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06:00 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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07:53 csharp Yeah, still on "title" - this will definitely have to be done outside a normal upgrade window somehow
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08:43 Dyrcona I build custom dojo again with the security branch that I was talking about yesterday. The custom dojo negated some of the effect of the security patches, so I think it is OK to remove the openils_dojo.js references and the profile.
08:46 Dyrcona I wonder if the order matters.... IIRC, I got the security branch to work yesterday with custom dojo by reinstalling it after putting custom dojo in place. Anyway, we're trying to get rid of dojo, so....
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09:29 miker csharp: yes, the upgrade script will take a long time ... one thing you can do to speed it up, I found, was to issue that CLUSTER command every couple minutes while it's churning on the huge pile of selects
09:40 miker and, afaiu, there shouldn't be a need for full reingest from other 3.7 features
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09:49 csharp miker: thanks - I'll give it a shot
09:52 Dyrcona *sings* Bye, bye, openils_dojo.js...
10:05 Dyrcona Am I the only one: ssh: connect to host git.evergreen-ils.org port 22: Connection timed out?
10:05 csharp lemme look
10:06 berick Dyrcona: no issues here
10:06 csharp same
10:06 csharp (as berick )
10:07 Dyrcona Well, I've been having "fun" connecting to CWMARS collocation facility today, too. A speed test says everything is A-OK on my end, so I suspect routing issues between Verizon and certain other networks, maybe.
10:08 Dyrcona I'll try a trace route next to see where (if) it dies. Also the issues are intermittent.
10:10 Dyrcona Of course, it is working right now, 51ms response time.
10:12 pinesol [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1617556 - Remove openils_dojo.js references - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3e9241c>
10:12 pinesol [evergreen|Jeff Davis] LP#1076582: remove reference to openils_dojo.js from Bootstrap OPAC - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d0df70a>
10:12 Dyrcona We're also getting tickets that some of our libraries are having issues connecting to Evergreen, so I'm not alone in that, at least. :(
10:12 pinesol [evergreen|Jason Stephenson] LP#1076582: Remove Custom Dojo Build Profile and Add Release Note - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1e767bb>
10:15 sandbergja csharp++
10:15 sandbergja jeffdavis++
10:15 sandbergja Dyrcona++
10:16 Dyrcona Oddly enough, Launchpad has been rock solid for me today. :)
10:20 Dyrcona https://www.thousandeyes.com/outages/
10:21 jeff Dyrcona: Verizon is/was having a terrible morning on the east coast. You're not alone.
10:21 Dyrcona UUNET Verizon Busines and Level 3 either or both could be contributing.
10:21 Dyrcona jeff: Yeahp.
10:36 miker csharp: you'll probably see a massive reduction in drive use with that CLUSTER, too.  I literally just put it in a `while sleep 120; do CLUSTER COMMAND; done` shell loop :)
10:37 csharp miker: I did see it move a bit faster with the CLUSTER command - I'll try your loop too
10:39 miker csharp: also, I'm considering writing a one-off build-the-dictionary perl script and then load with COPY ... but I don't really want to effectively reimplement symspell yet again, tbh
10:39 csharp sure
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12:28 rhamby Dyrcona I didn't think you were having a semantic debate, I just was commenting that I think it could have easily become one.  :)  I was pretty confidant you'd reserve the semantic debate for a different setting, probably with liquid accompaniment :)
12:30 Dyrcona Uh-huh. :)
12:50 csharp @ana semantic debate
12:50 pinesol csharp: I am decent beast
13:00 sandbergja pinesol++
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13:24 Dyrcona @ana semantic debate in
13:24 pinesol Dyrcona: I am indecent beast
13:24 Dyrcona :)
13:35 csharp Dyrcona++
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13:44 csharp seeing open-ils.circ drone exhaustion with this call: open-ils.search.biblio.rec​ord.catalog_summary.staff
13:45 csharp looks like it creates a crazy amount of this: open-ils.circ.bre.holds.count
13:49 Dyrcona Been a while since I've seen circ drone exhaustion, but I recall it being related to holds the last time it happened.
13:50 berick csharp: is this the one where someone was searching the catalog w/ a limit 10000 or something?
