IRC log for #evergreen, 2022-06-16

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Time	Nick	Message
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09:52	Dyrcona	Hmm.. Think we should remove the libmar line from configure.ac, but that should probably be its own bug....
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10:54	Stompro	ftp.baker-taylor.com seems to still be broken for active and passive ftp connections. Everyone ask them to support ssh/scp/sftp so we don't need to go through this again in the future :-)
10:57	Dyrcona	Stompro: I mentioned it yesterday morning, but I don't have a support contact at B&T. I think one of our libraries would have to contact them, since they are the customers.
10:58	Dyrcona	One thought I had is to group by vendor/URL in the fetcher and pusher, make one ftp connection and login/logout for each account. My suspicion is that they are blocking us, but it could just be that they're down.
11:00	Stompro	Dyrcona, I think they switched ISPs or just changed IPs. They have had ftp.baker-taylor.com resolve to various different IPs in the last 48 hours. I've opened a ticket with them.
11:01	Stompro	Their ftp server is returning an internal ip to a passive list operation.
11:01	Stompro	I can connect and log in, but then it isn't possible to get any other commands to work.
11:02	Dyrcona	Stompro++
11:02	Dyrcona	FYI: We're resetting karma tonight.
11:03	Stompro	Ha
11:03	Stompro	Dyrcona++
11:19	berick	in that case, for csharp_ ...
11:19	berick	comcast++
11:21	csharp_	NOOOOO
11:21	csharp_	@karma
11:21	pinesol	csharp_: Highest karma: "Dyrcona" (170), "JBoyer" (162), "mmorgan" (121), "jeff" (88), and "berick" (77). Lowest karma: "comcast" (-8), "typos" (-7), "Meeting" (-4), "marc" (-2), and "npm" (-2). You (csharp_) are ranked 6 out of 167.
11:22	JBoyer	berick++
11:23	csharp_	https://frinkiac.com/video/S05E13/1RUxFPRah_YLKfTaZVYGpLbyQ4k=.gif
11:26	mmorgan	Stompro++
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12:42	Dyrcona	Whee!
12:42	* Dyrcona	just having fun.
12:48	miker	berick: I came in a few minutes late to your ES talk yesterday, are your slides up somewhere already? (I'll try to answer my own questions before peppering you!)
12:49	berick	miker: https://github.com/berick/Presentations/tree/master/Evergreen-2022
12:49	miker	thanks!
13:03	miker	berick: thanks again. maybe during hackfest we can discuss gaps? I'm curious about how much of the various visibility testing is implemented (staff vs patron, Located URIs with/without acts-as-copy, hierarchical org + depth, empty vs "patron empty" records) and MR search results ... to start ;)
13:05	berick	miker: yeah, happy to talk. from this list, only Located URI's are not yet taken into consideration.
13:05	berick	the rest should be there
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15:35	miker	redis docs are good, but sometimes headings are strange ... anyway, here's where streams+groups are like routers (though local only, as discussed) if you squint just a little: https://redis.io/commands/xreadgroup/#differences-between-xread-and-xreadgroup
15:46	Dyrcona	parts-- :)
15:46	* Dyrcona	waits for kmlussier to swoop in and negate that. :)
15:47	mmorgan	parts++
15:47	mmorgan	Beat her to it!
15:47	mmorgan	I bet her ears are burning!
15:56	Dyrcona	Heh
16:00	abneiman	mantis1++ # conference chair
16:01	mmorgan	mantis1++
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16:13	Dyrcona	mantis1++
16:13	Bmagic	mmorgan++ # core committer shout out
16:24	Bmagic	gmcharlt++
16:25	mmorgan	gmcharlt++
16:26	rhamby	I'm not sure how somehow Distributed Denial of Omelets will become a tshirt
16:26	rhamby	"how but somehow"
16:27	rhamby	dluch_ ^
16:27	mmorgan	cwmars++
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16:35	Dyrcona	gmxharlt++
16:35	Dyrcona	mmorgan++
16:37	RFrasur	parts++
16:37	abneiman	rhamby: yes please (on the t shirt)
16:37	abneiman	maybe as hackaway merch
16:37	abneiman	"Evergreen Hackaway: Distributed Denial of Omelets"
16:37	rhamby	maybe a limited time thing leading up to the hack-a-way
16:37	RFrasur	I'm concerned that this might negate the possibility of omelets.
