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Dyrcona |
git++ |
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Dyrcona |
BTW, if anyone needs it, Ubuntu Bionic (18.04) installation support backports cleanly to rel_3_2: https://pastebin.com/xZZCMkxQ |
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Dyrcona |
Hm... Not able to register a user with ejabberd on Ubuntu 18.04, and it's not the usual crash. I get a log of erlang spew. |
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Dyrcona |
Failed to create cookie file '/home/opensrf/.erlang.cookie': eacces |
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Dyrcona |
All right, for the logs I was doing sudo -u ejabberd ejabberdctl ... |
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Dyrcona |
This works: sudo ejabberdctl ... |
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csharp |
ok, seeing an error on this sub: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/perlmods/lib/OpenILS/Application/Cat/BibCommon.pm;h=c461dba2acb58610886868ff87d2dbbc04160bbc;hb=refs/heads/master#l385 |
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csharp |
(title_is_empty) |
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csharp |
gets called here with the $auth and bib ID: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=blob;f=Open-ILS/src/perlmods/lib/OpenILS/Application/Cat.pm#l1499 |
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csharp |
then complains at "return 0 unless $$cnlist[0] == $vol_id; # attached volume is not the context vol." because $vol_id is undefined |
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csharp |
wait - I guess that's just a warning |
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csharp |
ignore me - I'll come back to it if I need to |
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annagoben |
TEP/EOB meeting will start in about 30 minutes. |
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annagoben |
The EOB/TEP board meeting will start in a couple of minutes. |
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annagoben |
#startmeeting EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19 |
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pinesol |
Meeting started Thu Mar 19 14:00:30 2020 US/Eastern. The chair is annagoben. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:00 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #evergreen is now (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:00 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to 'eob_evergreen_project_board_meeting_for_2020_03_19__agenda_https___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_php_id_governance_minutes_2020_03_19' |
| 14:00 |
annagoben |
#topic Roll Call |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Roll Call (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:00 |
annagoben |
Use the #info command to provide name and affiliation |
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annagoben |
#info agoben = Anna Goben, Evergreen Indiana |
| 14:01 |
tlittle |
#info tlittle = Tiffany Little, PINES |
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nfBurton |
#info cburton = Chris Burton, Niagara Falls Public Library |
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rhamby |
#info rhamby = Rogan Hamby, Equinox |
| 14:01 |
annagoben |
#info annagoben = Anna Goben, Evergreen Indiana |
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JBoyer |
#info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, EOLI |
| 14:02 |
annagoben |
Waiting on a quorum... |
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* rfrasur |
is lurking for informational purposes only. |
| 14:02 |
gmcharlt |
#info gmcharlt = Galen Charlton, EOLI |
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terranm |
#info terranm = Terran McCanna, PINES |
| 14:02 |
rhamby |
rfrasur - you can still declare yourself attneding as a lurker :) |
| 14:03 |
rfrasur |
oh, okay |
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nfBurton |
#info nfburton = Chris Burton, Niagara Falls Public Library |
| 14:03 |
rfrasur |
#info rfrasur = Ruth Frasur, Evergreen Indiana, ECDI, lurker |
| 14:03 |
annagoben |
Well, it's a minimum, but given how busy we all are, I'll move on. |
| 14:03 |
annagoben |
#topic Approval of Minutes |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Approval of Minutes (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:03 |
annagoben |
#info Minutes from 2020-01-16 meeting: https://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-02-20-14.00.html |
| 14:03 |
annagoben |
Corrections, updates, suggestions? |
| 14:04 |
tlittle |
None here |
| 14:04 |
annagoben |
#startvote Accept minutes from 2020-02-20? yes, no |
| 14:04 |
pinesol |
Begin voting on: Accept minutes from 2020-02-20? Valid vote options are yes, no. |
| 14:04 |
pinesol |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:04 |
gmcharlt |
#vote yes |
| 14:04 |
annagoben |
#vote yes |
| 14:04 |
nfBurton |
#vote yes |
| 14:04 |
tlittle |
#vote yes |
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JBoyer |
#vote yes |
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annagoben |
#endvote |
| 14:04 |
pinesol |
Voted on "Accept minutes from 2020-02-20?" Results are |
| 14:04 |
pinesol |
yes (5): annagoben, JBoyer, gmcharlt, nfBurton, tlittle |
