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Dyrcona |
I'm just curious: Is anyone else experiencing issues with GMail today? |
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jvwoolf |
Dyrcona: I got signed out once, but I seem to be OK now |
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* jvwoolf |
knocks on wood |
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Dyrcona |
Well, the getting signed out is a weekly thing, I think. I guess the admin can set that. |
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Dyrcona |
None of our internal mail seems to be working since sometime yesterday. |
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Dyrcona |
@blame The Migration |
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pinesol |
Dyrcona: The Migration crafted the perfect SHA-1 collision, breaking Git |
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Dyrcona |
@band add The Migration |
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pinesol |
Dyrcona: Band 'The Migration' added to list |
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Dyrcona |
@blame search email |
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pinesol |
Dyrcona: No matching blames were found. |
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Dyrcona |
Does anyone have a query handy to count grouped events, so that all of the events with the same group field value are counted as one? |
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Dyrcona |
OK, so looks like a generic query would not be too terrible. In my case, I can join the target to action.circulation and count distinct on circ.usr. |
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JBoyer |
Dev meeting in ~30. |
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JBoyer |
Hello Evergreen. |
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JBoyer |
#startmeeting 2022-10-11 - Developer Meeting |
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pinesol |
Meeting started Tue Oct 11 15:00:45 2022 US/Eastern. The chair is JBoyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to '2022_10_11___developer_meeting' |
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JBoyer |
#info Agenda at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2022-10-11 |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
#topic Introductions |
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JBoyer |
#info JBoyer - Jason Boyer, Equinox |
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berick |
#info berick - Bill Erickson, KCLS |
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shulabear |
#info shulabear - Shula Link, GCHRL in PINES |
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mmorgan |
#info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE |
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collum |
#info collum - Garry Collum, KCPL |
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gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, Equinox |
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sandbergja |
#info sandbergja = Jane Sandberg |
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csharp_ |
#info csharp = Chris Sharp, GPLS |
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abneiman |
#info abneiman = Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox |
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miker |
#info miker = Mike Rylander, EOLI |
| 15:03 |
JBoyer |
Ok, folks can drop an #info if they filter in later. |
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JBoyer |
#topic Action Items from Last Meeting |
| 15:03 |
JBoyer |
#info JBoyer will take a look at LP 1979357 |
| 15:03 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1979357 in Evergreen "fixes for qatester failures" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1979357 |
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JBoyer |
Well, the good news is that 1 or 2 of those patches can be ignored if the "drop Stretch" changes go in, and the Locales one does appear to be missing on more recent distros. I'll try to make time to finally put that to bed soon. |
| 15:05 |
Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CWMARS |
| 15:05 |
JBoyer |
#info sandbergja will followup with berick about timing re: merging the new linter |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
sandbergja, I've not done a great job of keeping track of the email lists, how has this gone? |
| 15:06 |
sandbergja |
berick and I emailed about it, and it got merged! |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
berick++ |
| 15:06 |
mmorgan |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
