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News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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Dyrcona |
Git can be "weird" https://pastebin.com/QvScPQ5P |
| 08:50 |
Dyrcona |
Of course, once I made additional changes to the branch, pushed it, and then pulled it on a remote server, git said it did different things with the pull. |
| 08:55 |
Dyrcona |
Also, I'm seeing ridiculously better performance with Pg 11 and Pg 12 than on Pg 9.6. Pg 10 is only marginally better than 9.6 on the same hardware and same data. |
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bshum |
Facebook memories.. 11 years ago, I was eating a good breakfast and about to start day two of the first Evergreen conference :D |
| 10:11 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 10:11 |
berick |
aww |
| 10:12 |
csharp |
bshum: nice! |
| 10:13 |
csharp |
so... Ubuntu 20.04 is necessitating removing legacy Python dependencies from OpenSRF, right? |
| 10:13 |
csharp |
I'm working on RHEL 8 and hitting a situation where a couple of the Python 2 packages are not available and I'd have to resort to PyPi or similar to install them |
| 10:14 |
Dyrcona |
That's what it looks like. I want to remove Python anyway. It's out of date with regular OpensRF, and AFAIK no one uses it. |
| 10:14 |
csharp |
I think it's fair to say that the Python interface to OpenSRF never caught on |
| 10:14 |
Dyrcona |
I tried it once or twice a few years ago. |
| 10:14 |
bshum |
Well, it sounded like dbwells had some thoughts about keeping it alive, but yeah I've been in favor of letting it die for now |
| 10:14 |
csharp |
didn't/doesn't Syrup use it? |
| 10:15 |
Dyrcona |
Reading dbwells comment, he's concerned about Syrup, and no, I don't think Syrup actually uses much (if any) of it. |
| 10:15 |
bshum |
20.04 definitely chokes on the existing packages and as testing goes, haven't built OpenSRF with python bindings at all forever |
| 10:16 |
Dyrcona |
It won't build on Ubuntu 16.04, either, but works on 18.04. |
| 10:16 |
Dyrcona |
Or, rather, it won't work on 16.04. |
| 10:17 |
Dyrcona |
Java's been dead for years.... bug 1827051 |
| 10:18 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1827051 in OpenSRF "Removal of OpenSRF and Evergreen Java Libraries" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827051 |
| 10:20 |
Dyrcona |
If someone wants me to do branches to remove Python, I can probably get to that tomorrow. |
| 10:20 |
bshum |
Should we kill off Java first, so that way we can have some clean branches to work off? |
| 10:21 |
Dyrcona |
Well, I was going to base the Python removal on the Java removal branches on the above bug. |
| 10:21 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: please - that sounds great |
| 10:22 |
csharp |
if someone gets the itch to implement Python3 later, more power to them :-) |
| 10:22 |
Dyrcona |
If someone wants to look at the Java bug in the meantime, that would be helpful. |
| 10:22 |
csharp |
if I get a moment today, I'll test both OpenSRF and EG |
| 10:22 |
Dyrcona |
csharp++ |
| 10:22 |
csharp |
lots of meetings today |
| 10:23 |
Dyrcona |
I think we should modernize our use of ejabberd before we try adding more language interfaces. |
| 10:23 |
* Dyrcona |
is taking the afternoon off for an optometrist appointment in anticipation of atropine. |
| 10:33 |
bshum |
Yeah, they keep making it harder to turn back on legacy auth mod for ejabberd. I fear it's only a matter of time till it's really truly dead :) |
| 10:34 |
bshum |
also, probably should do it right from the getgo |
| 10:35 |
Dyrcona |
Well, we're "abusing" ejabberd. The devs didn't really expect it to be used like this. |
| 10:35 |
Dyrcona |
At least, that's the impression that I get. |
| 10:36 |
Dyrcona |
S'pose we could ressurrect chop chop..... :) |
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berick |
whoa, forgot about chop chop |
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berick |
eoli++ # bug 1879983 |
| 12:10 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1879983 in Evergreen "Curbside Pickup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1879983 |
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agoben |
EOB/TEP Board meeting will start in about 10 minutes |
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jeffdavis |
Is bug 1703411 the bug for removing ejabberd legacy auth? |
| 13:52 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1703411 in OpenSRF "OpenSRF: XMPP Non-SASL auth is being phased out" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1703411 |
| 13:54 |
jeffdavis |
s/removing/moving away from/ |
| 13:56 |
JBoyer |
jeffdavis, yeah. |
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agoben |
Ok, here we go: |
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agoben |
#startmeeting EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21 |
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pinesol |
Meeting started Thu May 21 14:00:18 2020 US/Eastern. The chair is agoben. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #evergreen is now (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:00 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to 'eob_evergreen_project_board_meeting_for_2020_05_21__agenda_https___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_php_id_governance_minutes_2020_05_21' |
| 14:00 |
agoben |
#topic Roll Call |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Roll Call (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:00 |
agoben |
