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sandbergja |
JBoyer: re your question about the upgrade script for course reserves. That sounds really familiar; I will check on that. Thanks for taking a look! |
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sandbergja |
Heads up to anybody rebasing Angular ports: if "ng build" (without prod) gives you a message about Typescript compiling something that is not part of Angular, or run into the browser console error "Cannot find module", it's because you need the new loadChildren syntax |
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sandbergja |
(berick's email about Angular 9/10 has a good example of how to fix it) |
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Bmagic |
I saw Dyrcona talking about PG 10 - We are thinking about upgrading Postgres for Evergreen. Anyone using 10+ in production yet? |
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Dyrcona |
Bmagic: Not yet, but I'm using Pg 12 on a development server and I upgraded our training server to Pg 12 yesterday. |
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Dyrcona |
In my limited testing on a development server, you have to go to at least Pg 11 to get a noticeable performance boost over Pg 9.6. |
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Bmagic |
ha! |
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Bmagic |
hmmm, I'd be a little gun shy to install PG 10+ on a production environment. I figure someone would have production on 10 soon :) |
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Dyrcona |
I intend to go to Pg 12 in production before our next big Evergreen upgrade. |
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Bmagic |
Dyrcona++ # Trail Blazing! |
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Bmagic |
but seriously PG 9 is getting pretty old now days |
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Dyrcona |
Final releases of 9.5 and 9.6 are scheduled for next year: https://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning/ |
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Dyrcona |
Ubuntu 16.04 is also just about up, and we should get Evergreen working on 20.04. |
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* JBoyer |
makes loud sounds to the effect that a Dev Meeting will take place in 60 minutes |
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* berick |
raises ear horn |
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csharp |
the Horn of Gondor! |
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JBoyer |
The Ear Horn of Gondor would make a good oldies-fantasy-rock band name. |
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* JBoyer |
dons a bald-cap, climbs a chair, and shouts "DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS!" |
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JBoyer |
#startmeeting 2020-09-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-09-01 |
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pinesol |
Meeting started Tue Sep 1 15:02:14 2020 US/Eastern. The chair is JBoyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:02 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #evergreen is now (Meeting topic: 2020-09-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-09-01) |
| 15:02 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to '2020_09_01___developer_meeting__agenda_available_at_https___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_php_id_dev_meetings_2020_09_01' |
| 15:02 |
JBoyer |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Introductions (Meeting topic: 2020-09-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-09-01) |
| 15:02 |
JBoyer |
New meeting, who dis? |
| 15:02 |
JBoyer |
#info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, Equinox |
| 15:02 |
jeff |
#info jeff = Jeff Godin, Traverse Area District Library (TADL) |
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sandbergja |
#info sandbergja = Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College |
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gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, EOLI |
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mmorgan |
#info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE |
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abneiman |
abneiman = Andrea Neiman, Equinox |
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Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CW MARS |
| 15:03 |
abneiman |
#info abneiman = Andrea Neiman, Equinox |
| 15:03 |
berick |
#info berick Bill Erickson, KCLS |
| 15:04 |
JBoyer |
Others can chime in as they arrive, I don't want to keep anyone too long today. |
| 15:04 |
JBoyer |
#topic Action Items from Last Meeting |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Action Items from Last Meeting (Meeting topic: 2020-09-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-09-01) |
| 15:04 |
JBoyer |
First from last meeting was "berick and csharp to consider approaches to lp 1627373" |
| 15:04 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1627373 in Evergreen "Acq: We need to fully implement EDI availability codes" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627373 |
| 15:04 |
JBoyer |
berick, csharp, any word or ought it be pushed to next meeting? |
| 15:04 |
alynn26 |
#info alynn26 = Lynn Floyd, Evergreen Indiana |
| 15:05 |
berick |
JBoyer: pushed to next please. i'm still planning to participate, though |
| 15:05 |
JBoyer |
berick++ |
| 15:05 |
JBoyer |
#action berick and csharp to consider approaches to lp 1627373 |
| 15:05 |
sandbergja |
berick++ |
| 15:05 |
JBoyer |
next was "JBoyer to file LP bug about replacing Dojo with jQuery (lp 1890342)" |
| 15:05 |
sandbergja |
csharp++ |