Ok then, speaking of merges |
| 15:06 |
mmorgan |
berick++ |
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berick |
sandbergja++ # indeed |
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JBoyer |
#topic Evergreen Release Updates |
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JBoyer |
#info 3.9.1 & 3.8.2 planned for 10/19 - abneiman & jihpringle will be doing release notes Monday 10/17 so please get your merges in before then if possible |
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shulabear |
sandberja++ |
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sandbergja |
abneiman++ |
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sandbergja |
jihpringle++ |
| 15:07 |
gmcharlt |
noting that I see three that I will be merging today as high priority |
| 15:07 |
gmcharlt |
namely 1821950, 1986479, and 1982887 |
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gmcharlt |
er, not 1821950 |
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gmcharlt |
the third I meant is 1989209 |
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JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ |
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JBoyer |
#info 3.10 Roadmap - several of these are PR'd & would be nice to merge before slush 10/21 |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
sandbergja, anything to add? |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
#link https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap:3.10 |
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sandbergja |
nothing from me. terranm41 or mmorgan? |
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abneiman |
that was actually my item :) and it was a self-serving request I added a bunch of Equinox's stuff to the roadmap last week. |
| 15:11 |
terranm41 |
Sorry, I was having issues |
| 15:11 |
mmorgan |
Any help appreciated!! |
| 15:11 |
abneiman |
*because I added |
| 15:11 |
JBoyer |
oops! |
| 15:11 |
JBoyer |
abneiman++ |
| 15:12 |
JBoyer |
I saw the list of who made edits, but did not look at what edits they actually made. :) |
| 15:12 |
abneiman |
and sandbergja++ for the Queued Ingest review session last week |
| 15:12 |
JBoyer |
But in any case, lots of good stuff with signoffs to check out. |
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JBoyer |
Any other Eg Release Updates tha tdidn't make the agenda? |
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JBoyer |
ok |
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JBoyer |
#topic Launchpad Status |
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JBoyer |
#info Snapshot |
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JBoyer |
#info Open Bugs - 2874 |
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JBoyer |
#info Pullrequests - 79' |
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JBoyer |
#info Signedoff - 73 |
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JBoyer |
#info Updates Since Last Meeting |
| 15:14 |
JBoyer |
#info Bugs Added - 40 |
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JBoyer |
#info Pullrequest tag Added - 24 |
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JBoyer |
#info Signedoff tag Added - 33 |
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JBoyer |
#info Fix Committed - 27 |
| 15:14 |
mmorgan |
Successful Feedback Fest! |
| 15:15 |
JBoyer |
mmorgan++ |
| 15:15 |
JBoyer |
terranm41++ |
| 15:15 |
mmorgan |
terranm41++ |
| 15:15 |
JBoyer |
#topic New Business |
| 15:15 |
terranm41 |
There's a cataloging one I need to add to the Roadmap - on my phone right now, but it's the one to allow catalogers to add items without call number labels as long as they have a prefix |
| 15:16 |
gmcharlt |
bug 1821950 |
| 15:16 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1821950 in Evergreen "Web Client: Call Number Labels should not be required in the Copy Editor" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821950 |
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shulabear |
terranm41++ |
| 15:16 |
terranm41 |
gmcharlt++ |
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gmcharlt |
terranm41: I'm adding that now |
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terranm41 |
Thx!! |
| 15:17 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ |
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* miker |
managed to be on vacation for the whole 'fest... |
| 15:17 |
JBoyer |
I pasted the New Business tag a little early, but here we go. |
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* shulabear |
contributed but forgot feedback fest was going on so it was just chance. |
| 15:18 |
JBoyer |