Use the #info command to provide name and affiliation |
| 14:00 |
agoben |
#info agoben = Anna Goben, Evergreen Indiana |
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gmcharlt_ |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, EOLI |
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dluch |
#info dluch is Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS |
| 14:00 |
tlittle |
#info tlittle = Tiffany Little, PINES |
| 14:00 |
rhamby |
#info rhamby = Rogan Hamby, EOLI |
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Cowens |
#info Cowens = Chris Owens, COOL/BPL |
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nfBurton |
#info Chris Burton, NFPL |
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JBoyer |
#info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, EOLI |
| 14:01 |
nfBurton |
#info nfBurton = Chris Burton, NFPL |
| 14:01 |
agoben |
Anyone heard anything from Jeanette or Jessica? |
| 14:02 |
tlittle |
I haven't. |
| 14:02 |
dluch |
Nope |
| 14:02 |
gmcharlt_ |
nor I |
| 14:02 |
agoben |
Alright, well, we do have a quorum, so, onward. |
| 14:02 |
agoben |
#topic Approval of Minutes |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Approval of Minutes (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:02 |
agoben |
#info Minutes from 2020-04-22 meeting: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:eob-minutes-2020-04-22 |
| 14:02 |
agoben |
Corrections, updates, suggestions? |
| 14:03 |
agoben |
I wrote them this time, so there's plenty of room for error.... |
| 14:03 |
gmcharlt_ |
no suggestions from me |
| 14:03 |
tlittle |
None from me either. |
| 14:03 |
JBoyer |
looks ok |
| 14:04 |
agoben |
Ok then. |
| 14:04 |
agoben |
#startvote Accept minutes from 2020-04-22? yes, no |
| 14:04 |
pinesol |
Begin voting on: Accept minutes from 2020-04-22? Valid vote options are yes, no. |
| 14:04 |
pinesol |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:04 |
agoben |
#vote yes |
| 14:04 |
nfBurton |
#vote yes |
| 14:04 |
tlittle |
#vote yes |
| 14:04 |
JBoyer |
#vote yes |
| 14:04 |
dluch |
#vote yes |
| 14:04 |
Cowens |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
gmcharlt_ |
#vote yes |
| 14:05 |
agoben |
#endvote |
| 14:05 |
pinesol |
Voted on "Accept minutes from 2020-04-22?" Results are |
| 14:05 |
pinesol |
yes (7): nfBurton, JBoyer, agoben, Cowens, tlittle, gmcharlt_, dluch |
| 14:05 |
agoben |
#topic Chair Report |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Chair Report (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:05 |
agoben |
#info Nothing to report here. Update on 1023 later. |
| 14:05 |
agoben |
#topic Treasurer's Financial Report |
| 14:05 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Treasurer's Financial Report (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:05 |
agoben |
gmcharlt? |
| 14:06 |
gmcharlt_ |
#info Still awaiting invoice from BOR for 2020 conference expenses; assuming it's not a high priority for them |
| 14:06 |
gmcharlt_ |
#info Setting up tlittle as a banking contact still pending, but will work on in June |
| 14:06 |
gmcharlt_ |
#info I've started attending meetings of the online conference committee as a liaison |
| 14:07 |
gmcharlt_ |
#info At this point, I'm confident that TEP will not come to any direct expense for the online conference |
| 14:07 |
gmcharlt_ |
nothing else to report |
| 14:07 |
agoben |
thank you! |
| 14:07 |
agoben |
#topic SFC Updates |
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Topic for #evergreen is now SFC Updates (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:07 |
agoben |
I have nothing to update here. Anyone else? |
| 14:08 |
gmcharlt_ |
none from me |
| 14:08 |
JBoyer |
No |
| 14:09 |
agoben |
#info No updates |
| 14:09 |
agoben |
#topic Release Managers |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Release Managers (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:09 |
agoben |
Any development news to share? |
| 14:10 |
csharp |
we should have the 3.3/3.4 updates released by the end of next week immediately followed by the RC for 3.5 |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt_ |
csharp++ |
| 14:10 |
agoben |
Excellent news! |
| 14:10 |
csharp |
there was a delay because of a critical bug |
| 14:10 |
csharp |
but we're very close |
| 14:10 |
agoben |
++ |
| 14:11 |
agoben |
Moving along then. |
| 14:11 |
agoben |
#topic Virtual Conference Committee |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Virtual Conference Committee (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:11 |
agoben |
gmcharlt, as the liaison, news to share? |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt_ |
sure, one second |
| 14:13 |
gmcharlt_ |
#info the committee has named the event the 2020 Evergreen International Online Conference |
| 14:13 |
gmcharlt_ |
#info Web page is https://evergreen-ils.org/conference/2020-evergreen-international-online-conference/ |
| 14:13 |
gmcharlt_ |
(nothing virtual about it ;) ) |
| 14:13 |
csharp |
@decide online or virtual |
| 14:13 |
pinesol |
csharp: go with online |
| 14:14 |
gmcharlt_ |
sponsors have volunteered to host the Zoom sessions and the captioning service |
| 14:14 |
gmcharlt_ |
and last-minute preparations are underway |
| 14:14 |
gmcharlt_ |
and I'm looking forward to it |
| 14:14 |
gmcharlt_ |
rhamby: abneiman: anything you want to add? |
| 14:15 |
rhamby |
I sent a few status earlier this morning to the list. Additionally when I last checked we were at 147 sign ups and climbing. |
| 14:15 |
rhamby |
board list specifically |
| 14:15 |
