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06:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:21 berick would appreciate an eye on these 3.5 release notes updates:
10:21 berick https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=worki​ng/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/hea​ds/user/berick/3.5-release-notes-adds
10:23 berick just want to confirm the process is just 1. copy to main file 2. delete original specific file.
10:25 gmcharlt_ yeah, that's the process I follow
10:29 berick thanks gmcharlt_
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10:43 miker berick: just a head's up, I'm pushing up a branch that I think we should get into 3.5 to save the sanity of admins re angular: we really mustn't let browers cache angular's index.html, lets updates not show up to clients
10:43 miker I'm working on release notes for that right now, as it happens :)
10:48 berick miker: agreed, sounds good
10:57 miker berick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1883267 ... and I suppose it should be backported as far as angular is in regular use. 3.4 at least, I guess
10:57 pinesol Launchpad bug 1883267 in Evergreen "Angular index.html needs to never be cached" [High,New]
10:58 miker (I put the release note in Architecture for lack of a better idea on location...)
10:58 miker obv, move as you (or whoever) sees fit
11:01 berick miker: thanks, looking now
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11:37 pinesol [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1883267: Never cache Angular index.html - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=298c581>
11:37 pinesol [evergreen|Mike Rylander] LP#1883267: Adding release notes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=da0e2e3>
11:37 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1883267 Minor release note tweaks - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2bf71af>
11:45 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] 3.5 Post-Beta Release Notes Additions - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=35fca97>
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12:16 nfBurton Is there a script I can run to update blocks on patron accounts? We want to raise the fine limit and retroactively remove blocks
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12:18 berick nfBurton: there's an API call you can use open-ils.actor.user.penalties.update -- but i'm not aware of any scripts that automate calling it
12:18 berick it updates 1 patron per call
12:21 nfBurton If I remove the entries in actor.usr_standing_penalty, will that remove the block
12:21 * mmorgan was just about to suggest that.
12:21 mmorgan That will remove the block.
12:22 nfBurton Ok awesome.
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13:51 mantis Thanks to everyone who participated in presenting and planning for the conference!  It was mentioned that the community would like some volunteers for the Hack Away.  I'm not sure who to get in contact with to offer my time.
13:53 berick rhamby: ^--
13:53 mantis rhamby: I thought it would be you but wasn't entirely sure!
14:00 csharp mantis++
14:46 rhamby mantis: yep feel free to drop me an email rhamby at equinoxinitiative.org
14:47 rhamby berick++ for pinging me
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15:14 mmorgan If a hold that's ready for pickup, and has generated a pickup email gets retargeted and recaptured, will a second email be generated? My testing says yes, unless my testing is flawed.
15:18 jeff yes, I believe you are correct.
15:18 jeff though if the existing A/T events were pending they may BOTH be run.
15:19 jeff (say, if you had disabled notifications by disabling cron jobs for a time)
15:19 mmorgan Ok, good! That was the answer I wanted.
15:19 mmorgan I'm thinking of original events that completed months ago.
15:20 jeff reset / "Find Another Target" on an hold won't touch any events that may exist, but the action of the hold going "on shelf / ready for pickup" will happily autocreate any relevant hold.available events.
15:21 jeff it can get confusing if you disabled notifications, some items were captured for holds and events were created, and then you reset the holds and re-captured them, now there are two events... though grouping may mean that the duplicates go away, i haven't checked.
15:24 mmorgan jeff++
15:24 mmorgan Thanks!
15:25 Dyrcona jeff: Events won't be created if the event definitions were disabled. I know, we did this.
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15:25 jeff one of the things we did was threw on-shelf holds back into transit from the pickup lib to the pickup lib, then staff could scan items at their own pace to trigger notifications, since the new notifications are "please call to schedule a time to get these via curbside"
15:26 jeff Dyrcona: correct. if the defs are disabled, the events will not be created. i was talking about "disabling notifications" by disabling cron jobs.
15:26 jeff (where the events would be created but stay pending until cron jobs were re-enabled)
15:26 Dyrcona Ah, well, OK.
15:28 Dyrcona Good to clarify.
15:28 jeff Yes!
15:28 jeff :-)
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15:30 Dyrcona FWIW: We deactivated the event definitions in the database and left the cron jobs alone. Now, we're cloning hold notification events for individual libraries that request it.
15:33 mmorgan We did the same.
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15:42 jeff something i was just looking at was what happens when you have active event defs at multiple depths: if BR1 and SYS1 both define an event for hold.available, do both event defs each result in an event being created?
15:42 jeff my current thought on looking at things was "yes, you get two events", but I hadn't finished looking or tested yet.
15:43 csharp make your configure more colorful with "./configure --prefix=/openils --sysconfdir=/openils/conf | lolcat"
15:47 Dyrcona jeff: Yes, it looks like you get two events.
15:50 Dyrcona But, with something like hold notifications, you get multiple events (1 per hold) anyway, and only 1 email. I'm not sure how that works with different events, though. You'll probably have two emails or texts sent.
15:51 Dyrcona I should be more clear: multiple entries in the action_trigger.events table for the same event def for multiple holds, then with two different definitions at different depths, you'll get events for each definition if the owner org_units overlap.
15:51 Dyrcona The latter will probably lead to multiple emails and texts being sent.
15:53 Dyrcona Our plan is to deactivate all of the event definitions for the individual libraries when (if) we reactivate the event definition owned by the consortium.
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18:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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