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dwebster |
hello guys |
| 02:57 |
dwebster |
I trust you're all doing well |
| 02:59 |
dwebster |
please, I need your assistance to resolve an issue with our installation. |
| 03:00 |
dwebster |
when I want to checkout a book from circulation, i get this error log in my console |
| 03:00 |
dwebster |
error calling method open-ils.circ.checkout.full : 500 : *** Call to [open-ils.circ.checkout.full] failed for session [0.9894426572134441608190741252], thread trace [0]:Invalid offset: true |
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dwebster |
can anyone point me in the right direction to resolve this? |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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csharp |
jeffdavis: sorry, I lost internet right around the time you asked me that about https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1896285/comments/7 - berick said he was able to reproduce it. I believe it happens when catalogers create a bunch of new copies in the volcopy editor for a library that is not the workstation's branch |
| 07:33 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1896285 in Evergreen "Use batch methods for multi-row grid actions" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Bill Erickson (berick) |
| 08:00 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
are other consortia with large pull lists running into bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1768022 |
| 08:00 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1768022 in Evergreen 3.5 "Webclient Holds Pull List Returns 0 Results" [Undecided,Confirmed] |
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rjackson_isl_hom |
are there any workarounds if so? We have sites attempting to print their pull lists without success |
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csharp |
rjackson_isl_hom: as Terran pointed out in the bug thread, looks like we haven't seen the issue in 3.4 |
| 10:15 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
csharp it sounds like we "started" seeing it again after our upgrade |
| 10:21 |
Dyrcona |
rjackson_isl_hom: Are you running out of cstore or other drones? |
| 10:22 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
not that I am aware of - but it has been really hectic last couple of weeks |
| 10:23 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
csharp would that show up as an ERR in the log (grep) |
| 10:36 |
Dyrcona |
rjackson_isl_hom: I doubt it. It's going to look like a timeout, i.e. a request thread that goes nowhere. |
| 10:37 |
Dyrcona |
I have a question for the docs team: Developers don't have to do anything differently when adding a release note since the switch to Antora, do we? |
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csharp |
rjackson_isl_hom: you might search the opensrf log for "stateful" (as in "exiting stateful session") |
| 10:57 |
Dyrcona |
Whee! If what I'm working on goes in, I'll have a conflict to resolve in my custom branches. |
| 10:59 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
csharp see lots of these: No request was received in 6 seconds, exiting stateful session - this for module osrf_prefork.c |
| 10:59 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, I see lots of those, too. The trick is tracing them back to something relevant. |
| 11:00 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
36 in about an hour |
| 11:00 |
Dyrcona |
Sounds about right. I suppose I could count ours. |
| 11:02 |
Dyrcona |
We had 135 in the previous hour. |
| 11:03 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
one transaction had this just before several of the time outs: CALL: open-ils.storage open-ils.storage.actor.org_unit.closed_date.overlap 137, 2021-01-07T10:25:34-0500 |
| 11:04 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, the code for that call is broken: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1901191 |
| 11:04 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1901191 in Evergreen "open-ils.storage.actor.org_unit.closed_date.overlap can hang and gives inconsistent results" [High,Confirmed] |
| 11:05 |
Dyrcona |
Also, asciidoclive.com++ |
| 11:05 |
* Dyrcona |
bookmarks it. |
| 11:07 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
bumped hest on bug at elast :( |
| 11:07 |
rjackson_isl_hom |
s/elast/least |
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terranm |
It appears as of 3.5 that the staff client can't be used on any mobile device - we're definitely seeing this in our 3.6 testing (on our test servers as well as the community demo server) - https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1901760 |
| 12:11 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1901760 in Evergreen "Staff Client Whitescreen on login on all browsers on iOS/Android" [High,Confirmed] |
| 12:11 |
terranm |
Anyone have any thoughts? |
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| 12:24 |
Dyrcona |
The error message about shared workers not being supported says it all. You can't use it on Android until either shared workers are supported in a mobile browser or the staff client is reimplemented to no not use shared workers. |
| 12:26 |
terranm |
Wow, that's a pretty major reduction in staff functionality |
| 12:28 |
Dyrcona |
That's web development. |
| 12:28 |
tlittle |
Is that specific to Android, or would that go for iOS as well? |
| 12:28 |
Dyrcona |
I have no idea. The bug says it also affects iOS. |
| 12:29 |
tlittle |
Ah okay. You had specifically mentioned Android, so I wasn't sure if there was some difference between them in how they handle shared workers. |