agoben |
Sounds good! |
| 14:15 |
abneiman |
thanks to the committee & presenters for rolling with it all! and thanks to original conf committee for helping us start on third base :) |
| 14:16 |
agoben |
Should be a good time for everyone. Thanks to everyone involved! |
| 14:16 |
agoben |
#topic 2021 Conference Committee |
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Topic for #evergreen is now 2021 Conference Committee (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:16 |
agoben |
dluch, any updates? |
| 14:17 |
dluch |
Not a whole lot... |
| 14:17 |
dluch |
turns out the hotel isn't opening until June 1 now (it was supposed to be April 2--terrible time!) |
| 14:18 |
dluch |
I did check on our contract, and there is a force majure clause just like this year's |
| 14:18 |
dluch |
I still need to contact the sales person we worked with to see what, if any, contingencies they have for next spring |
| 14:18 |
dluch |
(related to coronavirus cancelling) |
| 14:18 |
agoben |
Appreciate you working on that! |
| 14:19 |
dluch |
I'm going to start putting the planning committee together soon |
| 14:19 |
dluch |
:-) |
| 14:19 |
agoben |
++ |
| 14:19 |
dluch |
that's it |
| 14:19 |
agoben |
ok, thanks! |
| 14:19 |
gmcharlt_ |
I am a little concerned that force majeure clauses may be a little harder to exercise next year unless it remains absolutely clear as a matter of federal guidelines that large gatherings are not recommended |
| 14:19 |
agoben |
#topic Outreach Committee |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Outreach Committee (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:19 |
agoben |
#info The full report is available here: http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/board/2020-May/000135.html |
| 14:20 |
agoben |
There's the email rhamby sent out earlier. |
| 14:20 |
agoben |
Anything else, rhamby? |
| 14:20 |
rhamby |
Nope. I'll take questions but the only thing I was going to add I already did in the earlier section. :) |
| 14:21 |
agoben |
gmcharlt_, agreed. We'll need to keep a close eye on things. |
| 14:21 |
dluch |
gmcharlt_ yes |
| 14:22 |
agoben |
#topic Unfinished Business |
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| 14:22 |
agoben |
#info The Evergreen Project's 1023 was submitted on Thursday, April 23, 2020. It's current status is "Accepted" with the IRS. Have not received any updates/questions as yet. |
| 14:22 |
agoben |
With the way it went in, I believe Donna Bacon at MOBIUS and Dilly will be receiving the questions when they arrive. |
| 14:24 |
agoben |
Any comments? Questions? |
| 14:24 |
csharp |
agoben++ # yay! |
| 14:24 |
dluch |
I don't think Donna has gotten anything, but I'm checking. |
| 14:24 |
agoben |
Yes, huge relief to have it in. |
| 14:24 |
agoben |
They state when you submit it that they have up to 18 months to ask questions. |
| 14:24 |
agoben |
I'm hoping for a much faster turnaround. |
| 14:25 |
dluch |
Donna says no, she hasn't gotten anything yet |
| 14:25 |
agoben |
But 3.5 weeks is probably too much to hope for. |
| 14:25 |
agoben |
Thanks, dluch! |
| 14:25 |
agoben |
#topic New Business |
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| 14:26 |
agoben |
I don't have anything. Anyone else? |
| 14:26 |
gmcharlt_ |
as a data point, Equinox's 1023 got questionsa about 8 weeks after submission, which were answered and wrapped up 3-4 weeks after that |
| 14:26 |
gmcharlt_ |
so about 12 weeks in total |
| 14:27 |
JBoyer |
That would be great. |
| 14:27 |
tlittle |
Definitely better than 18 months! |
| 14:27 |
agoben |
Ooo, good to know. We'll hope things are still moving at that pace, even with the pandemic delaying personal taxes |
| 14:28 |
gmcharlt_ |
I have no actual new business, by th eway |
| 14:28 |
tlittle |
None here. |
| 14:28 |
agoben |
Ok, then... |
| 14:28 |
agoben |
#topic Next meeting |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-05-21, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-05-21) |
| 14:29 |
agoben |
#info Our next meeting will be on June 18, 2020. |
| 14:29 |
agoben |
Thanks everyone! |
| 14:29 |
agoben |
#endmeeting |
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pinesol |
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pinesol |
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pinesol |
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pinesol |
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gmcharlt_ |
agoben++ |
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agoben |
csharp++ |
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dluch |
agoben++ |
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tlittle |
agoben++ |
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agoben |
gmcharlt_++ |
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JBoyer |
agoben++ |
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agoben |
dluch++ |
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agoben |
abneiman++ |
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rhamby++ |
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nfBurton |
agoben++ |
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agoben |
JBoyer++ |
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agoben |
nfBurton++ |
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agoben |
Cowens++ |
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tlittle++ |
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csharp |
agoben++ |
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News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
