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IRC log for #evergreen, 2022-08-02

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10:48 mmorgan In 3.8, is there a way to get to the "old" holdings editor for an item in 3.8?
10:49 mmorgan Sorry for the redundant 3.8's ... :-/
11:18 berick mmorgan: yes, it can be done
11:19 berick 1. select items to edit and open them in the new editor
11:19 berick 2. grab the session key along the end of the URL (e.g. 495740b7bea2041e1987d1230616ea95)
11:20 berick 3. Use the same session key in the angjs URL.  e.g. /eg/staff/cat/volcopy/49574​0b7bea2041e1987d1230616ea95
11:20 csharp_ 4. profit
11:21 berick 5. invest wisely
11:21 Dyrcona berick foun the missing step... :)
11:21 Dyrcona found, even..
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11:38 mmorgan berick++
11:38 mmorgan Thanks!
11:38 * mmorgan now moves on to 4. profit and 5. invest wisely :)
11:45 * mmorgan has been trying all morning to test a checkin of an item in a certain shelving location with a particular variety of item alerts.
11:46 mmorgan It has been an adventure just setting up the scenario :-/
11:55 csharp_ has anyone developed/found any tools that would be useful in de-duping authority records?
11:56 csharp_ mmorgan: don't you wish some of the end users who are always mad that something "isn't fixed" could watch what we do sometimes? :-)
12:01 mmorgan csharp_: Actually, I feel for them! This library is trying to use the shelving location attribute Hold capture delay and it's not working with item alerts. Evergreen just seems to "forget" that it's in the middle of a checkin.
12:03 mmorgan Our test system is on 3.8.1 and I ran across a couple of item alert bugs that are fixed - in 3.8.2
12:04 mmorgan rabbit-holes--
12:07 jihpringle mmorgan: that sounds very similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1735221
12:07 pinesol Launchpad bug 1735221 in Evergreen "webclient: items with copy alert and hold verify fail to capture for hold" [Low,Confirmed]
12:08 mmorgan jihpringle++
12:08 mmorgan Aha! Didn't find that and it's exactly the issue!
12:10 mmorgan And it's not a new issue either.
12:11 jihpringle ya, we've been running into that one since we switched to the web client
12:12 jihpringle it's on my list to test in 3.9 and possibly in the angualr circ (if that server is still up this week)
12:14 mmorgan Definitely still an issue in 3.8!
12:18 mmorgan Our library is trying to use hold capture delay for hotspots, I think they need to check or reset them before they can go out again. I suggested they use the hold capture delay, not knowing there was a bug :-(
12:21 jihpringle they could use the Suppress Holds and Transits check in modifier (not as good since staff have to remember to use it) but could work for now
12:25 mmorgan jihpringle: Thanks, I will suggest that option. Just commented on the bug.
12:27 jihpringle just tested it in the new angular circ and it's still an issue there
12:27 jihpringle I'll update the bug and the circ spreadsheet
12:45 Dyrcona I didn't look very hard, but it appears to me that hold verify is just gonna break checkin no matter what. The location having hold_verify set does a bail on events, and do checkin returns if there is a bail on events right after that check is made. However, I didn't look much farther than that and circulation code is tricky.
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13:11 * Dyrcona wonders if it is time to have the community git discussion again. We're looking at possibly making some changes here because of things going on, and  it would be useful if we could link what we're doing with the community.
14:00 gmcharlt I wonder how we feel, collectively, about the notion of GitHub (Microsoft-owned and all) as a path of least resistasnce
14:08 rhamby I'm fine with GitHub. I'm not a big Microsoft fan but its not the Microsoft of yore either
14:10 gmcharlt it occurs to me that a deciding factor may not particularly be about repository management or pull request workflows or the like, but issue management
14:12 gmcharlt not that LP is remotely perfect (read: it has a lot of problems), but it does help with keeping track of backports in maintenance releases and is what folks are currently used to
14:13 gmcharlt of course, we could switch to GH for repos and maybe pull requests without turning on issues right away
14:24 rhamby just from a "community getting used to it" stand point I think moving the repo and keeping LP would be a good course and then evaulating moving from LP to Github issues could be a separate discussion
14:25 rhamby actually I think that's true of any git repo transition
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15:33 Dyrcona I'm a bit late, to the discussion, but I still haven't decided what I think about Copilot. I've been considering ditching Github personally. That said, I'm feeling less strongly about it that I was a month or so ago.
15:35 Dyrcona Github could be the path of least resistance.
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15:37 * Dyrcona waves to kmlussier
15:38 * kmlussier waves back :)
15:57 kmlussier parts++
16:01 Dyrcona :)
16:04 jvwoolf Got a library with Hatch troubles. I think they are working from a cloned PC. All their workstations were stored in Hatch, and I can't clear them out. Any ideas?
16:07 berick jvwoolf: you can remove/modify the eg.workstation.all and eg.workstation.default files.
16:07 berick i think they'll be in c:\ProgramFiles\Hatch\$my-host
16:08 berick or a .evergreen folder in the home directory
16:11 Dyrcona "Help I'm steppin' into the Twilight Zone. Place is a madhouse... Feels like being cloned...My beacon's been moved under moon and star...Where am I to go now that I've gone too far?"
16:20 jvwoolf berick++
16:20 jvwoolf Thank you, I was just looking for those!
16:23 Dyrcona Want to double the size of a Perl program with adding code? Just add POD!
16:23 Dyrcona s/with/without/ ... Grr.
16:24 Dyrcona I suspect that when I'm done documenting a particular program I'll have as much documentation as code in terms of lines. With the documentation probably contributing more bytes to the file than the code.
16:33 Dyrcona Well, that's enough for today. I'll have to finish it tomorrow.
16:33 Dyrcona Cheers, everyone!
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18:35 gmcharlt csharp_: I've added SPF records for list.evergreen-ils.org and evergreen-ils.org

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