| 12:31 |
jeff |
Shared workers appear to be supported on Firefox on Android, but not supported on any iOS browser (they all use mobile Safari, iirc). |
| 12:35 |
berick |
shared workers are responsible for a relitively small set of functionality, mainly offline IIRC. it's conceivable we could make clients that don't support them still be mostly functional. |
| 12:35 |
* jeff |
nods |
| 12:36 |
jeff |
indeed, much of the code that mentions shared workers appears to at least acknowledge the idea that not all browsers will support them. |
| 12:36 |
berick |
right |
| 12:36 |
jeff |
However it wouldn't surprise me if that's lightly tested. |
| 12:37 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, what jeff said. I just logged into training with Firefox on Android 10. |
| 12:37 |
Dyrcona |
It's running 3.6.1. |
| 12:37 |
jeff |
eg2 also uses a shared worker for IndexDB in Open-ILS/src/eg2/src/app/core/db-store.service.ts, I think? |
| 12:38 |
jeff |
er, I meant to first mention that upup and lovecraft both use shared workers. I think I edited that line away. :-) |
| 12:39 |
Dyrcona |
Doesn't seem to be a way to logout. |
| 12:41 |
Dyrcona |
Oh, interesting. It appears that the hamburger appears at the bottom of the hamburger menu added on mobile for the bar, but it didn't show up until I expanded a menu entry. |
| 12:41 |
Dyrcona |
I don't know why you'd want to use the staff client on a phone, except maybe to check things out. A tablet makes more sense to me. |
| 12:42 |
tlittle |
I just installed Firefox on my iPad and am still seeing the whitescreen on my master server. Let me try one of the community servers... |
| 12:43 |
Dyrcona |
tlittle: See what Jeff said above. There really is no Firefox or Chrome on iOS. Apple forces all of the browswers to use Apple's web engine. They can't use their own. So if Safari can't do it, neither can the other browsers. |
| 12:44 |
tlittle |
Dyrcona Ah, I misunderstood that, thanks for explaining |
| 12:46 |
Dyrcona |
I get the whitescreen on Chrome on my phone. Think I'll try Firefox on my tablet. It's an older Android release. |
| 12:47 |
Dyrcona |
The hamburger doesn't show up on Chrome, probably because I'm stuck on the register a workstation page. |
| 12:48 |
jeff |
enabled usb debugging on my phone, realized that i have... a lot of tabs open. |
| 12:53 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 12:53 |
Dyrcona |
It works on my tablet, too, Android 8.1. Both my tablet and phone have Firefox 83.1.0. |
| 12:54 |
Dyrcona |
I realized that I need to charge my tablet. It's at 23%. |
| 12:56 |
csharp |
tlittle: next.gapines.org is working on my android phone running Firefox |
| 13:01 |
jeff |
I would be curious to know which version of Evergreen it had previously worked in for the original reporter. |
| 13:01 |
jeff |
Or for PINES, if you have a known working / not-working version number. |
| 13:01 |
tlittle |
We're running production on 3.4.1 and it works |
| 13:02 |
jeff |
I wonder if this is a regression of an older bug. |
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* jeff |
goes digging |
| 13:03 |
jeff |
ah, i was thinking of bug 1746020 and that was slightly different (BroadcastChannel) |
| 13:03 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1746020 in Evergreen "Unable to log into web client on iOS" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746020 |
| 13:04 |
* Dyrcona |
nods. |
| 13:11 |
jeff |
similar also to Dyrcona's issue last month with Firefox private browsing not supporting IndexedDB |
| 13:13 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, I suppose so. |
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Dyrcona |
So, I just had two thoughts while looking at the web staff client on mobile: 1. Would it possible to get the browser input to work with a barcode scanner software? (I think yes.) and 2. Would it be possible to put QR codes on items that could be photographed/scanned to trigger a checkin or checkout as appropriate in Evergreen? (I also think yes, but it would be a lot more work that 1.) |
| 13:33 |
Dyrcona |
It would probably be more efficient to use a bluetooth barcode scanner. |
| 13:35 |
* JBoyer |
rings a bell, shouts "The Evergreen Project Board Meeting at 2! All's swell!" |
| 13:36 |
terranm |
At one point I installed a custom keyboard on my Android that included a scan button so I could scan from a mobile device... trying to remember what keyboard that was... |
| 13:36 |
* JBoyer |
may be the only person that heard that in Nutsy's voice from Disney's Robin Hood. Perhaps not now! |
| 13:37 |
tlittle |
JBoyer: I was literally just pulling that up on YouTube! So glad it's not just me! |
| 13:37 |
tlittle |
I was deciding whether or not I should post it here haha |
| 13:37 |
JBoyer |
tlittle++ :D |
| 13:38 |
JBoyer |
On the barcode front, I'd also prefer a bluetooth scanner, but I *think* both Android and iOS have custom keyboards available that can do the scanning without specialized hardware. |
| 13:39 |
terranm |
The one I tested before for Android was "Barcode & QR code Keyboard" by Nikola Antonov but there are a bunch now. At the time, iOS didn't have one, but it looks like they do no |
| 13:39 |
terranm |
*now |
| 13:41 |
Dyrcona |
terranm: Thanks. I may give that keyboard a whirl to see how well that works. |
| 13:41 |
terranm |
I found out the hard way that a lot of scanners marketed as bluetooth scanners only communicate between the scanner and a piece of scanner equipment connected to a computer via USB, they would not communicate with a phone |
| 13:42 |
terranm |
That was probably 2 years ago, so hopefully there is something better now |
| 13:43 |
Dyrcona |