| 15:05 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1890342 in Evergreen "The OPAC should replace Dojo with jQuery" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890342 |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
I did managed to step over this very low hurdle. No progress as of yet. |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
next item, "gmcharlt will cut OpenSRF 3.2.1" |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
gmcharlt, at this point, would aligning it with the September 16th releases be better? |
| 15:06 |
gmcharlt |
JBoyer: yeah. please toss in an #action for me |
| 15:07 |
JBoyer |
#action gmcharlt will cut OpenSRF 3.2.1 around Evergreen point release time |
| 15:07 |
JBoyer |
Next was "berick to open LP bug re: the removal of Hatch Local Storage in web staff client" |
| 15:07 |
terranm |
#info terranm = Terran McCanna, PINES |
| 15:07 |
berick |
pullrequest posted |
| 15:07 |
JBoyer |
And indeed, there is a new branch at the existing bug lp 1774008 |
| 15:07 |
berick |
to an already-opened ticket |
| 15:07 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1774008 in Evergreen "Remove data storage options from Hatch" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1774008 |
| 15:08 |
JBoyer |
I'll try to take a look, I imagine it won't cause much of a problem since it's just removing a couple targeted chunk. |
| 15:08 |
JBoyer |
The last 2 action items from last meeting: "sandbergja to do some testing on the Angular staff catalog branch with the aim of merging pre-feedback fest", and "gmcharlt , sandbergja , and berick will work to test and merge lp 1864371 to use Angular 10 in the staff client before Feedback Fest week" |
| 15:09 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1864371 in Evergreen "Upgrade to Angular 10" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864371 |
| 15:09 |
JBoyer |
Success, both were merged. A great feedback fest was had by all. |
| 15:09 |
berick |
woohoo |
| 15:09 |
JBoyer |
Anyone have any discussion re: previous action items before we move on? |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
ok, on we go |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
#topic OpenSRF Release Info |
| 15:10 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now OpenSRF Release Info (Meeting topic: 2020-09-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-09-01) |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
#info gmcharlt to cut 3.2.1 release soon |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
If there's nothing else to discuss re: OpenSRF we'll move on |
| 15:11 |
JBoyer |
#topic Evergreen Release Info |
| 15:11 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Evergreen Release Info (Meeting topic: 2020-09-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-09-01) |
| 15:11 |
JBoyer |
First a quick calendar dump: |
| 15:11 |
JBoyer |
#info Feature Slush: Tuesday, September 8 |
| 15:11 |
JBoyer |
#info Feature Freeze: Monday, September 14 |
| 15:11 |
JBoyer |
#info September Monthly Point Releases: Wednesday, September 16 |
| 15:11 |
JBoyer |
#info Bug Squashing Week: September 21 - September 25 |
| 15:12 |
JBoyer |
September 8 and 14 are especially important, as they're creeping ever closer. |
| 15:12 |
JBoyer |
Any discussion or news re: Evergreen releases? |
| 15:12 |
* csharp |
appears |
| 15:13 |
terranm |
There are a lot of new angular interfaces with pullrequests that haven't been tested yet if anyone has a vested interest in getting the into 3.6 |
| 15:13 |
terranm |
*them |
| 15:13 |
gmcharlt |
also, just a general call for review of pull requests, particularly those on the wishlists |
| 15:14 |
terranm |
Despite all the testing during FF, there are probably 140 or so open pullrequests |
| 15:14 |
gmcharlt |
s/wishlists/roadmap/ |
| 15:14 |
JBoyer |
I would also add that anything on terranm's feedback fest sheet that is still up likely still has any Ready for Testing patches in place if you want an easy test to signoff on. |
| 15:15 |
terranm |
sandbox sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11MjEa8V8d7NYxVM3s1Ra1IOdbhZPFExoWiWDOAKEXoE/edit#gid=0 |
| 15:15 |
JBoyer |
terranm++ |
| 15:15 |
JBoyer |
Any other Evergreen news? if not ... |
| 15:15 |
JBoyer |
#topic Hatch Release Info |
| 15:15 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Hatch Release Info (Meeting topic: 2020-09-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-09-01) |
| 15:16 |
JBoyer |
#info JBoyer will try to put berick's branch on lp 1774008 through it's paces |
| 15:16 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1774008 in Evergreen "Remove data storage options from Hatch" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1774008 |
| 15:16 |
JBoyer |
I don't know if there's a lot more to say re: Hatch, but will wait a few seconds just in case. |
| 15:17 |
berick |
nothing from me |
| 15:17 |
JBoyer |
#topic New Business |
| 15:17 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now New Business (Meeting topic: 2020-09-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-09-01) |
| 15:17 |
JBoyer |
#info a request from sandbergja for review of course reserves / course materials in lp 1849212 . |
| 15:17 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1849212 in Evergreen "Course Materials Module" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849212 - Assigned to Jane Sandberg (sandbej) |
| 15:17 |
JBoyer |
Did I mention feature-winter is coming? |
| 15:17 |
JBoyer |
sandbergja, would you like add anything? |
| 15:18 |
sandbergja |
Sure, I actually got some great feedback on that |
| 15:18 |
sandbergja |
and will be addressing it hopefully today |
| 15:18 |
sandbergja |
so there should be a fresh branch available for review today or tomorrow |
