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10:48 stephengwills query: I stood up a fulfillment server thinking it would be an Evergreen-ILS with something extra.  Should the evergreen part of this behave like an EG 3.6 if I’ve installed it properly?
11:12 Dyrcona @decide administration or cataloging
11:12 pinesol Dyrcona: go with cataloging
11:12 Dyrcona Nah....
11:13 Dyrcona Hmm. is marc_export Administration, Architecture, or Cataloging?
11:15 pinesol News from commits: LP#1947045: add release notes entry <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=44a3cf​0e44973737a188f555c062a81c743d1144>
11:15 pinesol News from commits: LP1947045 Shuffle claiming tabs <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e1a35​4efdd0d8589bdf84b3feb538bc467d30a2>
11:30 Dyrcona Friday is a bad day to try to communicate complex ideas in a simple manner.
11:44 Dyrcona Maybe lunch will help? Having a headache certainly doesn't.
12:01 Dyrcona Yeah, I should have just taken a sick day. I can't even keyboard correctly....Not in Gmail anyway.
12:04 jvwoolf Dyrcona: I hope you feel better
12:05 jvwoolf stephengwills: I know we talked a bit already, but I don't think FF will work as an EG instance because of the way it views org units
12:05 jvwoolf If you do a search in FF based on org unit, you get back results for everything outside of that org unit
12:06 jvwoolf And if you place a hold on an item, in EG you'd want it to target your own items first, but in FF it will target everything BUT your items
12:06 jvwoolf Not sure how that would affect other EG functions, because it's really only meant to be used as an ILL system
12:07 Dyrcona Y'know what my other problem is? No music. I haven't been listening to music this morning.
12:07 Dyrcona jvwoolf++
12:07 * Dyrcona knows next to nothing about FulfILLment...
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12:12 jvwoolf rhamby: Not sure if my claims are something you can confirm or deny :)
12:13 jvwoolf I'd ping miker if he was around
12:16 stephengwills jvwoolf I’m going to need a bigger item dataset and a few more orgs to get this through my thick skull.  It still feels like it is close to what I want. Right now I’m still chewing on when I am ffstaff and when I am egstaff. it feels a little like a tennis match. ;-P. Thanks.
12:20 stephengwills I am loving the ffstaff interface however.  hat tip to da boyz down south for that.
12:24 jvwoolf @band add Da Boyz Down South
12:24 pinesol jvwoolf: Band 'Da Boyz Down South' added to list
12:38 rhamby jvwoolf: I would agree with  your view, also while FF is built on top of a foundation of Evergreen it is modified for ILL purposes and some of that could potentially work counter to normal ILS operations (though I can't think of an example off hand)
12:38 rhamby could you make FF work as an ILS, sure it has a lot of overlap with Evergreen but you'll run into hassles like those pointed out
12:41 rhamby but they do work really well together :)
12:41 rhamby and if a lot of evergreen libraries wanted to run a FF instance with Evergreen I can imagine some dev that would make them really happy friends
12:49 Dyrcona csharp_++
12:50 jvwoolf rhamby++
12:51 jvwoolf They do work well together :)
12:55 csharp_ yes, rhamby and I do work well together, jvwoolf
12:56 rhamby absolutely
12:56 stephengwills ok, verdict in, thanks.  I’ll stand up an EG beside FF and stop trying to reinvent the wheel.  That saves me a boat load of upgrading as well. Thanks guys.
12:57 * csharp_ realizes that FF = FulfILLment and not firefox :-)
12:58 csharp_ lots of raised eyebrows before that
12:59 Dyrcona :)
13:00 stephengwills <— sticking with Chrome today…. I’ll test it all with FFox once I understand my EGBorrow, EGLend and FFill. ** THUD! **
13:11 Dyrcona hmmm... WAL files sticking around since yesterday afternoon...
13:30 jvwoolf csharp_++
13:46 Dyrcona So, I blame pingest for the backup in WAL deletion. I still have some from yesterday c. 3:20 PM EDT hanging around, but they do seem to be disappearing slowly.
14:02 * Dyrcona can't math today.
14:46 pinesol News from commits: LP#1986725: restore portrait/landscape choice when printing from Angular <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=E​vergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=af525a​5fda347c2261b4629fff5d919971f18a2d>
15:49 csharp_ Dyrcona: yes, pingest creates crazy amounts of WAL
15:49 csharp_ all in all, it's just another brick in the WAL
16:08 Dyrcona Uh-huh.... I had never noticed it before. It may be causing issues with one of our SIP users, but that may also be a coincidence.
16:09 Dyrcona Well, I never noticed it being this bad before, except that time it crashed my multi-terabyte db server with the symspell triggers enabled.
16:09 Dyrcona I have symspell turned off.
16:13 Dyrcona Also, i failed at trying to come up with a Pink Floyd pun. I was going to try and play off the title of some other song from The Wall, but gave up.
16:18 * Dyrcona made a tea about two hours ago and forgot about it. It's been steeping all that time. Guess I'll go ice it and drink it.
16:24 Dyrcona I suppose I should use a smaller batch size. miker said something about using a batch size of 5, or was it 2?
16:25 Dyrcona Ten thousand just seemed reasonable enough given the size of most databases. I guess a max. child of 8 is also a bit large. I admit the defaults are arbitrary.
16:27 Dyrcona pingest needs a way to pick up where it left off. I suppose there is if you dump a list of ids and feed it yourself.
16:28 Dyrcona I guess it's just gonna break....my WALs....
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