Well, I wasn't thinking of getting a bluetooth scanner for myself. Just thinking out loud that it would be the "better" option. |
| 13:43 |
terranm |
+1 |
| 13:44 |
terranm |
We were trying to find more efficient ways to do inventory at the time I was testing |
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Dyrcona |
Yes, that a mobile device would be useful for inventory. |
| 13:48 |
Dyrcona |
s/that// |
| 13:49 |
jeffdavis |
I already regret typing this, but perhaps we should have a lightweight mobile app for basic circ + inventory functions |
| 13:49 |
jeffdavis |
(for iOS) |
| 13:51 |
JBoyer |
Given that we're only 1 or 2 infrequently-used web features from just being able to use the client I don't know that we need to go that far yet. |
| 13:51 |
JBoyer |
I think kenstir is looking at adding more features to Hemlock that might make that more appealing, but that needn't be the alternative to not having service workers. |
| 13:52 |
JBoyer |
Only alternative, that is. |
| 13:52 |
nfBurton |
You can use a corded barcode scanner with an Android device and an OnTheGo adapter. Or some kind of USB adapter. They're cheaper than a whole Bluetooth scanner |
| 13:53 |
nfBurton |
We recently did an inventory with laptops on carts as well as some android devices |
| 13:54 |
terranm |
nfBurton: Ooh, good to know! |
| 13:57 |
Dyrcona |
I recommend looking into microfrontends for certain features. I've implemented one for batch undeleting copies before I knew what microfronteds were. |
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JBoyer |
TEP Board meeting immenent. |
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JBoyer |
OHAI |
| 14:00 |
JBoyer |
#startmeeting EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17 |
| 14:00 |
pinesol |
Meeting started Thu Dec 17 14:00:51 2020 US/Eastern. The chair is JBoyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 14:00 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:00 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to 'eob_evergreen_project_board_meeting_for_2020_12_17__agenda__https___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_php_id_governance_minutes_2020_12_17' |
| 14:00 |
JBoyer |
#topic Roll Call |
| 14:00 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Roll Call (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:01 |
JBoyer |
Say hello |
| 14:01 |
JBoyer |
with info |
| 14:01 |
JBoyer |
#info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, Equinox |
| 14:01 |
dluch |
#info dluch = Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS |
| 14:01 |
rhamby |
@info rhamby = Rogan Hamby, Equinox |
| 14:01 |
pinesol |
rhamby: (info <url|feed>) -- Returns information from the given RSS feed, namely the title, URL, description, and last update date, if available. |
| 14:01 |
tlittle1 |
#info = tlittle1 = Tiffany Little, PINES |
| 14:01 |
jlundgren |
#info jlundgren = Jeanette Lundgren, CW MARS |
| 14:01 |
rhamby |
#info rhamby = Rogan Hamby, Equinox |
| 14:01 |
jvwoolf |
#info jvwoolf = Jessica Woolford = Bibliomation |
| 14:01 |
JBoyer |
rhamby++ I did not know pinesol had such powers. |
| 14:01 |
Cowens |
#info Cowens = Chris Owens, COOL/BPL |
| 14:02 |
rhamby |
heh |
| 14:02 |
JBoyer |
agoben won't be able to make it today, but we might wait a second for gmcharlt or nfBurton |
| 14:03 |
gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, EOLI |
| 14:03 |
nfBurton |
#info cburton = Chris Burton, NFPL |
| 14:03 |
JBoyer |
The gang's (almost) all here! |
| 14:03 |
JBoyer |
#topic Approval of the minutes |
| 14:03 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Approval of the minutes (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:03 |
JBoyer |
#info November minutes available at http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-11-19-14.02.html |
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| 14:04 |
JBoyer |
I have much more of this meeting pre-scripted, so say something if I start going too quickly. Also, I'll happily accept a motion to approve the minutes from November. |
| 14:04 |
dluch |
I move to approve the November minutes |
| 14:05 |
jvwoolf |
Second |
| 14:05 |
JBoyer |
#startvote Approve minutes from November meeting? yes no abstain |
| 14:05 |
pinesol |
Begin voting on: Approve minutes from November meeting? Valid vote options are yes, no, abstain. |
| 14:05 |
pinesol |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:05 |
nfBurton |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
JBoyer |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
jlundgren |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
Cowens |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
tlittle1 |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
dluch |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
jvwoolf |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
gmcharlt |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
JBoyer |
#endvote |
| 14:05 |
pinesol |
Voted on "Approve minutes from November meeting?" Results are |
| 14:05 |
pinesol |
yes (8): nfBurton, JBoyer, jvwoolf, Cowens, jlundgren, gmcharlt, dluch, tlittle1 |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
next up is the |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
#topic Chair Report |
| 14:06 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Chair Report (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
Since the last meeting I've gotten in touch with Dilly and the SFC. |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
Dilly is aware of our officer changes and there's no need to do any paperwork for the MO Sec of State, our annual report and 990 suffice. |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
