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06:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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08:41 Dyrcona Grr.We had a blue field across the top of the catalog, and it seems to be gone. It appears on our training server behind our training server message. I have not been able to figure out what is different between our training server and production after looking at diffs, etc., for an hour.
09:04 Dyrcona It looks like that may have gotten removed at some point while I was resolving conflicts in style.css.tt2... However, training has the same style.css.tt2 as production.
09:07 Dyrcona And, I've checked for the 3rd time that the style.css.tt2 is installed on training....
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09:29 Bmagic Dyrcona: When I get in that situation, I peel back the whole override to stock, then add one override at a time until something clicks
09:35 Dyrcona Bmagic: Ain't nobody got time for that! :)
09:36 Dyrcona Not to mention that I squashed a bunch of things over time.
09:36 Dyrcona I'm going to fire up a stock vm anyway. I could be gasligthing myself.
09:42 Dyrcona Bmagic++
09:42 Dyrcona I was sorta gaslighting myself.
09:44 Dyrcona It looks like we remove the background because it obscured part of our new logo as well as our color changes to the My Account "button."
09:44 Dyrcona It only looks like the blue field appears on training because of where I added the "training server -- do not use for live transactions" warning.
09:45 Dyrcona That also took too long to figure out.... :(
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09:46 Bmagic :)
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10:00 Dyrcona Yeah, I'm just crazy.... :)
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13:16 Dyrcona customization--
13:20 rfrasur NeedingCustomization--
13:28 Dyrcona rfrasur++
13:29 Dyrcona @karma krvmga
13:29 pinesol Dyrcona: krvmga has neutral karma.
13:29 Dyrcona @karma tspindler
13:29 pinesol Dyrcona: tspindler has neutral karma.
13:29 Dyrcona Haven't been around lately.
13:29 Dyrcona @seen krvmga
13:29 pinesol Dyrcona: krvmga was last seen in #evergreen 2 years, 5 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 9 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <krvmga> i'm not sure if i'm missing something or if it's just not possible
13:29 Dyrcona @seen tspindler
13:29 pinesol Dyrcona: tspindler was last seen in #evergreen 3 years, 12 weeks, 0 days, 21 hours, 46 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <tspindler> #endmeeting
14:03 csharp maybe we need a @lastwords plugin :-)
14:47 Dyrcona Heh.
14:48 Dyrcona csharp: It seemed appropriate to me that tspindler's last word was #endmeeting. I almost added it as a quote.
14:48 csharp it's good
15:13 jeff we're sending a bunch of cards by mail, and I don't want them to work for physical checkout (especially self checkout) until the patrons interact with a staff member (mostly confirming something like DOB). Rather than inventing a new column on actor.card, I might just do it as a standing penalty that only blocks SIP usage when the card in question is presented.
15:13 jeff either way, bit hacky.
15:13 jeff does anyone else here do something similar?
15:17 JBoyer jeff, Would making them inactive help? Or possibly expiring them "yesterday"
15:17 JBoyer (since searching for inactive users can be tricky if you forget the checkbox.)
15:18 JBoyer I'm not sure how much you *do* want them to be able to do pre-staff-interaction.
15:19 jeff making the card inactive would prevent the card number from being used to log in and place holds, etc.
15:19 jeff it would also block them from using services that use patronapi-style lookup, like hoopla and kanopy.
15:20 jeff (and I just noticed you asked about making the PATRON inactive, not the card)
15:20 jeff similar issues, though.
15:20 jeff expiring them would block their ability to do things like renew items that they may already have checked out.
15:21 Dyrcona jeff: What about adding a block on checkout?
15:26 jeff a standing penalty with CHECKOUT block is another option. it has the side effect of getting in the way of use of the patron's existing card (if any).
15:27 Dyrcona Why would you issue this card if the patron already has another? Error?
15:27 jeff I'm leaning toward an alerting standing penalty without blocks (but we'd be teaching SIPServer to "block" on this standing penalty).
15:28 jeff We are intentionally issuing additional cards to a large group of patrons as part of a school partnership. They will likely be distributed by postal mail.
15:28 jeff (Some existing patrons may already have a physical card, but others may have lost theirs, never had one, etc.)
15:29 jeff this is ALMOST but not quite like a credit card requiring "activation" before use.
15:30 jeff If we do more of this kind of thing I'd actually like to permit online activation without staff interaction, but we'll see.
15:32 Dyrcona Well, phone activation would be a neat feature, but not cheap to implement.
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16:58 Bmagic I'd like to request a core committer to commit this to master if possible: bug 1927534
16:58 pinesol Launchpad bug 1927534 in Evergreen "Docs: Need documentation on how to contribute Documentation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1927534
16:59 Bmagic You can see it rendered here: https://docs.evergreen-ils.org/eg/docs/l‚Äčatest/shared/how_to_contribute_docs.html
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18:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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