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IRC log for #evergreen, 2020-10-09

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06:00 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:41 gmcharlt Bmagic++
09:44 Dyrcona lvm-- # At least on Ubuntu 20 and recent Ubuntu 18 installation images. "Use whole disk," apparently doesn't mean use the whole disk.
09:44 Bmagic :)
09:58 Dyrcona Does anyone in here know if the Free PE / Size includes the unused space if I can just resize the FS or do I have to do lv extend, too?
09:59 Dyrcona Maybe I should blame Ubuntu/Canonical? :)
10:00 berick Dyrcona: i ran into this recently...
10:00 berick what I ended up doing: sudo lvresize -r -l +100%FREE /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv
10:02 Dyrcona berick++
10:02 Dyrcona That seems to be working.
10:03 Dyrcona I was going to look it up. There was a period of a month about 4 years ago, where all of this was fresh in my head, from messing with servers and moving groups around.
10:03 rfrasur @eightball
10:03 pinesol rfrasur: The answer is certainly yes.
10:04 * rfrasur picks a question.
10:04 berick yeah, that took a bit of digging.  rarely have to use it
10:04 rfrasur @coffee
10:04 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Espresso Nuevo, and sends it sliding down the bar to rfrasur
10:04 berick pinesol is in a good mood today
10:04 pinesol berick: did you finish your beer?
10:04 Dyrcona :)
10:04 rfrasur Oooh, pinesol IS in a good mood.
10:04 Dyrcona @tea
10:04 * pinesol brews and pours a pot of Holy Basil Purple Leaf, and sends it sliding down the bar to Dyrcona (http://ratetea.com/tea/upton/holy​-basil-purple-leaf-organic/1937/)
10:04 rfrasur Nice.
10:05 Dyrcona Ha! "Holy Basil Purple Leaf" sound like a) something I would drink and b) a good stage name for a semi-serious musician.
10:06 rfrasur Right?  It sounds amazing.
10:06 Dyrcona Except, no. I don't usually drink caffeine free tea.
10:06 rfrasur Well, the tea.  The semi-serious musician...pass.
10:06 Dyrcona :)
10:06 rfrasur Also....serious musicians...pass.
10:07 Dyrcona more karma for berick++ . That command worked exactly.
10:07 rfrasur Hmm, caffeine free.  Maybe you could cut it with a good black tea.
10:09 Dyrcona I was gonna share a link to what I typically drink, but it looks like Rate Tea needs to hire a programmer: Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'PDOException' with message 'SQLSTATE[42000]: Syntax error or access violation: 1064
10:09 berick ah my favorite kind of tea
10:09 rfrasur berick++
10:10 Dyrcona https://www.newmansown.com/b​everages/organic-black-tea/
10:10 rfrasur In reading about that tea and then falling into more of a mole hill than a rabbit hole, I ran across the best word today.  Adaptogenic.
10:11 Dyrcona rfrasur++
10:11 rfrasur Dyrcona++ # that's a respectable day to day.
10:14 rfrasur If I'm drinking tea (which is more of a winter/spring thing for me), it's Twinings Lady Grey or Constant Comment (cuz I'm apparently a middle aged woman from the 60s).  Or Tazo Wild Sweet Orange Herbal (all the capitals and adjectives)
10:19 Dyrcona :)
10:20 Dyrcona I think we have a box of Constant Comment hanging around, or maybe it got tossed in the last cupboard clean out?
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10:24 Dyrcona And, the machine thinks it's in EST. We haven't set the clocks back, yet....
10:26 Dyrcona Easy peasy... :)
10:49 rhamby I'll re-assert my pointless rant for a single global time zone.
10:49 rfrasur Hmm, that's intriguing.
10:50 rfrasur And I like it. Does that mean we could have moonlight vigils at noon and 4 p.m and 6 a.m.?
10:50 rfrasur On the same day?
10:50 rhamby The tracking of time is entirely artificial.  People live in varying degrees of light based on the "hour" all the time anyway.  It would just become to be the new normal.
10:50 rhamby yep, one day
10:50 berick i for one look forward to waking up around noon
10:50 rfrasur I'm so down with that, you have NO idea.
10:51 rfrasur Well, you have some idea because you're the one positing it.
