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06:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//arch​ive/2022-06/2022-06-09_04:00:02/test.49.html>
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09:58 mantis1 I upgraded one of our test servers from 3.6.5 to 3.9.  Has anyone had weird spacing problems in the Boopac after an upgrade?  I have no idea why it's spacing out so much like it is.  There is a width=device-width element added in base.tt2, but it doesn't seem to make a difference if it's deleted or not.
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10:38 csharp_ mantis1: is it stock EG or did you apply customizations on top of the upgrade?
10:39 csharp_ (or conversely, applied stock EG stuff on top of your customized stuff?)
10:40 csharp_ I (well, terran) always have to fix a lot of git conflicts and reconcile them to make the OPAC work
10:40 csharp_ all depends on how y'all manage your customizations
10:40 csharp_ mantis2: ^^
10:41 csharp_ apropos of nothing, I'm enjoying Andrew Bird's new album and recommend it as working music for those who partake
10:41 berick nice, i'm a fan
10:42 csharp_ such a unique artist with many many talents
10:43 berick i'll raise you an Angel Olsen
10:43 csharp_ ah - I like her too
10:44 csharp_ been slowly making my way through the new Wilco album too
11:57 RFrasur Angel Olsen > Wilco; not sure I've heard Andrew Bird (or noted it was them)
11:57 RFrasur (imo, of course...no more than that)
12:00 RFrasur New music, that is.  I've struggled with Wilco's new album.
12:40 csharp_ RFrasur: I understand - I've struggled with Wilco in general, but after delving into Uncle Tupelo and the progression from there to Sun Volt/Wilco, I like them more
12:43 RFrasur Yeah.  I do like Uncle Tupelo more.  Also, I think I'm getting old.  There's a lot of "same song, second verse" in general.
12:43 csharp_ yep
12:44 csharp_ first heard Wilco from my wife's super fratty step-brother and that colored how I viewed their music for years
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12:46 RFrasur I first heard them from a "boyfriend" who was involved in that "plains/northwest territory/Chicago" alt-country scene...and then another "partner."  That has colored my impression.  I might be a little overly dismissive of musician angst and drama.
12:46 csharp_ ha!
12:46 csharp_ I'm an R.E.M. guy - all succeeding music taste kind of flows from there
12:47 csharp_ they're about as no drama as a rock band can be
12:47 berick yeah, r.e.m. is a whole different level
12:47 csharp_ s/they're/they were/ :-/
12:48 RFrasur It might also be a generational thing.  REM was kind of angsty, but not dramatic about it.
12:49 RFrasur Wilco and their ilk (yes...ilk) just strike me as needy and a little manipulative.  I could be projecting though.
12:49 csharp_ had a dream the other night that I was hanging out with R.E.M. and Peter Buck had constructive critiques on my attempts at songwriting
12:49 RFrasur csharp_++
12:50 jvwoolf csharp_: Thanks for the recommendation! I wasn't familiar with this artist, but I'm listening to the album and I dig it.
12:50 jvwoolf I really need to incorporate more music into my work day
12:50 * csharp_ struggles to make bash more like perl, then remembers why perl was invented
12:50 csharp_ jvwoolf: happy to help!
12:52 csharp_ I'm trying to make a marc_export wrapper I use for regular OCLC exports/uploads into a tool I can use to do full exports for the big OCLC holdings redo thing we're doing
12:52 csharp_ I wrote it in 2013 originally - wishing now I'd used perl, but not willing to trash it to rewrite the whole thing for this one use
12:53 RFrasur ew (OCLC) and good luck
12:53 RFrasur Did you know much about perl then?
12:53 csharp_ no ma'am'
12:53 RFrasur If you rewrite it, will it work better and will you potentially reuse it in the future?
12:53 csharp_ maybe - that's always the dilemma :-)
12:54 RFrasur lol, well...yes, it is.
12:54 csharp_ caring about code quality is complicating :-)
12:54 RFrasur Also, I'd like to put a vote in for the Wood Brothers.
12:55 csharp_ RFrasur: I'll check 'em out
12:55 RFrasur And John Craigie (about 33%)
12:55 RFrasur oh, and Jamestown Revival.
12:56 csharp_ pretty sure the Wood Brothers have ended up on a playlist/station I've listened to
12:56 csharp_ definitely in the neighborhood of bands I like
12:56 RFrasur csharp_, you have lots of context to understand the implication of variations in code quality.
