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00:49 pinesol [evergreen|katiegmartin] update to Antora styleguide - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6cc0732>
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06:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:29 mmorgan Does anyone have a public test server on 3.7?
09:30 rfrasur mmmorgan, I think Mobius' demo server (bugsquash) is 3.7.  But not sure about applying stuff to it.
09:36 mmorgan rfrasur: Thanks, not looking to apply stuff, just poke around. The community servers page lists bugsquash as 3.6, but it could be fibbing. I'll take a look.
09:36 mmorgan rfrasur++
09:37 rfrasur Yep, it's fibbing.  I went to log into the wiki to change it, but couldn't.  lol.  Who knows why?
09:38 rfrasur Also, the EOLI test server is listed as 3.6, but has an About statement as 3.7 if you log into it (bugsquash is just HEAD, but it has 3.7 features).  So not sure of the exact state of the EOLI demo server.
09:42 mmorgan Ok, I see the 'did you mean...' is on the EOLI demo server, but I don't see DYM on the MOBIUS one. MOBIUS does have permissions new in 3.7, though.
09:52 rfrasur lol, so maybe they're both mishmashes.
09:53 rfrasur And it's possible that Mobius didn't turn on the DYM.  I know that SITKA has turned it off for the time being.
09:54 rfrasur I think I was looking at the circ limit set that's new in 3.7 and it was on M but not E.
10:10 mmorgan Evergreen 3.mishmash :)
10:12 JBoyer demo.evergreencatalog.com is stock 3.7, but sometimes I forget to update the wiki. :)
10:13 mmorgan JBoyer++
10:13 mmorgan wiki updated!
10:13 JBoyer Ah, I wondered who just beat me to it. :D
10:13 JBoyer mmorgan++
10:13 rfrasur mmorgan++
10:14 mmorgan So is it safe to also update MOBIUS to 3.7?
10:14 rfrasur I was tryin' to ping Bmagic about it, but had to run before he saw it.
10:14 rfrasur I'd probably hold off to confirm.
10:15 mmorgan That's what I was thinking.
10:15 Bmagic huh?
10:15 rfrasur Bmagic, is the bugsquash install 3.7 now?
10:15 rfrasur the demo server?
10:16 rfrasur It's listed on the wiki as 3.6, but looks like 3.7.
10:17 Bmagic It's master, with some bug patches on top. Master as of our last bug squash week
10:17 * rfrasur was also able to log into the wiki.  Good.  Lord.  someone put me in a home.
10:17 rfrasur Ah hah!!
10:17 JBoyer And should it be on the wiki or is it more of a bugsquash / feedback fest thing
10:18 * JBoyer only wonders because of the name
10:18 Bmagic someone decided it needed to be listed as an official community teste server
10:19 JBoyer If someone wasn't at MOBIUS then I'd say it's up to you since rfrasur is already logged in. :)
10:19 Bmagic I don't mind it being listed there, but the exact version is hard to pin down and keep up-to-date on the wiki
10:19 Dyrcona HEAD could be anything, really.
10:20 rfrasur Yeah...exactly as all y'all said.  Checking something though.
10:20 Bmagic right, I'm looking at the git log right now to try to answer the question
10:21 Bmagic I'm not sure where master ends and my merges begin
10:21 rfrasur JBoyer, question then.  So, circ limit sets are listed as 3.7 and slid in under the wire.  But on the evergreencatalog server, that interface is still in dogo (sorry, typo, but I liked it so kept it...dojo).
10:22 JBoyer Dogocoin is how you buy antiques in the new internet.
10:22 rfrasur This is pertinent to conference thing, and I just wanna be accurate with what I'm saying.
10:23 * rfrasur has no dogocoin and wants no antiques.  Unless there's a physical dogocoin with a cute dog face on it.
10:23 JBoyer Anyway, there is something I need to check on there, but it uses the tarballs to build, so it should be whatever stock 3.7.0 is.
10:24 rfrasur Okay.
10:24 rfrasur I wonder if that angular port was a patch then.
10:26 JBoyer possibly, or one of the first things that made it in for 3.7.1?
10:26 rfrasur Oh, yes.  That's very possible.
10:26 rfrasur Tres bon.  As always, you rock.  Thanks for talkin' me through it a little.
10:26 JBoyer rfrasur++
10:26 rfrasur JBoyer++
10:38 Bmagic docs.evergreen-ils.org down?
10:39 Bmagic I can get to the shell
10:42 Bmagic weird, apache is running. logs are flowing. pages are blank
10:42 Bmagic oh, no, it's me
10:43 mmorgan Bmagic: Why the blank look? ;-)
10:43 Bmagic haha
10:43 Bmagic mmorgan++
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12:17 Bmagic are there any special considerations when running a reingest on a 3.7 DB? I'm seeing tons of Shared Locked Rows
12:22 pastebot "Bmagic" at 168.25.130.30 pasted "pingest errors on 3.7" (11 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10144
12:24 Dyrcona Bmagic: Don't use pingest and do it serially. Wait days for it to finish.
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12:51 jeffdavis We've left symspell.search_dictionary unpopulated and disabled the metabib.*_field_entry triggers that maintain it to avoid problems like that.
12:56 jeffdavis I think the more immediate issues for us weren't parallel ingest, but extremely slow bib updates and slow page loads for zero-hit search results.
12:56 Bmagic hmm
12:57 Bmagic Dyrcona: don't use pingest? Can't we just use it but set max-child to "1" ?
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15:13 sandbergja_ Do any of you have some staff guidelines about identifying spam requests in the Patron Self-registration form?  We're pretty new to using it, and our circ staff is looking for some good rules of thumb.
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15:18 jeff we only take action on pending patrons when they visit the library. do you do something with them beforehand?
15:20 sandbergja_ jeff: We only started using it during COVID-times, so we never had the visit the library piece. :-)  We take action on them when we spot them (by doing a quick zoom to confirm their identity, then loading them)
15:28 JBoyer Hey-o, I'm going to start working on the Dev update for the Evergreen Online Conference and I know many of you have done interesting things in the last year and / or have interesting things planned for the next, please let me know if you'd like to help out (and to what email you'd like a Google Sheets link to be sent) and we can work on it together.
15:31 Dyrcona Bmagic: I missed your earlier question. Yes, you could set max-child to 1, but it will run serially then, so it's like not using pingest.
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18:00 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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