13:50 berick sound familiar
13:51 csharp hmm - lemme see
13:52 berick i seem to recall we had trouble reproducing it
13:52 csharp typical call in the logs looks like this:
13:52 csharp open-ils.search open-ils.search.biblio.rec​ord.catalog_summary.staff 1, [5659068,5050101,376379,2345860,5493793,​712608,4603938,4948077,5972214,2278957]
13:54 berick hm, that should result in 10 open-ils.circ.bre.holds.count calls, but they are serialized, not in parallel
13:54 csharp ok -hmm
13:55 berick so, yeah, for that bit the search result size should not matter
13:55 csharp where I've started is that I'm seeing a sudden exhaustion of open-ils.circ drones on individual bricks (limit currently 60, thinking of upping it to 120)
13:56 berick csharp: did you pick that API just because it gets called a lot?
13:56 csharp and that call was the most prevalent on one of the affected servers at the time I checked
13:56 csharp yeah
13:56 berick k
13:57 berick well, if there are more search drones than circ drones, raising circ drones is probably a good idea
13:57 csharp grep open-ils.circ osrfsys.13.log | grep -v cstore | grep CALL | grep <servername> | awk '{print $8}' | sort | uniq -c is my current way of figuring out what's up (works on our logs anyway :-) )
13:57 berick since in this case anyway, the search api makes circ api calls
13:57 csharp yeah - I'll do that
13:58 berick csharp: are you all using the new catalog?  a mix?
13:58 csharp we're using the Angular staff catalog, but probably a mix for stodgy people who hate change
13:59 csharp also using the bootstrap OPAC, so lotso changes with this upgrade, which have been the bane of my existence since January
13:59 csharp upgrade itself was very smooth - aftermath decidedly not
13:59 csharp before I was a sys admin I loved new things :-/
14:12 Dyrcona @quote add csharp: before I was a sys admin I loved new things :-/
14:12 pinesol Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.  Quote #214 added.
14:12 JBoyer csharp++
14:52 csharp berick++ # servers are happier with more circ drones - thanks for that suggestion
14:53 * csharp adds that to The Care and Feeding of Your Very Own Evergreen Servers pamphlet
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14:54 csharp https://tinyurl.com/hdw9dmzj
14:55 rfrasur csharp++ # the cavorting and capering of Evergreen servers tho...
14:56 rhamby for everyone question - who has access to the pinesol list and can get me an export of the list of quotes
14:56 Dyrcona I could go for some cavorting capers.....on toast! :)
14:57 Dyrcona I can, in theory. In practice I'm not sure how the quotes are stored.
14:57 csharp I'm looking now
14:57 csharp I think it's all in flat files, but I may be wrong
14:59 csharp got it
14:59 csharp rfrasur: I'll get it to you
15:00 rfrasur ...me?
15:01 csharp sorry rhamby
15:01 rfrasur Dyrcona, maybe with some cream cheese on the toast before the capers.  How they cavort though.  This gives me pause.
15:01 Dyrcona rfrasur++
15:01 Dyrcona csharp++ I was just looking, too.
15:02 rfrasur csharp, no worries.  Just makin' sure I hadn't missed something (which is the rule rather than the exception).
15:02 rhamby csharp++ thanks!
15:04 Dyrcona It's a CSV file.
15:05 Dyrcona ...with some extra junk.
15:07 Dyrcona It keeps the deleted quotes, too....
15:07 Dyrcona Oh well. Back to "work."
15:09 csharp rhamby: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qcp2d--4rp​K_kFbVQZ6hZaCvir3XLd1B8lnLrVNFsfo/edit?usp=sharing
15:10 rhamby csharp++ thanks!
15:10 csharp sure
15:10 csharp I tried to clean up some syntax-y junk - I can still see some of it there, but I'm sure you can handle it :-)
15:11 rhamby it is all good :)
15:11 Dyrcona csharp: The lines that began all dashes were deleted.
15:11 Dyrcona We're not the only ones to just flag things as deleted. :)
15:14 csharp ah - makes sense
15:15 Dyrcona A couple of the deleted ones were me playing around/figuring the commands out.
15:16 csharp ok, I updated the spreadsheet by deleting the rows that were "deleted" in the quotes DB
15:19 Dyrcona csharp++ but it looks like quotes with commas in them got cut off. :(
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15:29 csharp oh, that's my fault
15:30 Dyrcona Google sheets has trouble with a copy that I made.
15:31 csharp raw file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LkCm8a8l​_hL01lHZhao-AeNZFDp38Drc/view?usp=sharing
15:31 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] add an acknowledgment destined for the 3.7 release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=c225e3e>
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15:33 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] update the note to include the institution - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=cea475f>
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18:00 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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18:55 csharp ao about 2 1/4 days to process the title DYM stuff, now onto author
18:55 csharp s/ao/so/
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