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06:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
07:09 JBoyer I guess that's finally the end of #evergreen on Freenode. As of ~ 1am it now requires TLS and SASL (good) with their relatively new nickserv database (bad).
07:09 JBoyer csharp_++ # less + v is a good tip!
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11:10 Bmagic Dyrcona (or anyone) - what's a "better" max_stanza_size for bug 1858471 ?
11:10 pinesol Launchpad bug 1858471 in Evergreen "Events with large amount of data can crash action_trigger_runner.pl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1858471
11:16 Dyrcona Bmagic: I'm using 10MB on my utility server that runs action triggers, 10485760.
11:16 Dyrcona I use 2MB everywhere else.
11:17 Bmagic I've got: 2000000
11:17 Bmagic but I like yours better :)
11:17 Dyrcona :)
11:17 Bmagic why not set it like that for all app servers?
11:17 Dyrcona I found some email notices with lots of copies/titles would fail, so I bumped it to 10 million.
11:18 Dyrcona They didn't seem to need it.
11:18 Bmagic right, but could it hurt?
11:18 Bmagic just curious
11:19 Dyrcona It could make some things slower if you do exceed the 2 million limit, but those would have failed, so.....
11:19 Dyrcona It probably wouldn't hurt, but I didn't change it everywhere because it didn't seem to be necessary.
11:19 berick 2MB everywhere here
11:20 Dyrcona I *think* I went to 4MB on the utility server, first, and still had this one user whose auto-renewal notice blew up, so then I went to 10MB.
11:21 Dyrcona There should be some chatter in IRC logs from January of 2019 or 2020 about it.
11:21 Bmagic right, that's what led me to the bug
11:22 Bmagic Perhaps our official install procedure should recommend this setting for ejabberd?
11:22 Bmagic grepping IRC to find that our documentation is lacking....
11:23 Dyrcona It used to recommend setting it to 2 million, then chunking and bundling was added and the instruction was removed. (TBH, I think I had something to do with that whether I did it or just signed off.)
11:24 Dyrcona The trouble with max stanza size is the necessary value can vary by circumstances, so some places might get by with a lower setting.
11:25 Dyrcona And, we might be fine with a certain value, except that one "lost" card or whatever with 1,000 items checked out to it.
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14:17 rlefaive Hello! Does anyone know how to safely kill a Vandelay session? I got ambitious, and started an ingest using marc_stream_importer.pl. But it didn’t complete (maybe because I didn’t use screen?) and  a session in vandelay.session_tracker is still open with no progress, after a few days.  The queue is acting frozen.Any help is appreciated!
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14:28 mmorgan1 rlefaive: The session tracker is a database table, vandelay.session_tracker, that gets updated as the session progresses. We've had situations where something bad happened to the vandelay process and we've had to manually update a session to remove it from the display.
14:51 rlefaive thanks mmorgan!
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15:23 miker Dyrcona/Bmagic: re stanza size and chunking, the modern problem is method param size. I have a WIP for perl and c that should chunk params they /send/ when too big, and Perl def knows how to receive chunked params, but I got badly stuck with teaching js to send chunked params... that's still an issue because of copy and print templates, iirc, but a/t should theoretically be happy with that branch
15:24 miker the js is just abstracted in a very different way from the perl, and I couldn't see how to do it in the existing code
15:25 Dyrcona miker++
15:25 miker without it becoming a sign ball of spaghetti
15:25 Dyrcona Lasagna, but all we have is spaghetti....
15:27 miker if anyone's interested in picking it up to coauthor, I'm happy to push it out for more brains to attack
15:27 miker I don't have tuits for it ATM, but really want it to happen
15:28 Dyrcona Yeah. There has been a long term shortage of tuits.
15:30 Dyrcona I'll take a look at the rebased branch next week. I can't promise that I can do anything with the JavaScript. I'm going to be busy testing Quipu integration.
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18:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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