16:38	mmorgan	If you order in the next ten minutes...
16:38	abneiman	I, personally, was at the end of the Omelet DDOS line and I dang near didn't get my omelet
16:39	abneiman	"all I got was this t shirt"
16:39	RFrasur	Hmm, we're approaching dinner time, cuz I only want an omelet at this point.
16:40	rhamby	I want an omelet too now and we have great curry omelet korean places around here
16:40	mmorgan	Nothing wrong with an omelet for dinner!
16:40	mmorgan	or breakfast, or lunch.
16:40	* RFrasur	is having an omelet for dinner.
16:41	RFrasur	And this is how decisions get made around here. It could only be better if there was a t-shirt to go along with it.
16:42	* Dyrcona	has no idea what for dinner.
16:42	* mmorgan	suggests ice cream.
16:43	Dyrcona	mmorgan++
16:44	jeff	q
16:44	jeff	bah
16:44	Dyrcona	:q!
16:44	mmorgan	:)
16:44	Dyrcona	jeff++
16:45	Dyrcona	,q ; For the slime-repl users. ;)
16:56	RFrasur	Am I correct in assuming that the holds count column in item status only displays a count for copy holds - not title or parts?
16:57	mmorgan	I think it displays the count of all holds the item can possibly fill. Could be wrong about that. Looking
16:58	RFrasur	Hmm, there's also a bug about that column not being populated.
16:59	RFrasur	https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1801146
16:59	pinesol	Launchpad bug 1801146 in Evergreen "Web Client - Item Status Columns Not Populated" [Undecided,Confirmed]
17:00	mmorgan	Ok, I must be thinking of a different interface. It's not populated on our 3.7.2 system.
17:01	RFrasur	I just added a comment that it's not populated in 3.7.1 (our current system)
17:01	RFrasur	mmorgan++ # thanks for checking
17:02	mmorgan	YW! But I think it should be the number of holds the item can possibly fill :)
17:03	RFrasur	Personally, I'd like that, as well as another column for copy holds count and then another for title holds count.
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17:23	jeff	hopin makes saving chat ridiculously complicated. :-P
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17:32	Dyrcona	You can't Ctrl-a?
17:34	Dyrcona	Ooh, Ctrl-a selects the whole page.
17:35	Dyrcona	jeff: I think I see what you mean.
17:45	jeff	as for captions, it looks like there was no day1 track2 captioning, probably because it was all interest groups that day.
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18:15	* kmlussier	thought she heard her name.
18:16	kmlussier	@karma parts
18:16	pinesol	kmlussier: Karma for "parts" has been increased 8 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 7.
18:16	* kmlussier	will wait for the karma reset.
18:17	kmlussier	mmorgan++ Rfrasur++ #Keeping the parts love going!
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18:18	Dyrcona	:)
18:19	Dyrcona	Unless I hear from bshum beforehand, I'll do the karma reset at 8:00 PM.
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19:55	Dyrcona	Well, it turns out that I can't do the pinesol commands for unloading karma because I don't have the "owner capability."
20:00	Dyrcona	Ah ha!
20:02	Dyrcona	Hmm... Didn't work. Bot prolly needs a restart for that to have an effect.
20:03	Dyrcona	Oh well. Guess I won't be resetting karma tonight.
20:04	Dyrcona	Good night, #evergreen!
22:17	bshum	Guess I'll have to do it :)
22:20	bshum	@karma
22:20	pinesol	bshum: Error: I have no karma for this channel.
22:20	bshum	evergreen++
22:20	bshum	community++
22:21	bshum	@karma
22:21	pinesol	bshum: Highest karma: "evergreen" (1) and "community" (1). Lowest karma: "evergreen" (1) and "community" (1).
22:21	bshum	Final Karma 2021 - https://evergreen-ils.org/~bshum/karma.final.2021.txt
22:24	JBoyer	bshum++