#info Javascript dependency vulnerabilities - AngularJS client says "76 vulnerabilities (13 low, 27 moderate, 28 high, 8 critical)" when you run npm install |
| 15:18 |
sandbergja |
Ah, this was mine! |
| 15:18 |
JBoyer |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:18 |
mmorgan |
Also bug 1980409, I'll add that one. |
| 15:18 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1980409 in Evergreen "Call Number Labels should not be required in the Angular Holdings Editor" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1980409 |
| 15:19 |
sandbergja |
I think it's come up before. There are a lot of known vulnerabilities in our javascript dependencies. |
| 15:19 |
JBoyer |
Updating everything that has fixes would be good; do many of them require (potentially) breaking changes to update? |
| 15:19 |
gmcharlt |
sandbergja: have you experimented with how much npm audit fix does or does not break things? |
| 15:20 |
sandbergja |
No, I haven't yet. |
| 15:20 |
gmcharlt |
for obvious reasons, I'm kinda hoping that it does turn into "let's try Angular 14 for the back branches" |
| 15:20 |
gmcharlt |
er, does *not* |
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sandbergja |
I could throw together a branch with npm audit --fix, but it would be nice to have some help testing the results |
| 15:22 |
gmcharlt |
happy to help (and I am actually pretty concerned about the potential for breakage) |
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berick |
sandbergja: is your focus at the moment just on angjs? |
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gmcharlt |
but I may be unduly distrustful of the state of backwards compatibiliy in the NPM ecosystem |
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sandbergja |
berick: yeah, I think so. It seems like the angular team is good at taking care of their dependencies |
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* Dyrcona |
is distrustful of NPM. |
| 15:23 |
sandbergja |
gmcharlt++ |
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berick |
sandbergja: gotcha, thanks |
| 15:23 |
JBoyer |
A quick run just now shows 19 fixed, 18 that require manual review, and 3 that involve breaking changes (and I assume are holding up some others since that math doesn't cut it.) |
| 15:24 |
sandbergja |
I definitely share the concerns about regressions... |
| 15:24 |
Dyrcona |
I've run npm update in the past without ill effects, but not sure if that does what's needed. I've also not done it in a while. |
| 15:24 |
gmcharlt |
sandbergja: certain a gold star to any of use who figures out that we can _remove_ dependencies during the process :) |
| 15:24 |
sandbergja |
If you'll allow me a soapbox for a minute, it sure would be nice if we had more test coverage, so we could just run any automated dependabot PRs against the test suite and get a quick yes/no |
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sandbergja |
about whether it introduces regressions |
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JBoyer |
sandbergja++ gmcharlt++ |
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| 15:27 |
JBoyer |
Any other discussion re: npm security? |
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JBoyer |
Or AngJS, etc. |
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csharp_ |
I'm willing to help with the effort |
| 15:28 |
sandbergja |
csharp_++ |
| 15:28 |
JBoyer |
csharp_++ |
| 15:28 |
gmcharlt |
just wanted to mention something that had come up in a meeting with a few of you recently - if we step back a bit... we've done a LOT towards migrating to Angular |
| 15:28 |
gmcharlt |
so I do think that warrants an IRC collective back-patting |
| 15:28 |
csharp_ |
sandbergja: I'll do some experimentation and will test your branch if you push one |
| 15:29 |
shulabear |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:29 |
sandbergja |
angular++ |
| 15:29 |
terranm |
backpatting++ |
| 15:29 |
shulabear |
csharp_++ |
| 15:29 |
berick |
gmcharlt: agreed. |
| 15:29 |
csharp_ |
+1 |
| 15:30 |
JBoyer |
+1 |
| 15:30 |
sandbergja |
csharp_: sounds good! I can plan to push some kind of collab branch this week |
| 15:30 |
mmorgan |
+1 |
| 15:30 |
csharp_ |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:31 |
JBoyer |
Sounds like there's a way forward there, so we can wrap up here. |
| 15:31 |
JBoyer |
#topic Announcements |
| 15:31 |
JBoyer |
#info Next Meeting is November 8, 2022 |
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JBoyer |
#endmeeting |
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pinesol |
Meeting ended Tue Oct 11 15:31:32 2022 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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pinesol |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2022/evergreen.2022-10-11-15.00.html |
