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06:01 |
pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//archive/2022-04/2022-04-22_04:00:02/test.49.html> |
06:48 |
* JBoyer |
shakes fist at test |
06:48 |
JBoyer |
My testing setup must be slightly different in some way. (IT |
06:48 |
JBoyer |
's not reset between builds, for one thing) |
06:51 |
JBoyer |
.... OR, I did not push the change, because it's not in there. :-/ |
06:53 |
JBoyer |
Done, and only 1 day late to make the RC... |
07:06 |
pinesol |
News from commits: Test Followup: Fix Jacket Dir in autogen.sh <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=d436f5b4a409bdff0d597b596b07f71b63f398fc> |
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08:37 |
bshum |
JBoyer++ |
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09:17 |
terranm |
I feel like I should know this already, but has anyone already figured out a way to force a particular OPAC page to load fresh to be sure that it's not loading from browser cache? (Context: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1965579 - we have the fix in place, but some patrons are still seeing the payment button when they have a negative |
09:17 |
terranm |
bill so I suspect they have the old page cached.) |
09:17 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1965579 in Evergreen "Stripe Payment Intents and Negative Bills" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Terran McCanna (tmccanna) |
09:22 |
Dyrcona |
terranm: I usually use the Chrome developer tools. When they're open, you can right right click on the reload button and have an option to clear cache and hard reload. |
09:22 |
terranm |
Not to clear my own cache - I need to force the end user to not load from cache for one page |
09:23 |
Dyrcona |
BTW, I also disable the main cache directive in the Apache2 configuration when we upgraded last year. I've added it to our local git branch. |
09:24 |
Dyrcona |
Generally, you can't force the user's browser to do anything. Pretty much everything the server sends to the browser is optional. |
09:24 |
Dyrcona |
The user would have to clear their cache or use a browser option to reload the page bypassing the cache. |
09:28 |
terranm |
You can use meta tags in the HTML header to tell the browser to not load from cache (which most browsers generally pay attention), which I've done with other sites, but since the same header is used for all of the OPAC pages I don't want to put it there. I was thinking maybe I could put some IF logic into the header to only use those meta tags if |
09:28 |
terranm |
the patron is on the charges page. Or in the My Account pages in general. |
09:30 |
Dyrcona |
My advice is set ExpiresActive to Off in eg.conf and reload the Apache config. |
09:30 |
terranm |
Okay, I'll talk to Chris about that |
09:41 |
jeff |
csharp_ (and terranm): keep in mind that the clients that already have the page cached won't be affected by changes to http headers or meta tags... they already have the page cached and are using that cached copy, so they won't see the changes you make until they decide to discard their cached copy. |
09:47 |
Dyrcona |
Yeahp. Which is mostly why I said that you can't really do much from the server-side. I guess I could have explained it better. |
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09:49 |
Dyrcona |
I do think the commit that added the Expires directives was a bit misguided for general release. It seems to me like something that was more suited as a local customization. It also predates the web staff client and cause some havoc there. |
09:49 |
Dyrcona |
I should Lp it with a commit to remove it. |
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09:56 |
Dyrcona |
terranm: Check the public IRC log for something jeff mentioned, if you haven't seen it already. |
09:57 |
mmorgan |
Just checking, is there any reason to hold off pushing bug 1907863? |
09:57 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1907863 in Evergreen 3.6 "Bootstrap OPAC: My Lists could use formatting help" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1907863 |
09:58 |
terranm |
Libera kicked me out for a bit. Argh, where are the irc logs located now? |
09:58 |
mmorgan |
http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2022-04-21 |
09:58 |
terranm |
Thanks! |
09:58 |
mmorgan |
Oops, that's yesterday, but you get the idea |
09:59 |
