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06:00 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:52 Dyrcona Has Boopsie gone away? Did I miss a memo?
08:53 Dyrcona Only thing that I can find about it is a press release that Solus bought Boopsie from Demco last year.
08:57 Dyrcona Ok. There's this from Marshall Breeding's site: Solus UK announced it has acquired the Boopsie mobile app and customer base from Demco, Inc. All Boopsie customers will be migrated to the latest Solus Library App at no additional cost to their existing subscription.
08:57 Dyrcona So, I guess Boopsie is no more.
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09:28 JBoyer From what I remember it won't be missed much.
09:43 Dyrcona :)
09:46 Dyrcona That's one less cron job for me to worry about.
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10:10 Dyrcona Looks like our Boopsie uploads have been failing all month, and I didn't notice until this morning.
10:21 csharp_ hooray! I never have to say the word "boopsie" again! (except when my dogs throw up)
10:22 * berick chuckles
10:30 Dyrcona heh
10:59 Keith-isl Dyrcona I sent a support ticket in to Solus, who seems to own Boopsie now
10:59 Keith-isl I e-mailed them on the 1st and haven't heard back yet, so I suspect there may be shenanigans afoot
11:00 Keith-isl Not sure if it's kosher if I put their service desk e-mail address in here, but it can be found at the bottom of https://boopsie2solus.com/
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11:16 Dyrcona Keith-isl: I heard from internal sources that 9/28/21 was the cutoff date for Boopsie: "Solus does not have a connector (API) to Evergreen and at this time they do not plan to build one.  They are sunsetting all the CW MARS Boopsie apps as of September 28th, 2021."
11:17 Keith-isl That is juicy
11:17 Keith-isl Any by "juicy" I mean "frustrating."
11:18 Dyrcona Everyone else forgot that we were sending records to Boopsie, so they didn't mention it to me until I asked about it this morning.
11:18 Dyrcona Yeah, well, looks like whatever you're doing to send records to Boopsie, you can stop it.
11:19 Keith-isl Thanks for the heads up - I will pass it along. I suspect we have a few libraries still using Boopsie powered apps, and if they didn't mention anything to us, then I am feeling doubtful that they gave customers the courtesy of a heads up.
11:19 Dyrcona Well, I suspect that those apps have or will stop working.
11:20 Dyrcona We're pushing everyone to Hemlock, anyway.
11:20 Keith-isl Dyrcona ++
11:21 * Dyrcona steps away for a bit.
12:08 * jeff shakes fist at zombie holds
12:09 csharp_ @band add Zombie Holds
12:09 pinesol csharp_: Band 'Zombie Holds' added to list
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12:13 JBoyer DELETE FROM action.hold_request WHERE hold_type = 'Z'; RAISE NOTICE 'Problem Solved!';
12:18 * mmorgan wonders, given the season, if the problem holds ARE zombies or FOR zombies.
12:22 jeff "uncancelled" holds.
12:23 * mmorgan doesn't recall having problems with uncancelled holds.
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12:35 jeff to paraphrase Pet Sematary, "sometimes, cancelled is better"
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12:47 * mmorgan shakes fist at Zombie Items!
12:48 mmorgan Deleted, then reentered with the same barcode.
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13:39 jvwoolf ICan anyone tell me the purpose of the PO HTML, Line Item Worksheet, and Invoice action triggers? Are these generated when the libraries print, or do they have other purposes?
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13:56 jeff hold for pickup lib 1 has a copy in transit from lib 2. cancel hold, uncancel hold, change pickup lib on hold to lib 3, check in in-transit item from lib 2 at lib 1, system sets shelf_time to now and current_shelf_lib to lib 1 and notifies patron that item is ready for pickup at lib 3.
13:57 jeff patron shows up at lib 3, items aren't there, and by this time there are copies in transit from lib 4 to lib 3 to fill their hold, but they haven't arrived yet.
13:59 jeff (hold shows status of "Wrong Shelf")
13:59 jeff (now to find out how much of this is already fixed!)
14:11 Dyrcona jeff: Sounds about right. :)
14:20 csharp_ jvwoolf: PO HTML should create a printable copy of the PO, I think Line Item Worksheet might be the same for a picklist, but that's not definitive and Invoice should create a printable invoice
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14:21 csharp_ jvwoolf: we have highly customized our PO HTML definition (well, terranm did :-) ) - I'd be happy to share if you want
14:23 jvwoolf csharp_: Thanks! I was just curious what they did. I am trying to assign max delay and retention intervals to everything so that we can start purging out action triggers regularly
14:23 jvwoolf That table is getting out of hand...
14:24 csharp_ yes
14:24 rhamby jvwoolf there's always truncation :)  (well, maybe keep the 9 or so most recently added)
14:25 csharp_ we have anything acq permanently saved everywhere since they don't take up much space and are often needed
14:25 jeff ah, the upcoming SQL command KINDATRUNCATE.
14:26 csharp_ oh how I wish there were a way (beyond filtering them out) that we could stop the open-ils.search NOT CONNECTED errors :-(
14:26 rhamby truncate_everyhing_except_what_I_added
14:27 csharp_ PostgreSQL is compiled with "--mindreading=true"
14:27 jvwoolf rhamby: Well, there's also the never ending "why didn't my patron get this notification" questions
14:28 rhamby jvwoolf that could be a whole conference presentation "all the ways notices can not reach somewhere only some of which we have any control over"
14:29 rhamby I once explained it to a patron "email is like old fashioned letters, we have to write it and address it and all those things but once it goes to the post office it is out of our hands"
14:29 jvwoolf rhamby++
14:30 csharp_ @blame Louis DeJoy for all our email delivery problems
14:30 pinesol csharp_: Louis DeJoy stole bradl's tux doll! for all our email delivery problems
16:14 miker Dyrcona: any objection to just killing array_accum outright?
16:33 Dyrcona miker: I have no objection, but we do use it. Can it be replaced by array_agg?
16:42 miker yep, 100%
16:46 Dyrcona Well, then, we should do that. I can make a branch later unless you beat me to it.
16:47 abneiman Keith-isl++ # that hackaway annoucement, tho
16:48 mmorgan Keith-isl++
16:53 Keith-isl >:)
16:54 Keith-isl I look forward to seeing folks there!
16:54 Keith-isl And I approve in the highest of the Halloween-adjacent timing.
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18:00 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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