| 15:31 |
pinesol |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2022/evergreen.2022-10-11-15.00.txt |
| 15:31 |
pinesol |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2022/evergreen.2022-10-11-15.00.log.html |
| 15:31 |
JBoyer |
Thanks everybody. |
| 15:31 |
sandbergja |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:31 |
mmorgan |
jBoyer++ |
| 15:31 |
abneiman |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:31 |
shulabear |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:32 |
mmorgan |
er, JBoyer++ |
| 15:32 |
gmcharlt |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:32 |
miker |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:32 |
abneiman |
oh wait - 11/8 is US Election Day - is that still an OK meeting day for people? |
| 15:32 |
terranm |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:33 |
JBoyer |
karma karma karma is case inseeensitiiiiive |
| 15:34 |
* mmorgan |
is fine with 11/8 for the next meeting |
| 15:34 |
mmorgan |
And re: bug 1821950 and bug 1980409, I would favor backporting since it's functionality that existed way back in the xul client |
| 15:34 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1821950 in Evergreen "Web Client: Call Number Labels should not be required in the Copy Editor" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821950 |
| 15:34 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1980409 in Evergreen "Call Number Labels should not be required in the Angular Holdings Editor" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1980409 |
| 15:35 |
csharp_ |
@quote add < JBoyer> karma karma karma is case inseeensitiiiiive |
| 15:35 |
pinesol |
csharp_: The operation succeeded. Quote #231 added. |
| 15:35 |
mrtnnbr |
hello everyone, if you've still got some time, I'd like some opinion about a possible freebsd port I'm working on |
| 15:37 |
Dyrcona |
mrtnnbr: berick and I started working on that very thing a decade ago but gave up. |
| 15:39 |
mrtnnbr |
well, I got both opensrf and evergreen to build, and right now I'm working on adapting the configuration |
| 15:40 |
csharp_ |
mrtnnbr: relevant bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/968531 |
| 15:40 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 968531 in Evergreen "Autoconf: We're Doing It Wrong" [Wishlist,Triaged] |
| 15:40 |
csharp_ |
on a tangential note, I've started using Ansible so now I want everything to move to YAML, including our XML configs |
| 15:40 |
berick |
i think my notes for that are lost to time / retired servers |
| 15:41 |
berick |
csharp_: OK |
| 15:41 |
berick |
:) |
| 15:41 |
csharp_ |
heh |
| 15:41 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 15:41 |
Dyrcona |
working/user/dyrcona/freebsd-compat |
| 15:41 |
Dyrcona |
That's the FreeBSD branch that I picked up from berick. I'll past a link in a second. |
| 15:42 |
mrtnnbr |
csharp_: I didn't run into that particular issue, probably that got fixed along the way |
| 15:42 |
berick |
Dyrcona: oh nice, it all lives |
| 15:42 |
berick |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:42 |
Dyrcona |
mrtnnbr: Some improvements have been made, but we're still doing a lot wrong. |
| 15:43 |
JBoyer |
mrtnnbr, That's something I was also initially interested in (for NetBSD, anyway) what is your question and are your changes available for others to look at yet? :) |
| 15:43 |
csharp_ |
it's been the wrong year, but I want to revive my efforts to support RHEL-ish options too |
| 15:43 |
Dyrcona |
Sounds like you don't need it, but this is where thing were 10 year ago: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/dyrcona/freebsd-compat |
| 15:43 |
* csharp_ |
picked the wrong year to quit sniffing glue |
| 15:43 |
Dyrcona |
Ha! |
| 15:44 |
Dyrcona |
It's always the wrong to quit sniffing glue. :) |
| 15:44 |
Bmagic |
csharp_: 2012? |
| 15:45 |
mrtnnbr |
JBoyer: right now I didn't make any changes to the actual source tree, but I've got functional ports (as in: they build and install) |
| 15:45 |
mrtnnbr |
Dyrcona: thanks |
| 15:45 |
Dyrcona |
Hm. I can't find an OpenSRF branch with "freebsd" in the name. |
| 15:46 |
JBoyer |
Ah, only needed to make changes in the ports tree? That's better than I thought it would be. |
| 15:46 |
csharp_ |
Bmagic: pretty sure that's the year everything went off the rails when the world didn't end |
| 15:46 |
mrtnnbr |
JBoyer: for now, yes |
| 15:47 |
Bmagic |
csharp_: but the wine from that year, today is 10 years aged. So it wasn't that bad after all :) |
| 15:47 |
csharp_ |
:-) |
| 15:47 |
mrtnnbr |
opensrf looks functional, evergreen itself needs some mangling |
| 15:47 |
