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News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//archive/2022-04/2022-04-04_04:00:04/test.49.html> |
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rfrasur |
Has anyone used A/T with serials to push an email notification when an issue needs to be claimed? |
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Dyrcona |
berick: Is there a good reason that we have two implementations of marc_xml_to_doc, one in AppUtils and the other in AuthCommon? |
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berick |
Dyrcona: good reason? i doubt it. i'd prefer tweaking the version in AuthCommon to look like the version in Cat/Authority.pm (which calls AppUtils) |
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Dyrcona |
Could we just drop the AuthCommon one and call the one in AppUtils? They are identical at the moment. |
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jeff |
if you drop it, it is no longer identical. :-) |
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Bmagic |
I count four total calls to that function |
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jeff |
i'd favor berick's suggestion. |
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jeff |
it has the potential to break less code, while still achieving the (implied/assumed) goal of eliminating "two identical copies of the same code" |
13:51 |
Keith-isl |
Not sure who all the fine free gurus are out there, but I come seeking wisdom and insight: we are noticing increased incidents of patrons checking out materials at (fine free library), but then visiting a (not fine free library) and renewing their items there. As a result, non-fine free library circ policies apply, and when items become overdue, both patron and staff at (fine free library) are confused when fines show up attached to those |
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Keith-isl |
circulations, even though they originated at (fine free library). |
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Keith-isl |
This might be a feature, but it seems like a bug |
13:52 |
Keith-isl |
Anyone rocking fine free procedures have local controls to fix this? |
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Dyrcona |
Keith-isl: Yeah you increase your loans rule exponentially or your switch from checkout lib to owning lib rules. |
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Dyrcona |
Or, you make being fine free a precondition to joining the consortium. :P |
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terranm |
Keith-isl: our fines are tied to circulation modifiers so we have, for example, video and video-ff so regardless of the circulation / renewal location, the -ff one doesn't get fines. |
13:56 |
Keith-isl |
Dyrcona: As someone who is 100% policy, and 0% code, I would vastly prefer the third option. X) |
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Keith-isl |
terranm: ...that would solve lots of issues, actually |
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mmorgan |
Keith-isl: We have fine rules follow the owning library. It can be configured in circ policy, but as Dyrcona says, more rules. |
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Dyrcona |
terranm++ The circ modifier is probably the simplest move, but you're likely still going to need more rules. |
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jeff |
for those here using the "owning library" or "circ modifier" approaches, doesn't this mean that a user at a fine-free library will pay fines when an item transits to fill their hold? |
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mmorgan |
jeff: Yes. Also not ideal. |
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rfrasur |
jeff, very good point. |
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jvwoolf |
Keith-isl: We have the "circ.desk_renewal.use_original_circ_lib" global flag set to true |
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jvwoolf |
Which ensures that the original checkout library is always set as the renewal library regardless of where the item is renewed |
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rfrasur |
jvwoolf++ |
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rfrasur |
I think that might be the fix we need. Checking. |
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Dyrcona |
jvwoolf++ |
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terranm |
jvwoolf++ |
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terranm |
jeff: yes - we only have a couple of libraries doing a fines-free pilot, and they are only doing it on their own items. Anything transited to them to fill holds gets the normal (non-ff) circ mod and their checkout receipts show a message that indicates which items will get fines. Since it is a very limited pilot, we wanted to keep policy changes to |
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terranm |
a minimum and this was the best approach for us. |
14:08 |
jvwoolf |
Has anybody ever seen drones hang on for hours or days on end and not die? |
14:10 |
jvwoolf |
We've been sitting at 78% open-ils.cat drones since this morning. Tracked it down to records getting deleted from a bucket. But the records are deleted and the drones remain. |
14:11 |
Dyrcona |
jvwoolf: They'll hang around until they process a configured number of messages. |
14:13 |
Dyrcona |
Keith-isl: You might want to ask on the evergreen mailing list. We have something like half of our members fine free, but I'm not involved in it much. The two of our staff who would know if we do anything special don't hang out here. |
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Keith-isl |
jvwoolf++ |
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Keith-isl |
Dyrcona++ |
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Keith-isl |
terranm++ |
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pinesol |
News from commits: LP1930747: Add MARC_NAMESPACE to Const.pm <https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e925ed40778333d4f189bee96ab1fbe4a369f99> |
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JBoyer |
The circ.desk_renewal.use_original_circ_lib global flag sounds like a great way to handle it since you're using the opac-renewal equivalent |
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rfrasur |
Yep. Already applied. |
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Keith-isl |
Yeah, was working my way up to a Ozymandias style, "We flipped that switch 30 minutes ago" line. |
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JBoyer |
Keith-isl++ |
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Keith-isl++ |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Failed Running perl live tests <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//archive/2022-04/2022-04-04_16:00:02/test.49.html> |
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