| 15:18 |
JBoyer |
That sounds great. |
| 15:18 |
JBoyer |
sandbergja++ |
| 15:19 |
JBoyer |
Any other new business that didn't make it to the agenda? |
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* Dyrcona |
has a question about new features. |
| 15:19 |
Dyrcona |
Is there a goal to get curbside into 3.6? |
| 15:19 |
JBoyer |
Ideally, everything on the roadmap, yes, but that one does seem especially timely. |
| 15:20 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: I would like to see it get in, particular as its in production use |
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* gmcharlt |
grants that it's possible that by 3.8 it could become moot |
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* abneiman |
knocks wood on gmcharlt's behalf |
| 15:21 |
Dyrcona |
OK. Thanks! We're planning to look at it soon, on 3.2 |
| 15:21 |
JBoyer |
I could see benefit for the feature in general even after its current need has passed. But the sooner that need passes the better. |
| 15:21 |
terranm |
+1 |
| 15:22 |
Dyrcona |
+1 |
| 15:22 |
JBoyer |
Any other new business or disucussion? |
| 15:22 |
jeff |
While the implementation of curbside doesn't meet our needs, I wouldn't discount it as being moot at some near point in the future. Several libraries I've spoken with are thinking that curbside may become a permanent continues service offering. |
| 15:23 |
terranm |
Yeah, we're not planning on implementing it anytime soon because our libraries already have their processes in place, but I can see implementing it as an option later. |
| 15:23 |
mmorgan |
One really nice feature of the curbside is the streamlined checkout of held items. |
| 15:25 |
JBoyer |
Sounds reasonable to me, and jeff, if there are minor changes that would help make it meet your needs I'd be happy to see new lps for them. |
| 15:25 |
JBoyer |
If there's no further discussion... |
| 15:26 |
JBoyer |
The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, October 6th, I assume there's no reason that need be changed/ |
| 15:26 |
JBoyer |
? |
| 15:26 |
gmcharlt |
I know of no reason to change the date |
| 15:26 |
JBoyer |
#info Next Meeting is Tuesday October 6th at 3pm Eastern |
| 15:27 |
JBoyer |
And with that, I follow up one of the longer meetings with one a much more reasonable length. |
| 15:27 |
JBoyer |
#endmeeting |
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pinesol |
Meeting ended Tue Sep 1 15:27:16 2020 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:27 |
pinesol |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-09-01-15.02.html |
| 15:27 |
pinesol |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-09-01-15.02.txt |
| 15:27 |
pinesol |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-09-01-15.02.log.html |
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jeff |
JBoyer++ |
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terranm |
JBoyer++ |
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abneiman |
JBoyer++ |
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sandbergja |
JBoyer++ |
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mmorgan |
JBoyer++ |
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berick |
JBoyer++ |
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gmcharlt |
JBoyer++ |
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Dyrcona |
JBoyer++ |
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csharp |
JBoyer++ |
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rfrasur |
I know it's outside of the meeting, and obvs after the fact, but I'm hopeful that curbside won't become moot. Not in terms of Covid (please make it moot in terms of that), but as a general service proviso. |
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* Dyrcona |
listens to Bob Dylan very carefully because these tracks have "skips" on the phone or tablet, but not on the laptop. |
| 16:08 |
* Dyrcona |
thinks the Android devices have issues with FLAC files. |
| 16:08 |
rfrasur |
because the laptop is "smart?" or because the phone/tablet isn't? |
| 16:08 |
rfrasur |
or none of the above |
| 16:09 |
Dyrcona |
I don't think it is a question of smarts, so much as the quality of the code. |
| 16:09 |
Dyrcona |
It could also be that FLAC requires too much processing power for the phone/tablet. |
| 16:10 |
Dyrcona |
I think I'll convert them to ogg/vorbis and see what happens. |
| 16:16 |
Dyrcona |
Oops! Tried to connect to the training server database, and I forgot to adjust the pg_hba.conf back to normal. |
| 16:16 |
Dyrcona |
Guess I'll do that after the anonymity script finishes. |
| 16:22 |
Dyrcona |
Yeahp, i should have waited. reload kicked out my running query process. |
| 16:30 |
Dyrcona |
At least, it can pick up where it left off. |
| 16:37 |
Dyrcona |
Well, not automatically. I had to edit the SQL to get to the point where it was. |
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pinesol |
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jeff |
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.4.16 |
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jeff |
5.4 was first released in 2012, support ended in 2015. |
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yeats |
jeff: lupin? |
| 20:35 |
jeff |
I'm guessing that RHEL supports it a bit longer. |
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yeats |
oh |
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jeff |
no, usg.edu :-:-) |
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csharp |
ah - that's better |
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csharp |
oh - heh - doesn't surprise me :-) |
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csharp |
and yes, they are mostly a RHEL shop |
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