jeff |
Dyrcona: there is an OpenSRF branch working/collab/berick/bsd-compat |
| 15:48 |
mrtnnbr |
jeff: cool |
| 15:48 |
jeff |
(from 2011-ish) |
| 15:49 |
Dyrcona |
Whoa! dbs had a cmake branch? |
| 15:49 |
Dyrcona |
jeff++ |
| 15:49 |
csharp_ |
@who wants to have their cmake and eat it too? |
| 15:49 |
pinesol |
book` wants to have their cmake and eat it too. |
| 15:50 |
Dyrcona |
https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/OpenSRF.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/collab/berick/bsd-compat |
| 15:50 |
Dyrcona |
For the logs. |
| 15:51 |
mrtnnbr |
my current attempt has the installs for opensrf and evergreen in separate parts of the tree, once I've got the config bit finished I'll see if that breaks stuff very much... |
| 15:52 |
JBoyer |
I suspect it's possible; while they're 2 separate projects they're pretty tightly coupled. (at least in 1 direction.) |
| 15:52 |
Dyrcona |
Well, there was talk of moving OpenSRF in to Evergreen once. |
| 15:53 |
Dyrcona |
No one uses OpenSRF besides Evergreen, afaik. |
| 15:53 |
JBoyer |
For a packaging system (especially if it were ever to be submitted upstream) it may be easiest to install things in the usual system dirs. |
| 15:54 |
mrtnnbr |
in the long run, having some extra options for configure to customise installation paths would make things smoother |
| 15:54 |
mrtnnbr |
JBoyer: yeah, thats what I did |
| 15:54 |
JBoyer |
Do you mean beyond --prefix |
| 15:54 |
JBoyer |
? |
| 15:54 |
Dyrcona |
Well, just following the normal autotools conventions would go a long way. |
| 15:56 |
Dyrcona |
None of us are really autotools experts. |
| 15:57 |
mrtnnbr |
JBoyer: I've misused --localstatedir to put everything web under /usr/local/www/openils, for example |
| 15:59 |
mrtnnbr |
Dyrcona: I still think that autotools were a move into the wrong direction, but I'm afraid that ship has sailed some 30 years ago... |
| 15:59 |
Dyrcona |
mrtnnbr: You want plain Makefiles or something else? |
| 16:00 |
Dyrcona |
imake? :) |
| 16:00 |
JBoyer |
Ah, I see what you mean. One option we may need to consider in future is to segment the builds into smaller chunks so there's something like opensrf-bin libapache2-mod-opensrf, evergreen-bin, evergreen-web, etc. |
| 16:01 |
JBoyer |
I don't dislike autotools too much; what I dislike is recursive make, though the two tend to go hand-in-hand. |
| 16:03 |
Dyrcona |
https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Configuration.html |
| 16:04 |
Dyrcona |
Maybe instead of --localstatedir, you should have abused --htmldir? |
| 16:04 |
pinesol |
News from commits: LP#1989209: SSO Shibboleth logout/re-login <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba13c849f0b4efbe35cb3bc5e61e5e202d61db9b> |
| 16:04 |
pinesol |
News from commits: LP#1986479: (follow-up) do some refactoring <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=00f81042c43491694c4d775b15988c1acb2f9ea3> |
| 16:04 |
pinesol |
News from commits: LP#1986479: fix lookup of user locale during A/T event processing <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ed6ccd7845d5985f7eac56c5e3b1b6b3e259300> |
| 16:04 |
mrtnnbr |
Dyrcona: with reasonably consistent environments system specific Makefiles would be quite neat actually. but I don't think that's going to be realistic to expect. so autotools are not too bad, realistically |
| 16:04 |
JBoyer |
May not matter if our build system won't do the right thing when given --htmldir. |
| 16:05 |
JBoyer |
(though I haven't looked) |
| 16:05 |
Dyrcona |
JBoyer: It won't now, but could if we fixed it so it does. :) |
| 16:05 |
mrtnnbr |
Dyrcona: I was thinking --wwwdir, but that may be bsd bias |
| 16:06 |
Dyrcona |
mrtnnbr: Well, I'm going from the GNU Coding/configuration standards for autotools. |
| 16:06 |
Dyrcona |
I hang out in the BSD camp, too, and there are many over there who despise autotools. |
| 16:09 |
mrtnnbr |
Dyrcona: WWWDIR is the variable name within the ports framework. in my understanding, files there are meant to be served by some kind of web server. --htmldir might be somewhat more general |
| 16:12 |
Dyrcona |
mrtnnbr: htmldir is the variable in autotools, though I guess it is intended for documentation: https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Directory-Variables.html#Directory-Variables |
| 16:12 |
Dyrcona |
If we're using autotools, we should use the autotools conventions. IT would then be up to the FreeBSD port maintainer to map things correctly for ports. |
| 16:13 |
* Dyrcona |
is considering taking over SpamAssassing on FreeBSD. It's currently looking for a maintainer. |
| 16:13 |
Dyrcona |
It's late in the day, and my typing skills are on the fritz.... |
