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06:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Create Evergreen Database <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//arch​ive/2021-08/2021-08-23_04:00:02/test.41.html>
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11:06 Bmagic I know this bug 1932051. Does that apply to updating a couple hundred items at once? Example: chaning shelving location for 200 items in batch? Which service would that max out?
11:06 pinesol Launchpad bug 1932051 in Evergreen "AngularJS Add to Item Bucket Generating too many simultaneous requests" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1932051
11:06 Bmagic chaning/changing
11:09 berick Bmagic: that bug appears to be specific to adding items to a bucket.  totally different from item batch updates
11:10 Bmagic right on, well, we're seeing issues (post upgrade 3.1 -> 3.7) updating large(er) batches of items. Worked better on 3.1
11:11 Bmagic but, it could* be drone configuration in opensrf.xml combined with 16gb of memory on each brick?
11:13 Bmagic I was contemplating increasing or decreasing the number of drones for some services. On one hand, the bricks run out of memory and die and restart (too many max_children I think), but if I tweak that down, it can't update large batches. These are theories not facts
11:15 berick Bmagic: which interface?
11:15 Bmagic I'll find out
11:17 Bmagic berick: not sure if you saw my thing last week about the "see" authority control question. I attended your talk a few years ago and I wonder if perhaps you had some insight?
11:19 berick Bmagic: hm, I did an authority talk?
11:22 Bmagic I think it was a Q&A cataloging open forum during which authority control was brought up a few times :)
11:26 berick ah, i suspect I dodged most of those questions.  my grasp on authority/browse/sees, etc. is tenuous
11:30 Bmagic :)
11:30 Bmagic berick: got the answer: item bucket
11:32 berick Bmagic: i don't see a way to edit copy location from item bucket
11:39 Bmagic "I selected the items, and went to the Action pull down and Edit selected items." - I suppose this takes them to another interface
11:51 berick item editor performs a batch update on copies, so it should not suffer from the kind of API blasts we've been seeing from bucket actions
11:52 Bmagic I should have known, but I did the routine and, right, it opens a new tab to eg/staff/cat/volcopy/<hash>
11:53 Bmagic hmmm, I guess the only clue would be in the browser console
11:54 berick it's possible the open-ils.cat.asset.copy.fleshed.batch.update API changed as well
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12:43 jeffdavis Bmagic: is bug 1930617 relevant to the batch update problem?
12:43 pinesol Launchpad bug 1930617 in Evergreen "Too many requests when loading Holdings Editor for multiple items" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1930617
12:49 berick jeffdavis++
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15:11 mmorgan What exactly does a Recall Hold (Item Status -> Request Item) do? I can't find documentation other than "Hold-driven recalls"
15:24 jeffdavis I updated 1930617 with my best guess at how all those parallel pcrud calls are happening during batch item updates, but I'm not sure how to serialize them.
15:27 jeffdavis Well, for the call number prefix/suffix lookups the best solution is probably not serializing, but rather caching the results so that itemSvc.get_prefixes and itemSvc.get_suffixes don't need to do a pcrud lookup every time.
15:27 alynn26 mmorgan, Truncates the loan period
15:27 alynn26 Sets the remaining available renewals to 0
15:27 alynn26 Optionally: Changes the fines associated with overdues for the new due date
15:27 alynn26 Optionally: Notifies the current patron of the recall, including the new due date and fine level
15:28 alynn26 It is used more by academic libraries.
15:31 jeff_ it's just an earlier form of off-site print storage... freeing room on the library shelves by allowing faculty to store their favorite library books until they're needed. ;-)
15:31 mmorgan alynn26: Ok, so the same actions that are documented for hold driven recalls: https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/eg/docs​/latest/admin/hold_driven_recalls.html, except initiated by staff.
15:32 mmorgan :)
15:32 alynn26 yes, that is correct.
15:33 alynn26 The name of the section should have been Recalled Holds.  As it is both Hold driven recalls, and staff drive recalls.
15:35 mmorgan Gotcha.
15:36 * mmorgan sees the trigger definition Item recall email notice, so will go from there.
15:36 mmorgan alynn26++
15:39 alynn26 noticed there is nothing in the docs about them in the holds section either.
15:40 alynn26 I might add that to my agenda for fixing the docs.
15:41 mmorgan alynn26: Just a screenshot showing the menu option :)
15:41 mmorgan https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/eg/docs/latest/ca​taloging/item_status.html#_request_items_action
15:42 alynn26 mmorgan ++
15:45 alynn26 y
16:25 Bmagic jeffdavis: yes, I believe it could be related. Though, I just setup a test machine with the database in question and it worked just fine. Though, on production bricks, some of the opensrf children settings are different and can be in different states throughout the day.
16:40 Bmagic importing a single marc record as a test. I'm getting this: TypeError: Cannot read property 'freetext' of undefined
16:41 Bmagic 1. I uploaded my single marc record file into a new queue, without importing, works. Open the queue and choose "Import all records" - select "Merge on single match", Full Overlay. Button lights up, I click it, then get that error in the browser console
16:43 Bmagic I think* it's an angular error? Complaining about some of the modal boxes being empty? They are greyed out though
16:45 jeff likely having an issue with the combobox for queue or template, just on a quick scan.
16:45 jeff I'm not in a position to test / dig further right now, just chiming in. :-)
16:48 Bmagic I just confirmed that if I let the system upload/queue/merge all in one stroke, rather than making the queue THEN* doing the merge, it works
16:49 Bmagic I smells like a bug to me
17:02 Bmagic bug 1940867
17:02 pinesol Launchpad bug 1940867 in Evergreen "Reimporting vandelay queue fails with console error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1940867
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18:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>

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