I've gotten a reply from the SFC so we're finally back in communication and the CC list for future communication in this regard includes all of the officers and Anna since she was involved and is interested in seeing it through. More to come later. |
| 14:06 |
JBoyer |
That's all from me unless there are questions |
| 14:07 |
JBoyer |
ok, on to |
| 14:07 |
JBoyer |
#topic Treasurer's Report |
| 14:07 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Treasurer's Report (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:07 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt, has much occurred since last month? |
| 14:08 |
gmcharlt |
JBoyer: hold on |
| 14:08 |
JBoyer |
+1 I have copied, but will not pasta. |
| 14:09 |
gmcharlt |
#info Funds in hand held by TEP and MOBIUS on behalf of TEP total 41424.74 |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt |
#info Receipts of donations since the previous meeting totalled $10,000 |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt |
#info One pledge of $2,500 is still pending |
| 14:11 |
gmcharlt |
#info Expenditures since the previous meeting total $40 for the QuickBooks subscription |
| 14:11 |
gmcharlt |
#info We are up to date with respect to all financial obligations |
| 14:11 |
gmcharlt |
#info As will be discussed later in the agenda, we finally have contact from SFC regarding the transfer |
| 14:11 |
gmcharlt |
fin |
| 14:12 |
dluch |
gmcharlt: Are the donations included in the 41424.74 or are those separate? |
| 14:12 |
JBoyer |
Very nice. |
| 14:13 |
gmcharlt |
dluch: they're included, the total reflect the donations, the account held by MOBIUS originally funded by the grant from SFC as well as 2019 conference revenue, less attorney expenses and professional services due to MOBIUS |
| 14:13 |
dluch |
Thank you! |
| 14:14 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:14 |
tlittle1 |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:14 |
dluch |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:14 |
jlundgren |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:14 |
jvwoolf |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:14 |
JBoyer |
Next up is release updates |
| 14:14 |
JBoyer |
#topic Release Team Updates |
| 14:14 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Release Team Updates (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:14 |
nfBurton |
gmcharlt++ |
| 14:15 |
JBoyer |
Is there anything to report on the 3.7 release team front, or has December Decembered you all to date? |
| 14:17 |
JBoyer |
There may be more activity once the end of the year has ended. |
| 14:17 |
JBoyer |
#topic Committee and Task Force Reports |
| 14:17 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Committee and Task Force Reports (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:17 |
JBoyer |
#topic Outreach Update |
| 14:17 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Outreach Update (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:17 |
JBoyer |
#info Update from Rogan: http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/board/2020-December/000208.html |
| 14:17 |
rhamby |
nothing to add beyond what is in the emailed update but questions are welcome as always |
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| 14:18 |
JBoyer |
mantis1++ for contributor of the month and working on the Hatch video |
| 14:18 |
JBoyer |
rhamby++ |
| 14:18 |
jvwoolf |
mantis1++ |
| 14:18 |
tlittle1 |
mantis1++ |
| 14:18 |
jvwoolf |
rhamby++ |
| 14:19 |
dluch |
rhamby++ |
| 14:19 |
tlittle1 |
rhamby++ |
| 14:19 |
jlundgren |
rhamby++ |
| 14:19 |
dluch |
mantis1++ |
| 14:19 |
jlundgren |
mantis1++ |
| 14:19 |
JBoyer |
#topic Fundraising Subcommittee Update |
| 14:19 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Fundraising Subcommittee Update (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:20 |
gmcharlt |
no update I believe; will need to regroup to in January |
| 14:20 |
JBoyer |
+1 |
| 14:20 |
JBoyer |
#topic 2021 Conference Committee |
| 14:20 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now 2021 Conference Committee (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:21 |
JBoyer |
I saw that the save-the-date went out, any other updates or questions? |
| 14:21 |
dluch |
The sponsorships subcommittee is meeting next week. Will figure out onliney sponsorship opportunities |
| 14:22 |
JBoyer |
#info Conference Announcement is here http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/evergreen-general/2020-December/000182.html |
| 14:22 |
JBoyer |
dluch++ |
| 14:22 |
rhamby |
I don't know if abneiman is available but the basics is that we are getting a lot organized and information on platform, price, sponsorhips and more will be out soon |
| 14:22 |
JBoyer |
Sounds good. |
| 14:22 |
JBoyer |
That brings us to my next large block of text: |
| 14:23 |
JBoyer |
#topic Old Business |
| 14:23 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Old Business (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:23 |
gmcharlt |
and there should be a full budgetary proposal ready for the board at or before the January meeting |
| 14:23 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt++ that's great. |
| 14:23 |
JBoyer |
#topic SFC Transition |
| 14:23 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now SFC Transition (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:24 |
JBoyer |
#info JBoyer has gotten in touch with SFC, we're back in communication on their actively tracked ticketing system and while it is not guaranteed, it may be possible to transfer the Evergreen trademark and nearly all of our remaining funds to The Evergreen Project as soon as 2021-02-28. |
