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IRC log for #evergreen, 2022-04-26

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08:56 Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to #evergreen (https://evergreen-ils.org). This channel is publicly logged.
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08:56 JBoyer back now. mmorgan++
08:57 mmorgan @coffee JBoyer
08:57 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Ethiopia Sidamo Natural Korate, and sends it sliding down the bar to JBoyer
08:58 JBoyer Not updating the calendar on the main page yet, but it's got things logged, I suppose that happens later.
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09:21 bshum If you mean the log channel page,  it gets cached based on who navigates to it first I think.  Seems alright to me for now.
09:23 bshum Oh, hmm
09:23 bshum That is different looking
09:23 Bmagic bshum!
09:25 * bshum waves at Bmagic
09:33 Dyrcona Ain't technology wonderful?
09:35 Bmagic yes.....
09:39 Dyrcona The "Today" link works on the IRC logs page, but, yeah, the calendar isn't being updated.
09:44 Dyrcona I think it has been discussed here before, but we've seen a sharp increase in error messages since upgrading from 3.5.3 to 3.7.2. I was just looking a 'Severe query error' in the logs. We used get 20 or less during the 9:00 AM hour, but since the upgrade we've been getting around 500 during that hour.
09:47 JBoyer Dyrcona, are many / most of those "Empty IN list" things from cstore? I remember seeing those for ages and while they don't cause much trouble ui-side they are annoying.
09:48 JBoyer berick, your conference session about redis looks really interesting, do you have anything in a state you'd be willing to share or are you waiting until close to the conference?
09:48 Dyrcona JBoyer: Some are, but I haven't counted just those. I'll do a quick count from this hour's log. It's already up to 508 severe query errors. The hours look increased overall, but not so drastic as 9:00 AM.
09:49 Dyrcona 304 are empty in list errors so far this hour.
09:55 * csharp_ cool-guy nods at bshum
09:55 berick JBoyer: yes, i'll post my working branches today
09:55 JBoyer No rush, but cool!
09:55 JBoyer berick++
09:56 JBoyer I wonder if that would simplify Rocky / Red Hat installation since last I knew ejabberd has to be installed from source
09:57 * csharp_ nods eagerly
09:57 csharp_ not source, fortunately the ejabberd project provides RPMs, but not great
09:57 Dyrcona Well, speaking of ejabberd, I have not gotten it to work on ubuntu 22.04, yet. I've mucked with the configuration a bit, and it hangs/crashes.
09:58 Dyrcona It should be similar to Bullseye, but no.
10:30 berick JBoyer: my talk in progress.  scroll down a little to see links to the working branches.  https://github.com/berick/Presentations/​blob/master/Evergreen-2022/osrf-redis.md
10:30 JBoyer berick++
10:31 JBoyer Thanks
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11:04 jeff I reach for reporter.materialized_simple_record a lot when writing reports where I want to include a title of a record. There isn't a "sort title" or "title excluding non-filing portion" in that table.
11:05 jeff Does anyone here have a favorite place for such a value?
11:05 jeff right now I'm eyeing something involving metabib.browse_entry.sort_value
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11:45 jvwoolf jeff: That's the table/source I use for title. I find libraries want to sort by call number most of the time in reports, so sorting by title hasn't been much of an issue.
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12:19 csharp_ berick: don't want you to have to spoil your presentation completely over IRC, but would Redis also have the potential to replace memcached?
12:20 berick csharp_: it could, yes
12:20 csharp_ that is very exciting
12:20 Dyrcona I thought caching was the main purpose of Redis until I looked it up.
12:20 berick w/ the option that you could persist certain keys to disk, e.g. auth tokens
12:21 csharp_ same - I use it for my nextcloud instance
12:21 Dyrcona Maybe we should shoot for a 4.0 OpenSRF and Evergreen that replace ejabberd with redis?
12:21 JBoyer jeff, the Wide Display Entries link from Bib Record look fairly decent if staff don't like the normalized-to-lowercase entries from elsewhere. (I know there was at least 1 bug about that in the past) Though multiple entries are put in an array syntax that may be off-putting to some. (beats multiple rows, though)
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13:18 jeff reporter.materialized_simple_record title values are no longer normalized to lowercase, so I can display those while still sorting on the Title Proper (Browse) sort_value from metabib.browse_entry
13:19 jeff I ended up throwing a view in extend_reporter that gives me bre.id and the relevant sort value (combining metabib.browse_entry with config.metabib_field and metabib.browse_entry_def_map)
13:20 jeff I was surprised that I hadn't done similar or used something else before.
13:20 jeff (who knows, maybe I have)
13:29 stephengwills in the action_trigger.event what is the update_process integer referring to?
13:33 stephengwills nm found it
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16:14 mmorgan @dessert [someone]
16:14 * pinesol grabs some candy corn for Dyrcona
16:15 mmorgan heh, not the most seasonal dessert :-/
16:16 berick arguably no such season exists
16:17 mmorgan :)
16:17 mmorgan arguably, it's not a dessert either
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16:26 Dyrcona :)
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