terranm |
Yeah, I came to that realization that any code I changed to stop caching wouldn't take effect until after they cleared their cache after I brought it up.... it's a real CACHE-22 |
10:00 |
terranm |
#badjokefriday |
10:01 |
Dyrcona |
terranm++ |
10:01 |
mmorgan |
terranm++ |
10:03 |
terranm |
mmorgan: When I tested the My Lists code it looked good. Ruth's comment about the workflow is a different usability problem than the formatting, IMO. |
10:04 |
mmorgan |
terranm: Thanks, I thought it looked good, too. I'm just wondering about the timing with the release schedule. |
10:04 |
terranm |
mmorgan++ |
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10:19 |
jeff |
terranm++ (and *groan*) |
10:22 |
JBoyer |
terranm++ |
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10:28 |
Dyrcona |
I have a question about translations that may seem dumb. Are there bzr branches for different Evergreen releases, or would I be better off grabbing translations for a specific release from the Evergreen tarball for that release? |
10:38 |
berick |
i'm only aware of the one bzr branch. in theory we could start adding release-time tags. |
10:55 |
Dyrcona |
berick: Thanks. That's what I thought. |
10:55 |
Dyrcona |
We're considering adding Spanish to our OPAC. |
10:56 |
Dyrcona |
berick++ # It's Karma Friday! |
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11:45 |
* Dyrcona |
thinks allow_phone_notifications should be moved to an org_unit setting. |
11:46 |
RFrasur |
Oh, that'd be lovely. In fact, I'd be happy if more notifications could be moved to an ou setting. |
11:46 |
Bmagic |
Isn't there a bug somewhere about downloading "mylist"'s from the OPAC to CSV? |
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11:58 |
Dyrcona |
RFrasur: I plan to add a Lp later today for the phone notifications. |
11:59 |
RFrasur |
when you do, ping me. |
12:15 |
terranm |
Bmagic - yes, once it gets large it fails, looking for the bug... |
12:17 |
terranm |
Now I'm not finding the bug either |
12:18 |
terranm |
Oh wait, I'm thinking of the bug for downloading circulation history, not lists |
12:19 |
Bmagic |
terrnam: yep, found that one |
12:19 |
terranm |
Could be hitting the same error if it's a large list? |
12:19 |
Bmagic |
There is something going on, but it might be local. Clicking on Download CSV results in an empty file. Then I decided to clck on the list to load the titles, that throws a 500 error. Tracking down the logs now |
12:19 |
Bmagic |
It's a small list of one bib that I just created on a test system |
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12:27 |
jvwoolf |
Bmagic: Getting the same results on a 3.8 test server |
12:27 |
jvwoolf |
It works on 3.8 |
12:27 |
jvwoolf |
I mean 3.6 |
12:27 |
Bmagic |
oh! Mine is 3.7, and on master it works |
12:27 |
Bmagic |
hmmmm |
12:31 |
Bmagic |
so maybe it's not me? |
12:34 |
terranm |
It works on our 3.8 production server |
12:36 |
Bmagic |
WARN:16855:osrf_stack.c:238:1645977116168550] The stack doesn't know what to do with the provided message code: 500, name osrfMethodException. Passing UP. |
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13:00 |
mmorgan |
Bmagic: Just tried the csv download from our production server and it works. Maybe an action trigger template issue? |
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13:21 |
Dyrcona |
RFrasur: bug 1969967 |
13:21 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1969967 in Evergreen "allow_phone_notifications would work better as an organizational unit setting" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1969967 |
13:21 |
RFrasur |
Dyrcona++ |
15:19 |
Bmagic |
mmorgan: hmmm |
15:36 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic: I am not sure that your warning has anything to do with your 500 error in the browser. I don't really have anything to add beyond that. |
15:37 |
Bmagic |
thanks for looking. No worries, I'll keep pounding on it |
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16:37 |
pinesol |
News from commits: LP1907863 Bootstrap Opac: My Lists formatting <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f1a4030660e52282722a2b22165535bf4af7c44> |
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18:02 |
pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//archive/2022-04/2022-04-22_16:00:06/test.49.html> |
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