| 14:24 |
JBoyer |
Part of the delay is the imminent closing of their 2019 (yes) audit, and I say "nearly all" of our funds because they show transactions in 2020 for us and their 2020 audit will likely also take a while. |
| 14:24 |
JBoyer |
Short of some snark though I feel like we're finally over the hump with regard to SFC separation. |
| 14:24 |
tlittle1 |
Huzzah! |
| 14:24 |
JBoyer |
I believe a finish line is in sight here. |
| 14:24 |
gmcharlt |
I will note that that interaction continues to demonstrate reasons for our leaving SFC |
| 14:24 |
terranm |
wooooo! |
| 14:24 |
tlittle1 |
Agreed, gmcharlt |
| 14:25 |
dluch |
That's great. I feel like they're still stringing us along, though |
| 14:25 |
jvwoolf |
gmcharlt, yup |
| 14:25 |
Cowens |
gmcharlt, I was going to say the same thing |
| 14:25 |
nfBurton |
agreed |
| 14:25 |
gmcharlt |
I do suggest that we consider discussing with Dilly next steps, and possibly route all communications through him |
| 14:26 |
JBoyer |
I was not given the impression that we would be missed, so I would say any feelings of stringing-along-ness might be caused by their extra-carefully crossing i's and t's because of lessons learned over the years, not necessarily from working with us. |
| 14:26 |
dluch |
Yes, I think Dilly should get on the phone and put them in their place, to be blunt |
| 14:27 |
gmcharlt |
i.e., late February or early March transfer is in the bounds of acceptability given projectons about how the discussion with the Loews will go down, but delays beyond that would not be |
| 14:27 |
gmcharlt |
and there's a good argument to be made that the status of their audit is not our problem |
| 14:27 |
dluch |
exactly |
| 14:27 |
JBoyer |
Fair points. |
| 14:27 |
jvwoolf |
I think Dilly wanted an update on our status with SFC anyway |
| 14:28 |
tlittle1 |
+1 to looping in Dilly |
| 14:28 |
tlittle1 |
I don't think it would hurt to see what he thinks |
| 14:29 |
JBoyer |
jvwoolf, I gave him the short version in that email (I thought I reply-all'd) and he seemed to be satisfied with that, but yes, if we want him to take the lead in communicating with the SFC then he'll definitely want a chat about that. |
| 14:29 |
tlittle1 |
JBoyer Ah, I had missed that he was on that thread |
| 14:29 |
dluch |
I really do think he should be the one. Lawyers talk to lawyers |
| 14:31 |
JBoyer |
Ok. I can reach out to him about taking on communications with the SFC. I assume it would be helpful to have a call with him to go over our desires, who wants to join me on that? |
| 14:31 |
tlittle1 |
I was just rereading his response and he invokes conferring with their legal counsel, so I don't think we're out of bounds to invoke ours |
| 14:31 |
gmcharlt |
indeed, and the trademark transfer is likely to involve technical legal issues even if there was no bad blood between us |
| 14:32 |
gmcharlt |
and I would like to be part of that call with Dilly |
| 14:32 |
dluch |
I volunteer as tribute. If you need me |
| 14:32 |
tlittle1 |
+1 |
| 14:32 |
gmcharlt |
and further suggest that all board officers be on it, at minimum, unless scheduling gets hairy |
| 14:32 |
tlittle1 |
Seems sensible to me |
| 14:33 |
dluch |
+1 makes sense |
| 14:33 |
jvwoolf |
I am on vacation the next two weeks, but could certainly take some time for this call. Not like I'm going anywhere. :) |
| 14:33 |
nfBurton |
niagara covid restriction+1 |
| 14:33 |
nfBurton |
+1 |
| 14:33 |
JBoyer |
Alright then. unless someone would like to volunteer to schedule this (hint, hint) I can put a doodle poll together. |
| 14:34 |
tlittle1 |
I can schedule it if you'd like, JBoyer |
| 14:34 |
JBoyer |
#action JBoyer will schedule a time for officers and dluch to chat with Dilly about SFC communications. |
| 14:35 |
tlittle1 |
Ha! Nope, action item makes it now yours :) |
| 14:35 |
JBoyer |
Boo. |
| 14:35 |
JBoyer |
tlittle1++ thanks anyway :) |
| 14:35 |
jvwoolf |
LOL |
| 14:35 |
dluch |
:-D |
| 14:36 |
gmcharlt |
pinesol++ # ruler of us all |
| 14:36 |
pinesol |
gmcharlt: Zoia knows how to make fusilli. |
| 14:36 |
JBoyer |
I assume that's all of the SFC discussion for now, so let's ask dluch about: |
| 14:36 |
JBoyer |
#topic 2021 Conference Cancelation |
| 14:36 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now 2021 Conference Cancelation (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 14:36 |
JBoyer |
dluch++ thank you for the updates earlier today. |
| 14:37 |
dluch |
Well, I pretty much put all I know to date in the email I sent earlier. We've gotten an invoice now. I'm ignoring it for the time being. Dale has several suggestions, and will do whatever TEP wants |
| 14:37 |
dluch |
You're welcome :-) |
| 14:38 |
dluch |
But it will be easier to discuss "in person" |
| 14:38 |
JBoyer |
With the discussion / desire for a non-text venue, do we want to table this for now and have a special meeting over video or aim for a very video January? |
| 14:39 |
tlittle1 |
Is it reasonable to wait until January to make the decision, or do we need to do that more imminently? |
| 14:39 |
tlittle1 |
I'm not sure of a reasonable timeline |
| 14:39 |
dluch |
I think we can wait, based on recommendation |
| 14:39 |
tlittle1 |
Reasonable reasonable reasonable |
| 14:39 |
gmcharlt |
I think we're in an adequate holding pattern for the moment |
| 14:39 |
nfBurton |
The invoice had a 'Due Date' of the end of the month. If that matters at this point |
| 14:40 |
gmcharlt |
also, regarding one of the specific points: the fact that they've presented an invoices with a stated cancellation fee arguably obviates them trying to claim more |
| 14:40 |
JBoyer |