12:56 csharp_ DBT/Jason Isbell
12:56 RFrasur Yes, though Jason Isbell gets on my nerves.
12:56 RFrasur lol
12:57 RFrasur (Get off my lawn)
12:59 RFrasur Though he's a very quality human from all indications and very talented.
12:59 csharp_ he quit drinking around the same time I did, so I feel a kinship
12:59 RFrasur csharp_++
13:01 RFrasur He's a dude I'd hang out with.  (though he might not hang out with me). I think it was probably something that I just didn't like the composition of something.  There's no good explanation.
13:03 berick RFrasur: a friend said he (my friend) was not southern enough to listen to Jason Isbell.
13:04 berick a friend from boston
13:04 * RFrasur laughs
13:05 RFrasur Well...err.  I don't know what that even means.  Everyone is southern enough if they want to be.  That's like saying there's a certain latitude where you start preferring margarine (ew) over butter.
13:17 csharp_ @who is not southern enough?
13:17 pinesol mantis2 is not southern enough.
13:17 csharp_ @band add Southern Enough
13:17 pinesol csharp_: Band 'Southern Enough' added to list
13:19 jeffdavis All y'all are southern enough from where I'm sitting.
13:22 csharp_ jeffdavis++
13:23 csharp_ @quote add < jeffdavis> All y'all are southern enough from where I'm sitting.
13:23 pinesol csharp_: The operation succeeded.  Quote #226 added.
13:23 RFrasur jeffdavis++
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13:28 jeffdavis jeff: When I add the text-white class to the li element, it shows up in the source but doesn't affect the fading of the link text. For now I've added a custom CSS class to the links themselves (<a class="nav-link navbar-dark-link">) which seems to work. Still weird to me that I can't override the Bootstrap CSS directly with !important though.
15:18 berick @who told [band] to rebrand as [band]
15:18 pinesol jweston told All The Jeffs to rebrand as Hida no Kami.
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16:20 jeff If you're affected by the checkboxes bug / bug 1976403, chances are if you trigger an update check in Chrome you'll get a fixed version.
16:20 pinesol Launchpad bug 1976403 in Evergreen "Advanced search checkboxes missing / incorrectly positioned in Bootstrap OPAC" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1976403
16:30 mmorgan Just updated Chrome and the boxes are back!
16:30 mmorgan jeff++
16:38 jeff broken in Edge still, but hopefully not for too much longer.
16:59 csharp_ jeff++
16:59 csharp_ @karma
16:59 pinesol csharp_: Highest karma: "Dyrcona" (168), "JBoyer" (161), "mmorgan" (121), "jeff" (88), and "berick" (72).  Lowest karma: "typos" (-7), "Meeting" (-4), "marc" (-2), "npm" (-2), and "(" (-2).  You (csharp_) are ranked 6 out of 162.
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16:59 csharp_ @karma
16:59 pinesol csharp_: Highest karma: "Dyrcona" (168), "JBoyer" (161), "mmorgan" (121), "jeff" (88), and "berick" (72).  Lowest karma: "comcast" (-9), "typos" (-7), "Meeting" (-4), "marc" (-2), and "npm" (-2).  You (csharp_) are ranked 6 out of 163.
17:00 csharp_ that's better
17:00 mmorgan :)
17:00 mmorgan At least you got enough bandwidth to do that!
17:01 berick heh
17:02 csharp_ I'm on at&t, which while not awesome either, at least it's not comcast :-)
17:21 mmorgan not_comcast++
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18:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//arch​ive/2022-06/2022-06-09_16:00:02/test.49.html>
20:14 jeffdavis the 34-lp1787968-cover-uploader.t live test is failing with a 404 on http://127.0.0.1/jacket-upload
20:16 jeffdavis 29-lp1817645-remoteauth-patron-api.t also does HTTP requests, but that test is actually being skipped right now because the test environment's version of LWP::Protocol::https is not >=6.0.7
20:19 jeffdavis and 24-offline-all-assets.t (which does a wget on https://localhost/eg/staff/offline-interface) technically isn't failing but I'm not sure the test is robust - in an environment with an nginx proxy, the test will pass if apache isn't running because the response is a 502 error and the test only checks for 404
20:20 jeffdavis I'm also not really sure that the wget output is being parsed properly
20:22 jeffdavis in other words, none of the 3 live tests that do direct HTTP requests against the test server are really "working"
20:23 jeffdavis something to fix at the hackfest maybe?

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