| 14:04 |
annagoben |
#topic Chair Report |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Chair Report (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:05 |
annagoben |
Nothing specific to report here. Bits and pieces later in the meeting. |
| 14:05 |
annagoben |
#topic Treasurer's Financial Report |
| 14:05 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Treasurer's Financial Report (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
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gmcharlt |
#info As is known, we were able to cancel the venue contract and the AV contract for the 2020 conference without financial penalty |
| 14:06 |
gmcharlt |
#info Preliminary information is that we'll owe about $800 to the Georgia University System Board of Regents for expenses incurred while the conference was been organized |
| 14:07 |
gmcharlt |
they will invoice us, though it may be some time before they prepare it |
| 14:07 |
gmcharlt |
so, we were very fortunate in terms of dodging a financial bullet |
| 14:07 |
annagoben |
Amazingly so. |
| 14:08 |
gmcharlt |
and I want to acknowledge both the efforts of the organizing committees and those at TEP/EOB, BOR, and MOBIUS who worked together to make a necessary decision quickly and effectively |
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gmcharlt |
we were lucky that the hotel was willing to allow the cancellation right away |
| 14:08 |
gmcharlt |
but I also think that we collectively put together a very strong argument in case the hotel had not been so willing |
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* csharp |
appears late |
| 14:09 |
gmcharlt |
#info A draft of the grant report due to SFC is availabe for review here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NEJaLNGFNzZPjVFVD2OOOhfAjP41ALVnSBGN6rVQssI/edit |
| 14:09 |
csharp |
sorry :-9 |
| 14:09 |
gmcharlt |
and, pending comment, propose to send it next week |
| 14:09 |
gmcharlt |
#info We've received the 1099 from the SFC for the grant |
| 14:09 |
annagoben |
Deadline for comments? |
| 14:10 |
gmcharlt |
let's say EOB on Monday, 3/23 |
| 14:10 |
annagoben |
++ |
| 14:10 |
csharp |
1+ |
| 14:10 |
csharp |
+1, even |
| 14:11 |
gmcharlt |
#info I've been working with annagoben on getting revised numbers put together for our 1023 filing. I got derailed by a couple things and am waiting an answer from MOBIUS on a piece of it, but hope to have that wrapped up early next week |
| 14:12 |
gmcharlt |
I think the main financial uncertainty at this point would be around the 2021 conference |
| 14:13 |
gmcharlt |
(a) whether there is reason to believe that we can expect lingering effects from the pandemic for event organizers |
| 14:13 |
gmcharlt |
and (b) verifying the numbers in light of the fact that even if we were to hold an online version of the 2020 conference, we won't likely get much revenue from such a thing |
| 14:14 |
gmcharlt |
so, that's it for me |
| 14:14 |
annagoben |
Thanks! gmcharlt++ |
| 14:14 |
annagoben |
#topic SFC Updates |
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Topic for #evergreen is now SFC Updates (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:14 |
annagoben |
We'll be chatting about the trademark later. Anything else to address at this point? |
| 14:15 |
annagoben |
#topic Release Manager Update |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Release Manager Update (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:16 |
annagoben |
I know this is supposed to be Bug Squash week, any updates there either? |
| 14:17 |
csharp |
3.5-beta is out and needs to be tested anywhere people can |
| 14:17 |
annagoben |
++ Hopefully some of the downtime with libraries being closed will help with that. |
| 14:17 |
annagoben |
#topic 2020 Conference Committee |
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Topic for #evergreen is now 2020 Conference Committee (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:17 |
csharp |
not much movement on bug squashing since everyone is focused on transitions from open to closed/kinda closed |
| 14:17 |
annagoben |
#info The 2020 conference was cancelled with minimal fiscal fallout in the way of liabilities. |
| 14:17 |
annagoben |
I'd like to thank the planning committee at PINES, the standing committee. MOBIUS, and the rest of the board for their swift and careful response to the effects of the pandemic on the conference planning. I am disappointed that we won't be able to hold a conference this year, but am proud that we have been able to address the situation for our base. |
| 14:18 |
annagoben |
I know the community has been thoroughly notified. Does the committee have any further follow-ups for us at this point? |
| 14:19 |
terranm |
The BOR expects to have refunds issued within 45 days (if no further restrictions go into effect) |
| 14:19 |
csharp |
(<-- not on the committee, but) there is whispering of trying to organize something virtual maybe after things hopefully calm down? |
| 14:19 |
terranm |
Possibly - I'm not in a state to think about it clearly right now |
| 14:19 |
csharp |
no one is! |
| 14:20 |
annagoben |
I like the idea of a virtual conference in a few months once things calm down a bit. We might actually be able to realize a slightly higher profit margin depending on rates charged. |
| 14:20 |
rfrasur |
terranm++ |