10:51 rfrasur but...eh.  I also would like to sleep until noon.
10:53 Dyrcona But, when is noon?
10:53 rfrasur Whenever rhamby decides.
10:54 Dyrcona rhamby++
10:54 rhamby 24 hour day noon is the 12th hour
10:54 rfrasur Unless someone wants to challenge him for the role.  Which I think would then allow for rhamby to define the terms of the challenge.
10:55 rhamby hmmmm with this crowd that's dangerous, normally I'd go tolkien trivia but there is at least one person here I know for sure would be a fair opponent and I don't like fair duels
10:56 Dyrcona :)
11:01 rfrasur Hmm, I think there needs to be some evener.  So, because this is hypothetical and faux academic, I'm going to dictate (through no authority either inherent or delegated to myself) that while challenges may be physical, they may not be such that physical harm could be inflicted on either of the participants.  The type of challenge may be included as part of the state request for challenge.  The nature of that challenge may then be dictated, in so much
11:01 rfrasur as it aligns with the type of challenge requested, by the challenged.
11:02 rfrasur ie. challenge requester determines type of challenge. challenged determines nature of challenge within parameters of type.
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12:54 jeff fun exercise: identify circulations that were likely checked in as a result of the item being checked out again.
12:56 terranm Just what you want to do on a Friday afternoon
13:25 rfrasur ew
14:20 jeffdavis Only the one response to my Syrup inquiry so far, so the list of known Syrup users currently is NOBLE + Calvin College.
15:13 Dyrcona Hmm... Setting up a new SIP server and SIPServer won't start, because of the PERL library path. However, it works on my existing VMs, and I can't figure out what I did to make it work. There's no obvious setting of PERL5LIB in the environment.
15:19 Dyrcona Right. So, I still haven't figured it out.
15:24 Dyrcona I'm not setting PERL5LIB, nor is there a push to @INC....
15:32 Dyrcona All right. I'll just make a hack to oils_ctl.sh. That should work.
15:36 Dyrcona Wish I could figure out why this seems to work on my existing SIP servers...
15:37 jeff been running for a while and someone manually specified PERL5LIB before manually starting SIPServer?
15:37 jeff (not that I've *ever* seen that before...)
15:38 * jeff whistles nonchalantly
15:38 Dyrcona Well, there's supposedly a restart at 5:02 AM every day.
15:39 Dyrcona I've hacked oils_ctl.sh to include a line: export PERL5LIB="${SIP_DIR}"
15:40 Dyrcona That works on the new VM, though I suppose I could add PERL5LIB to the crontab.
15:41 Dyrcona Oh, I inverted the time: 2:05 am, and the longest running SIPServer has been running since then.
15:45 Dyrcona I haven't linked it under any of the standard @INC directories, either.....
15:46 Dyrcona The only thing that I can think of is that "." is in @INC, and oils_ctl.sh does a cd to $SIP_DIR, but if that were it, then it should work from the command line normally, no?
15:49 Dyrcona Ah ha!
15:49 jonadab Ok, now you *have* to tell us.
15:50 jonadab You can't just say "Ah ha!" like that and then clam up.
15:50 Dyrcona Difference in Perl versions: 5.22 includes "." in @INC and 5.26 apparently doesn't.
15:50 jonadab Ah.  Now that is worth knowing about.
15:51 jonadab I remember a few versions back, stuff like "require 'blah.pl'" had to be changed to "require './blah.pl'"
15:52 Dyrcona So, we may need this hack or something like that, or move where we expect SIPServer to be in the future.
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15:53 Dyrcona I have noted previously that I had to specify PERL5LIB when starting SIPServer on certain VMs, but this is the first time that I've really looked into it.
15:54 Dyrcona This is the first time for production. :)
16:06 Dyrcona Well, SIPServer works, after all of that. ssh tunnel for the win! :)
16:08 Dyrcona And, it's logging to our syslog server. :)
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16:57 Dyrcona Well, that's enough for now.
18:00 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
18:41 gmcharlt noting as a heads-up that I've turned on G Suite / Gmail for the evergreen-ils.org. I've set things up so that email to existing aliases like info@ and gitadmin@ will continue to go through lupin and work as expected, but if you see any cases where it looks like email is being dropped on the floor, let me know

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