis2 joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l32" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522902"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522902">14:00</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">dguarrac_ joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l33" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522903"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522903">15:55</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">jvwoolf left #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l34" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522904"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522904">15:56</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">jihpringle joined #evergreen</td>
</tr>
<tr id="id_l35" class="cont special dark">
<td class="time" id="i_522905"><a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21#i_522905">17:15</a></td>
<td style="color: #ad7900" class="nick"></td>
<td class="msg ">mmorgan left #evergreen</td>
</tr>
</table>
</form>
<span id="bottom" />
<p>
<a href="/evergreen/2023-03-20" rel="prev">
← Previous day</a> |
<a href="/">Channels</a> |
<a href="/evergreen/">#evergreen index</a> |
<a href="/evergreen/today">Today</a> |
<a href="/evergreen/2023-03-22" rel="next">
Next day →</a> |
<a href="/evergreen/search">Search</a> |
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Airc.evergreen-ils.org+inurl%3Aevergreen">Google Search</a>
| <a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21/text">Plain-Text</a> |
<a href="/evergreen/2023-03-21/summary">summary</a>
| <a href="https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=evergreen">Join Webchat</a>
</p>
<div id="footer">
<p>Powered by <a href="http://moritz.faui2k3.org/en/ilbot">ilbot</a>.
<strong>Any questions? Ask bshum in #evergreen on irc.libera.chat</strong></p>
<p>
Evergreen is open source software, freely
licensed under <a href="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html"
target="_blank">GNU GPLv2</a> or later.<br /> The <a
href="http://evergreen-ils.org/blog/?p=583" target="_blank">Evergreen Project is
a member</a> of <a href="http://sfconservancy.org/" target="_blank">Software
Freedom Conservancy</a>.
</p>
</div>
<script type="text/javascript" src="/s/jquery.min.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
IlbotConfig = {
base_url: '/',
channel: 'evergreen',
day: '2023-03-21',
still_today: false
};
</script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="/s/dynamic.js"></script>
</body>
</html>
<!-- -->