| 14:20 |
csharp |
terranm++ |
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annagoben |
terranm++ |
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* csharp |
knows how hard terranm and tlittle and others on our end worked on this |
| 14:21 |
JBoyer |
terranm++ |
| 14:21 |
annagoben |
I can only imagine, but it's very, very much appreciated. |
| 14:21 |
gmcharlt |
terranm++ |
| 14:21 |
tlittle |
terranm++ all the way! |
| 14:21 |
terranm |
I still feel bad about it, but thank you! |
| 14:21 |
nfBurton |
terranm++ |
| 14:22 |
abneiman |
from the peanut gallery, I'm happy to assist with organizing a virtual conference when it's time for that |
| 14:22 |
terranm |
abneiman++ |
| 14:22 |
tlittle |
abneiman++ |
| 14:22 |
rfrasur |
same |
| 14:22 |
abneiman |
mostly because I want it to happen :) |
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terranm |
PINES should be able to offer up Zoom and Google services. |
| 14:22 |
annagoben |
I'm sure there will be lots of support throughout the community! |
| 14:23 |
annagoben |
Let us know when you're ready to start discussing plans! |
| 14:24 |
annagoben |
#topic 2021 Conference Committee |
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Topic for #evergreen is now 2021 Conference Committee (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:24 |
annagoben |
#info No updates. |
| 14:24 |
annagoben |
As gmcharlt noted, we'll have to keep an eye on conditions. |
| 14:24 |
annagoben |
But we'll hope for the best in the meantime. |
| 14:24 |
annagoben |
Anyone else have anything on the 2021 conference? |
| 14:24 |
terranm |
Yes, we should all know more a month from now. |
| 14:25 |
tlittle |
I have a question |
| 14:25 |
annagoben |
? |
| 14:25 |
tlittle |
And it may be too far in the future to think about, but we were in a sticky situation because the insurance that MOBIUS got for the conference didn't include "pandemic coverage." I think I saw Donna/Debbie was looking into that for 2021--do we know if that's the case? |
| 14:26 |
annagoben |
I have not heard a follow-up on that as yet. |
| 14:26 |
annagoben |
gmcharlt, you? |
| 14:26 |
gmcharlt |
not yet |
| 14:26 |
annagoben |
It's definitely on the list though |
| 14:26 |
terranm |
It's definitely a good idea knowing what we know now. |
| 14:26 |
gmcharlt |
I'd certainly be in favor of getting such a rider, of course, though I wonder if they're available at any price at the moment:/ |
| 14:26 |
annagoben |
Depends on what that clause costs too. |
| 14:27 |
tlittle |
Okay. Obviously that's a bit in the future, but I think we're in uncharted territory now so I wanted to make sure that it was on the radar |
| 14:27 |
tlittle |
Definitely |
| 14:27 |
annagoben |
Ok, moving along. |
| 14:27 |
annagoben |
#topic Outreach Committee |
| 14:27 |
annagoben |
#info Emailed report here: http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/board/2020-March/000125.html |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Outreach Committee (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:27 |
rhamby |
I'm available for quesitons but I think it's self explanatory at this point in time. |
| 14:28 |
annagoben |
rhamby++ |
| 14:28 |
rhamby |
questions even :) |
| 14:28 |
annagoben |
I'm sure we'll have great need of the committee if we're able to move forward with the virtual event! |
| 14:28 |
rhamby |
We don't want to pass on doing something at ALA but obviously the situation is ... fluid. |
| 14:29 |
rhamby |
Yes, and we're perfectly glad to help organize it. |
| 14:29 |
terranm |
rhamby++ |
| 14:29 |
annagoben |
Thanks! |
| 14:29 |
annagoben |
#topic Unfinished Business: NPF Status - 1023 - Submission status |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Unfinished Business: NPF Status - 1023 - Submission status (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:29 |
annagoben |
#info Submission has been held up by new form requirements and some fiscal clarifications. |
| 14:30 |
annagoben |
We're getting close again. Very bummed that we missed the previous form window, but still hope to have it in this month |
| 14:30 |
annagoben |
Just waiting on info from MOBIUS at this point. |
| 14:31 |
annagoben |
Any questions? |
| 14:32 |
annagoben |
#topic Unfinished Business: 2020 Election |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Unfinished Business: 2020 Election (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:32 |
annagoben |
jvwoolf? |
| 14:33 |
jvwoolf |
Election is proceeding nicely with Opavote. |
| 14:33 |
annagoben |
Great! jvwoolf++ |
| 14:33 |
jvwoolf |
Will send out a reminder to the few registered voters who haven't voted yet later today |
| 14:34 |
annagoben |
How many registered? |
| 14:34 |
jvwoolf |
61 |
| 14:34 |
annagoben |
++ |
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annagoben |
#topic New Business: Trademark renewal |
| 14:34 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now New Business: Trademark renewal (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:34 |
annagoben |
#info SFC has inquired about whether or not to renew the trademark on our behalf. |
| 14:34 |
annagoben |
I'm in favor of that since the 1023 has been delayed. Any discussion? |
| 14:35 |
gmcharlt |
I'm in favor as well |
| 14:35 |
csharp |
+1 to renewing with them |
| 14:35 |
tlittle |
I agree |
| 14:35 |
jvwoolf |
+1 |