I am very curious to see what MO does after the current meeting restrictions expire in January. The numbers are literally ridiculous all over. |
| 14:40 |
dluch |
Yes, I'm interested to hear what Dale has to say about that, now that we have it and Donna passed it on |
| 14:41 |
tlittle1 |
nfBurton I think that's a fair point. If we go past the due date, are we just implicitly saying we're going to go forward with arbitration? |
| 14:41 |
dluch |
JBoyer: And, apparently, KC has been very consistent in its restrictions, continuing them as things stay bad |
| 14:41 |
dluch |
MO won't do anything as a state, I can tell you that with 99.9999% certainty |
| 14:41 |
tlittle1 |
:( |
| 14:41 |
nfBurton |
Even with a vaccine I dont see things clearing up by April. They seem to be getting worse |
| 14:42 |
dluch |
Exactly |
| 14:42 |
gmcharlt |
yeah, general availability would be the big milestone, and the US isn't there yet |
| 14:42 |
dluch |
I would find it really hard to believe this will be over by then |
| 14:42 |
abneiman |
sorry! I was in the middle of something else - but nothing to add to what dluch, gmcharlt, and rhamby said earlier re EG2021 (and thank you to the three of them for that dluch++ gmcharlt++ rhamby++ ) - I will plan to attend the January TEP Board meeting. |
| 14:42 |
* abneiman |
vanished back into the ether |
| 14:43 |
Cowens |
Do we need a vote to not pay the invoice? |
| 14:43 |
dluch |
Maybe we wait to see if the lawyer has any thoughts about that part before we do that? |
| 14:44 |
dluch |
(too many thats, sorry) |
| 14:44 |
tlittle1 |
Our next meeting isn't actually until Jan 21, which is a bit late for my taste. I'm fine with postponing the decision until after the holidays, but not *much* after. If we're going to ignore the due date, I'd like to make a decision about happens after that soon...after that. |
| 14:44 |
nfBurton |
Yeah, the result of that decision doesn't seem too clear |
| 14:44 |
dluch |
tlittle: agreed |
| 14:45 |
dluch |
Though I'm also okay with a meeting before holidays |
| 14:45 |
JBoyer |
We can potentially move the January meeting up a bit if someone else ( tlittle1 ? ;p ) would like to coordinate that. |
| 14:46 |
tlittle1 |
I will :) |
| 14:46 |
JBoyer |
tlittle1++ |
| 14:46 |
nfBurton |
Seems like that'll revolve around Dilly's availability too? |
| 14:46 |
gmcharlt |
not paying the invoice is what gives us leverage to get the amount reduced or waived; at minimum we should wait to make any decision until discussions happen with Dale |
| 14:46 |
gmcharlt |
also, this is a matter that Dilly should get a heads-up on |
| 14:46 |
Cowens |
So those comments from Dale were pre-invoice? |
| 14:46 |
JBoyer |
As for the invoice, as it is to MOBIUS and the recommendation they've been given is to ignore it for now, I'm fine letting them do that. |
| 14:46 |
gmcharlt |
given the principal-agent relationship between TEP and MOBIUS here |
| 14:46 |
nfBurton |
We also don't seem to have the full amount available yet |
| 14:47 |
dluch |
Cowens: yes |
| 14:47 |
gmcharlt |
yeah, any action to pay by end of year would require somebody extending some credit |
| 14:47 |
tlittle1 |
Ah yes, that's true |
| 14:48 |
nfBurton |
So even if we wanted to it'd be a hard pressed option |
| 14:48 |
dluch |
Yup. |
| 14:49 |
JBoyer |
So, to sum up so I know I'm following: |
| 14:49 |
tlittle1 |
I will still maintain I'd rather meet earlier in January since we have options on the table and the only thing we're waiting on is a decision from us on direction |
| 14:49 |
tlittle1 |
Even if we meet early in Jan, come up with some discussion items to get feedback on, and then meet again at our reg Jan date. This is a huge issue, and I'm fine with meeting more frequently to get it resolved some which way |
| 14:50 |
JBoyer |
#action tlittle1 will find a time we can all meet earlier in January and discuss our next steps re: the 2021 venue cancelation negotiations |
| 14:50 |
nfBurton |
Agreed. I'd like to know what happens when we don't pay it. If they still try to collect or it moves to arbitration or we get charged late fees, etc? |
| 14:50 |
dluch |
And from what I understand from Donna's previous phone conversation with Dale, this sort of not paying by some sort of deadline happens all the time and isn't a big deal to big companies. I don't have that in writing, though, just passed through |
| 14:50 |
dluch |
But it will be better to have something solid to go off of |
| 14:51 |
nfBurton |
Does the force majeure clause still go into affect even though we already cancelled? |
| 14:51 |
dluch |
Apparently it can. Especially if restrictions are still in place in April. |
| 14:52 |
tlittle1 |
dluch Do you think Dale would be amenable to being on the earlier Jan call so we can ask him stuff directly? Is that an okay thing for us to do, since he's actually MOBIUS's counsel? |
| 14:52 |
dluch |
I'll find out |
| 14:52 |
nfBurton |
Fantastic. I wasn't sure if our cancellation would be considered the end of the contract |
| 14:53 |
dluch |
nfBurton: Yes, I wasn't sure about that either. But that's why he recommends waiting to pay. |
| 14:53 |
tlittle1 |
I wondered the same, nfBurton |
| 14:53 |
JBoyer |
Payment certainly would be, but also the end of any negotiations about it. I believe a part of the contract said something to the effect of the contract not being canceled until payment was recived. |
| 14:53 |
gmcharlt |
I do think that a heads-up to Dilly should happen first before any meeting invovling Dale |
| 14:53 |
tlittle1 |
I think that's fair |
| 14:53 |
dluch |
gmcharlt: agreed, since he is TEP counsel |
| 14:54 |
nfBurton |
JBoyer++ I do recall that |
| 14:54 |
tlittle1 |