| 16:15 |
Dyrcona |
Autotools doesn't really cover installing HTML files for a website, beyond maybe using localstatedir. I s'pose inventing a new option is not out of the question, but.... |
| 16:15 |
mrtnnbr |
anyway, it looks like there's some interest/curiosity here, so how about I finish configuring my test system and put it online for review. I'll send a a link to -dev |
| 16:17 |
Dyrcona |
OK. I'd like git branches, too. :) |
| 16:28 |
mrtnnbr |
Dyrcona: A quick survey of existing ports shows somewhat even usage of --htmldir, --datadir, and --datarootdir. one of the latter two might be reasonable. |
| 16:30 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah. We have an option to not install the web files, but not one for where. |
| 16:31 |
mrtnnbr |
the overwhelming majority just copies web stuff over, however. |
| 16:32 |
Dyrcona |
As an upstream maintainer, I'm not too concerned with what happens in a particular operating system's packages. I AM interested in making OpenSRF and Evergreen easier to package. We have some ideas, just need to take the time to make the changes. |
| 16:36 |
Dyrcona |
We pretty much just copy the web files into place. They ought to be installed using a target variable in autotools. I think the "cp -R" worked at the time and still mostly works so no one has gone back and made any corrections. |
| 16:36 |
Dyrcona |
There's too much shell code in our M4 if you ask me. |
| 16:38 |
mrtnnbr |
Well, I'm quite confident having a functional port will be possible without any upstream changes. Once that is done it should be clearer what might be needed to make maintaing it easier. |
| 16:40 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, that might help. The question is: Do we add a Makefile.install for the prerequisites, or do we let the port maintainer worry about it? |
| 16:42 |
Dyrcona |
It would be nice to lose the requirement for GNU Make, too. |
| 16:42 |
mrtnnbr |
I think on FreeBSD at least that should be done within ports. |
| 16:42 |
Dyrcona |
Maybe I should add some of these thoughts to my old bug? |
| 16:44 |
mrtnnbr |
Sure, why not. |
| 16:44 |
Dyrcona |
I mostly agree, but then the Evergreen community couldn't support FreeBSD as a first-class option, so it's a question of what our priorities are. |
| 16:49 |
mrtnnbr |
My assumption was that for the time being I would be maintaining the port anyway, even after it is finished. On the plus side, once it has landed there will be ready to install binary packages. |
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| 16:53 |
Dyrcona |
Well, it has long been a goal to get debs available, and PINES did that for a while. Not sure if the debs are being maintained or not. |
| 16:53 |
* Dyrcona |
gives Open-ILS/src/Makefile.am the hairy eyeball.... |
| 16:54 |
berick |
you should get that looked at |
| 16:54 |
Dyrcona |
heh |
| 16:55 |
Dyrcona |
Let me ask the magic meatball.... |
| 16:55 |
Dyrcona |
@eightball |
| 16:55 |
pinesol |
Dyrcona: No clue. |
| 16:55 |
Dyrcona |
Figures. |
| 16:58 |
mrtnnbr |
A little concern would be documentation as well. Assuming binary packages, the installation itself would be borderline trivial, but for the admin side there are enough small (and not so small) differences that it's all too easy to take a wrong turn. |
| 17:00 |
mrtnnbr |
Anyway, thanks for all the input. I'll be off for now. |
| 17:01 |
Bmagic |
laters |
| 17:02 |
Dyrcona |
Bye. |
| 17:02 |
* Dyrcona |
is off the clock but might hangout a while longer. |
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| 17:04 |
pinesol |
News from commits: LP1981628 Third follow-up <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=69154c2a2cc457f92bb643fd7396d9915e203b91> |
| 17:04 |
pinesol |
News from commits: LP1981628 follow-up to the follow-up <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=851b4b5e3dab8d3d259d6cac9cd15d4b3ede938b> |
| 17:04 |
pinesol |
News from commits: LP1981628 Follow up to Stripe payment intents bug <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fc8f1135211485ea97c8463c75fdf7ea5351109> |
| 17:04 |
Dyrcona |
The fun part is going to be keeping up with new staff client and other files as they get added. "Doing things correctly" may require more devs to get their fingers dirty in autotools. |
| 17:05 |
Dyrcona |
"follow-up to the follow-up..." :) "Shortcut to the shortcut..." for those who know. |
| 17:07 |
Dyrcona |
Now that I don't have to manage servers, I should have more time to work on these things. |
| 17:07 |
Dyrcona |
But, the more time didn't quit pan out today. :( |
| 17:07 |
Dyrcona |
s/quit/quite/ |
| 17:14 |
Dyrcona |
No koha in FreeBSD ports. |
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