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10:11 csharp_ @decide cut or awk
10:11 pinesol csharp_: go with cut
10:11 csharp_ pinesol: usually use awk
10:11 pinesol csharp_: Sorry, we can't do that because, you know, SOFTWARE.
10:12 csharp_ pinesol: but awk IS software
10:12 pinesol csharp_: PHRASING!!!
10:12 mmorgan @who is going to cut off pinesol's caffeine supply?
10:12 pinesol rhamby is going to cut off pinesol's caffeine supply.
10:13 csharp_ @coffee pinesol
10:13 mmorgan rhamby: Good luck!
10:13 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of El Salvador Finca Siberia Pacamara, and sends it sliding down the bar to pinesol
10:13 rhamby excuse me while I start planning my escape to a non-extradition nation
10:13 csharp_ @dunno add excuse me while I start planning my escape to a non-extradition nation
10:13 pinesol csharp_: The operation succeeded.  Dunno #77 added.
10:15 Dyrcona @decide sed or awk
10:15 pinesol Dyrcona: That's a tough one...
10:15 csharp_ use both!
10:15 Dyrcona I don't use awk much to be honest.
10:16 csharp_ I use sed for like three things and awk for like two things so I end up with lots of blah | awk '{print $1' | sed 's/bl//g'
10:17 csharp_ basically I use awk for things cut does and probably for things perl would do better :-)
10:17 Dyrcona I use sed quit a bit, often on its own.
10:17 Dyrcona Yeah, Perl is basically an improved awk.
10:18 csharp_ whenever I need awk/sed to do something more complex, I usually turn to perl
10:19 csharp_ which is why perl was invented, of course
10:19 Dyrcona Yeah, I definitely use Perl more than I use awk.
10:19 csharp_ but I cut my programming teeth on sys-admin-oriented bash, so I followed that path to perl and then others
10:22 Dyrcona To be honest, I generally don't think of using awk. I often end up crafting convoluted pipelines or shell functions to do what might have been 1 line in awk or Perl.
10:26 * Dyrcona makes a note to practice with awk more.
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11:06 rhamby Dyrcona - I'm in the same awk boat.  I use it but mostly in simple ways or little things I've picked up.  I should learn it in more depth.
11:09 csharp_ @decide bug squashing or bug squishing
11:09 pinesol csharp_: go with bug squishing
11:15 pinesol News from commits: LP#1706664 - This adds Mark Item docs <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=72c066​27d74730a1e132709584bee0847cf8cd19>
11:24 Stompro I kind of love the bug squashing week scoreboard, I wish there was a live announcer covering it.
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11:29 Dyrcona Heh.
11:30 Dyrcona I find it difficult to keep working branches synced with the changes, but that's a good problem to have. :)
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11:36 jeff I'm fairly certain it would be difficult to track down my largest awk script from a... number of years ago. It dealt with RADIUS accounting logs in some useful ways.
11:37 jeff I would probably not use awk for the entire thing again. I don't remember why I did at the time. It may have been as a challenge to see if I could.
11:38 jeff Either that, or there was some resource/dependency constraint that made awk the better option for the job at the time.
11:45 pinesol News from commits: LP#1999401 release note <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=778e50​40051d7ec4af2b059c1633042f9ba79c01>
11:45 pinesol News from commits: LP1999401: Don't override magic statuses from holdings editor templates <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6aae7​1ea39b66d39d9af601d1117fdf41bb9250>
11:45 pinesol News from commits: LP1999401: Don't apply magic statuses from holdings editor templates <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=1bbcd4​a38dd28d06c5055c74152370ef6ab8d5ca>
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12:15 pinesol News from commits: LP#2007351: fix the MARC editor heading linker for certain fields <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ecef4​95d8268fdc966778e47309f326f32281e1>
12:32 Dyrcona Argh. Acquisitions is kind of a mess. The fk relationships with fund_debit don't all go the way I thought they would.
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13:55 csharp_ Dyrcona: I feel your pain - I rarely have to touch acq nowadays, but whenever I do I have to learn it all over again
13:57 * jeff finds a psql shell with only "SELECT COUNT" in the input buffer
13:57 jeff "clearly, Watson, the user was trying to count something... but what?"
14:06 csharp_ heh
14:08 jeffdavis the database is starting to feel cluttered, I should check if there are too many things in there
14:08 csharp_ ah ah ah three actor.org_units!
14:09 jeffdavis *Bach organ intro* *crash of thunder*
14:09 Dyrcona :)
14:10 Dyrcona Wait...what?
14:11 Dyrcona du -sh . 178M OK..... run `git gc` du -sh . 1.9G ummm. I didn't think it was supposed to work like that.
14:13 Dyrcona Maybe I need a git prune.
14:15 * Dyrcona is experimenting... I found that you can fetch branches from unrelated repositories today, but that seems to bloat the repo if you delete the branches later.
14:18 Dyrcona Whoa.... Doing git prune -v after git gc dropped it to 200K.
14:19 Dyrcona That's smaller than the repo was before I started with the fetch.
14:20 * Dyrcona wonders if somehow the git gc pulls in the entire foreign repository.....
14:36 * miker is convinced that /everything/ git does can be summed up by the phrase "somehow the git ..."
14:36 Dyrcona :)
14:36 Dyrcona I think it's time to play some Monkees.... If you git it, you might have gray hair...
14:43 Dyrcona So, yeah. I think I'll fetch a couple of branches from other repos into my demo repo and push them to GitHub so that if people want to experiment, then they can clone this repo and follow along.
14:44 Dyrcona This way, I won't have to switch repositories and the steps should be repeatable for others.
14:45 csharp_ @band add Git Prune
14:45 pinesol csharp_: Band 'Git Prune' added to list
14:46 Dyrcona "Why don't you cut your hair? Why don't you live up there?" :)
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16:32 Stompro Should I be re-creating my test db between perl live test runs?  It seems like certain tests fail the second time it is run.
16:36 phasefx that's the intention yeah, since we didn't build everything to work with mock environments
16:37 phasefx some of the tests do try to clean up after themselves :-/
16:38 Stompro Thanks, makes sense to me.
16:39 phasefx you're welcome
16:42 phasefx the live tester is going all the way and refreshing to a pristine VM every night
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