And if it's inappropriate to include Dale directly, that's okay too. Just trying to limit playing Telephone |
| 14:55 |
dluch |
JBoyer: yep, that was part of Dale's email. He doesn't think an arbiter would side with Loews if they pressed that part, but they could |
| 14:56 |
dluch |
So, I guess at this point |
| 14:56 |
dluch |
oops |
| 14:57 |
dluch |
it seems like we should see what Dale has to say about that Dec. 30 cancellation date thing and, if absolutely necessary, meet before then to decide, but otherwise wait until January |
| 14:58 |
dluch |
? |
| 14:58 |
tlittle1 |
I agree with that |
| 14:58 |
nfBurton |
Seems like Loews will have to wait either way, barring us conceding |
| 14:59 |
gmcharlt |
which would not remotely be the first time they've been in that situation |
| 14:59 |
dluch |
Yep. And seeing as how they waited two and a half months to even get us an invoice, I'm not terribly inclined to rush around for them |
| 14:59 |
JBoyer |
I expect that we can also fill in Dilly (TEP counsel) about the situation with MOBIUS and the Loews when having our SFC-related call, and pass along the advice given by Dale (MOBIUS counsel) to make certain we're not potentially causing any issue for ourselves. |
| 14:59 |
dluch |
makes sense |
| 14:59 |
tlittle1 |
Agree |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
Since we've been throwing around a lot of folk's names without them being here I thought that might help everyone keep things straight. :) |
| 15:00 |
jvwoolf |
Sounds good to me |
| 15:00 |
tlittle1 |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:00 |
jvwoolf |
Will that be part of the call we have with him to discuss SFC? |
| 15:00 |
tlittle1 |
So on the slate we've got the call with Dilly re: SFC transfer, where we'll also fill him in on the conf cancellation and Dale's recommendations. Then we're also proposing an early Jan meeting to discuss the conference cancellation. Correct? |
| 15:00 |
jvwoolf |
With Dilly, that is? |
| 15:01 |
tlittle1 |
I think we have action items for both of those, just mentally summing up the discussion |
| 15:01 |
JBoyer |
jvwoolf, that was my thinking, yes. Just to pass along a heads up about the other situation. Not that we'd necessarily need him to be involved |
| 15:01 |
dluch |
tlittle1: Yes, that's what I'm understanding |
| 15:02 |
tlittle1 |
I just threw it out there to include Dale in January, but do other TEP want that? |
| 15:02 |
tlittle1 |
*TEP members |
| 15:02 |
JBoyer |
jvwoolf, did you have concerns about that or just making sure you were following everything since there are threads going hither and yon at the moment? |
| 15:02 |
gmcharlt |
tlittle1: that's pending discussion with Dilly,IMO |
| 15:02 |
tlittle1 |
Ok cool |
| 15:02 |
jvwoolf |
JBoyer: Just making sure I understood :) |
| 15:02 |
JBoyer |
jvwoolf++ |
| 15:04 |
JBoyer |
Ok, so as tlittle1 mentioned, there are action items in place to schedule the call with Dilly and to find an earlier meeting date in January (potentially additional, so don't erase your Jan 21 calendar entry just yet) |
| 15:04 |
JBoyer |
Does that mean we're all good for now on this point? I don't want to spend the rest of the day on it but don't want anyone to be uncomfortable with where things stand. |
| 15:04 |
dluch |
I'm good |
| 15:04 |
tlittle1 |
I'm good at this point |
| 15:04 |
jvwoolf |
+1 |
| 15:05 |
jlundgren |
I'm good with the plan as well |
| 15:05 |
nfBurton |
+1 |
| 15:05 |
JBoyer |
Because I can't really run any meeting *entirely* seriously: |
| 15:05 |
JBoyer |
#agreed all of that. |
| 15:05 |
tlittle1 |
:D |
| 15:05 |
dluch |
:-D |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
So, one more quick block of text that I want people to think about going into the new year: |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
#topic New Business |
| 15:06 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now New Business (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
#topic Strategic Planning |
| 15:06 |
|
Topic for #evergreen is now Strategic Planning (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-12-17, agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-12-17) |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
We've discussed the need for a strategic plan to guide the actions of the board. I feel that the aim of the board should be more than "pay for the conference" and "guide the project" (whatever that means) and I think there's some support for exploring that. |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
That said, it's the end of the year and everyone is and will be very busy for a short while, so this is little more than a statement of intent at the moment. |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
We would like to put together a subcommittee / task force in January to get in touch with the community and explore ways that the board can make an impact and really help guide the project, do more fundraising to do things like participate in the ECDI or a similar project, get our name out there, etc. |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
If you have any interest in this or know someone that would be interested, watch this space, percolate some ideas, and show up to our next meeting on January 21st so we can try to put a group together and get started.' |
| 15:07 |
JBoyer |
end of big blob of words. I'm happy for there to be some discussion around that if people are interested, but I know we're already over the hour. |
| 15:07 |
dluch |
Yay! |
| 15:07 |
tlittle1 |
Nice. JBoyer++ |
| 15:07 |
jlundgren |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:08 |
nfBurton |