| 14:35 |
JBoyer |
Seems reasonable to me |
| 14:35 |
nfBurton |
agreed |
| 14:35 |
annagoben |
Ok, will respond requesting they move forward then. |
| 14:36 |
annagoben |
#topic Next meeting |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting for 2020-03-19, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=governance:minutes:2020-03-19) |
| 14:36 |
annagoben |
#info Our next meeting will be on April 16, 2020. |
| 14:36 |
annagoben |
Any other announcements before I close the meeting? |
| 14:36 |
csharp |
may I suggest we do that over some sort of teleconferencing medium? |
| 14:37 |
csharp |
since we're missing the f2f conference meeting? |
| 14:37 |
csharp |
allows for the handoff to the newer members to go more smoothly IMO |
| 14:37 |
annagoben |
I'm happy with that. I can offer up Microsoft or Zoom teleconference options. |
| 14:38 |
tlittle |
I think that's a good idea. We (PINES) have Zoom and Google to offer, whatever is best. |
| 14:38 |
gmcharlt |
+1 |
| 14:38 |
gmcharlt |
and EOLI can offer GoToMeeting |
| 14:38 |
csharp |
options++ |
| 14:38 |
gmcharlt |
so I think we've covered jsut about every major videoconference provider :) |
| 14:38 |
annagoben |
LOL, I think we have all the teleconference options there |
| 14:38 |
tlittle |
:D |
| 14:39 |
csharp |
whatever we use needs to be able to record the session into a file we can upload to the EG site if possible |
| 14:39 |
annagoben |
We'll hash it out on list then which service to use. I think they all offer a recording option, which is helpful. |
| 14:39 |
csharp |
cool |
| 14:39 |
annagoben |
Alright... |
| 14:39 |
annagoben |
#endmeeting |
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pinesol |
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| 14:39 |
pinesol |
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| 14:39 |
pinesol |
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| 14:39 |
pinesol |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-03-19-14.00.log.html |
| 14:39 |
annagoben |
Stay well everyone!!!! |
| 14:40 |
csharp |
annagoben++ |
| 14:40 |
tlittle |
annagoben++ |
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JBoyer |
annagoben++ |
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gmcharlt |
annagoben++ |
| 14:40 |
terranm |
health++ annagoben++ |
| 14:40 |
jvwoolf |
annagoben++ |
| 14:40 |
jvwoolf |
Sorry for being late! |
| 14:41 |
annagoben |
...now back to your unscheduled pandemic responding... |
| 14:41 |
terranm |
:) |
| 14:42 |
csharp |
pandemic-- |
| 14:42 |
nfBurton |
annagoben++ |
| 14:42 |
annagoben |
(IN public schools were closed by EO thru May 1 today; so lots of new evaluaiton being done here today.) |
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terranm |
Georgia schools are already switched to online classes as of this week |
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Dyrcona |
My wife teaches in New Hampshire and they're going to online classes next week, IIRC. |
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annagoben |
There's a lot of elearning here, yeah, but looks more and more likely there will be no more in-person classes at the schools for the 2019/20 school year. |
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Dyrcona |
annagoben: That's what I'm thinking will happen here, too. |
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Bmagic |
which OpenSRF services creates DB connections? cstore? pcrud? |
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berick |
Bmagic: cstore, pcrud, storage, rstore, qstore |
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berick |
s/rstore/reporter-store/ |
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Bmagic |
berick: so I need to add all those up (max_children) to get a theoretical max DB connection soak? |
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berick |
Bmagic: yep |
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Bmagic |
berick++ |
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Dyrcona |
Bmagic: Plus a few extra for psql connections. We never get close to using all of our database connections, btw. |
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Bmagic |
cstore: 125 , pcrud: 75 , reporter-store: 10 , storage: 60 , qstore: 15 , total 285... 5 bricks = 1425 theoretical connections |
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Bmagic |
looking at current utilization, I can guess that cstore can come down to more like 50. pcrud on the other hand is bumping up to it's max |
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Dyrcona |
Bmagic: I've found that cstore utilization can peak when a big library checks their holds pull list or holds shelf view. |
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Dyrcona |
pcrud also fluctuates a lot. |
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Dyrcona |
And right now is probably not a good time to look at current utilization. It may be lower than normal given the circumstances. |
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Bmagic |
true |
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Dyrcona |
I'm going to sign out, probably for the rest of the day. Good luck! |
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sandbergja |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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