That feels like something I could help with. Being in Canada I've been muddled with the legal proceedings in US terms |
| 15:08 |
dluch |
(That yay was for strategic planning, not end of blob words) |
| 15:08 |
nfBurton |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:08 |
JBoyer |
dluch, get you an exclamation that can do both. |
| 15:08 |
tlittle1 |
lol |
| 15:08 |
dluch |
Lol! |
| 15:09 |
gmcharlt |
dluch: in utterly useless trivia, back in the deep mists of time, Koha's mascot was briefly a "blobby man" |
| 15:09 |
dluch |
LOLOL |
| 15:09 |
tlittle1 |
LOL |
| 15:09 |
dluch |
nfBurton++ |
| 15:10 |
* dluch |
raises hand to volunteer, too |
| 15:10 |
tlittle1 |
Me too |
| 15:10 |
dluch |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
<MrBurns>Excellent</MrBurns> |
| 15:10 |
jvwoolf |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:10 |
dluch |
HA |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
nfBurton++ |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
dluch++ |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
tlittle1++ |
| 15:10 |
tlittle1 |
I do have one question about our normal January meeting. So are we planning on meeting via video? If so, I can organize that, just want to confirm |
| 15:11 |
tlittle1 |
Or shall we have further discussion about that via the listserv? |
| 15:11 |
tlittle1 |
Jason raised a couple of points about doing that on an ongoing basis |
| 15:12 |
gmcharlt |
I personally have no objection to planning on a video meeting, provided we can arrange for transparency in terms of (a) ensuring that interested coomunity members can attend and (b) there being a provision for a videorecording |
| 15:12 |
JBoyer |
I don't know if we need to do that all of the time, but for these kinds of "high-bandwidth" discussions I feel like it's easier to do over video, even if it's more work for the secretary. |
| 15:13 |
gmcharlt |
(although there are pros and cons regarding recordings in the non-profit space) |
| 15:13 |
dluch |
Also, video may provide an option for community members who aren't comfy in IRC to attend |
| 15:13 |
tlittle1 |
gmcharlt I've also read some discussion on that too. Maybe I can investigate that a little more and report back? |
| 15:14 |
tlittle1 |
JBoyer It's no problem for me re: more work, that's what I signed up for :) |
| 15:14 |
JBoyer |
HAVE I GOT A DEAL FOR YOU. |
| 15:14 |
dluch |
lol |
| 15:14 |
JBoyer |
;_ |
| 15:14 |
JBoyer |
;) |
| 15:14 |
jvwoolf |
dluch: Good point. Might also attact more potential board members in the future. |
| 15:14 |
tlittle1 |
I genuinely LOLed |
| 15:15 |
tlittle1 |
jvwoolf agreed |
| 15:15 |
dluch |
tlittle1: me too, lol |
| 15:15 |
dluch |
jvwoolf: Yes! |
| 15:15 |
tlittle1 |
Ok so, didn't mean to open a can of worms here after the hour. Sorry! How about we plan on meeting via video for our Jan meetings, and maybe at our regular Jan meeting can make a decision on whether it should continue |
| 15:15 |
tlittle1 |
Does that sound okay? |
| 15:16 |
JBoyer |
But yes, if there are concerns you'd like to research let's wait on that, though I will say if it looks good we should have the "early January" meeting held over video because that will be more focused on the issue that is easier to deal with over voice. |
| 15:16 |
dluch |
tlittle1: +1 |
| 15:16 |
gmcharlt |
agreed; given that we've done video meetings in the past, doing another one-shot again doesn't commit us to any permanent decision, particularly about recordings |
| 15:16 |
jlundgren |
we don't record our video board meetings but do provide minutes due to privacy concerns... |
| 15:17 |
dluch |
jlundgren: good point. Same at MOBIUS |
| 15:17 |
JBoyer |
I have seen things done that way. Recordings primarily used for note-taking and then discarded, etc. |
| 15:18 |
dluch |
Yep |
| 15:18 |
tlittle1 |
JBoyer That's what I was thinking as well |
| 15:18 |
jlundgren |
our state organizations are the same. all are welcome but not recorded. NELA discards after minutes are created. |
| 15:18 |
JBoyer |
Sounds like a plan for dealing with potential video meetings then. |
| 15:19 |
JBoyer |
If there are no more questions I'll drop some infos for the minutes and release you all to your days |
| 15:20 |
jlundgren |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:20 |
dluch |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:20 |
Cowens |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:20 |
tlittle1 |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:20 |
nfBurton |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:20 |
jvwoolf |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:20 |
JBoyer |
#info tlittle1 will reach out with the schedule for an early January meeting to discuss the conference situation |
| 15:20 |
JBoyer |
#info Next Regularly Scheduled Meeting 2021-01-21 |
| 15:20 |
JBoyer |
#endmeeting |
| 15:20 |
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pinesol |
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pinesol |
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pinesol |
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| 15:20 |
pinesol |
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| 15:20 |
JBoyer |
Thank you everyone |
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| 15:21 |
dluch |
Incidentally, Cowens, are you getting any emails from me on the board list? I always get rejection messages from your server. |
| 15:21 |
gmcharlt |
JBoyer++ |
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dluch |
Okay, well, off to have lunch now. And find out why my cat is yelling at me. |
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Well, you did say it was lunch time, so... |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
