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06:18 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
06:54 JBoyer Bmagic, thinking back on your ng-container issue, mixing ng-container and ng-repeat is like mixing Angular and AngularJS. You should probably use ng-container with ngfor (if that is an
06:55 JBoyer Angular 8 interface) or ng-repeat-begin and ng-repeat-end if it's an AngularJS interface.
06:55 JBoyer Though I guess if you're only repeating the contents of a single <tr> you could just put the ng-repeat in the tr.
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09:15 Bmagic JBoyer: it's whatever is running in the receipt template engine
09:15 Bmagic in 3.4
09:16 Bmagic I beleve I played with ngfor with no avail
09:17 JBoyer That might be why ng-container won't work either then, it's Angular, and the receipts are probably still AngularJS.
09:17 JBoyer But if you use ng-repeat (the AngularJS iterator) in a div, that would work. It might do what you want just putting the ng-repeat in the <tr>
09:17 Bmagic what makes them AngularJS? just syntax?
09:17 JBoyer Yeah, the syntax changed at some point
09:18 JBoyer JS never got the new stuff, and the newer Angular dropped some of the old stuff
09:23 Dyrcona Bmagic: What makes them AngularJS vs. Angular is which library is loaded at the time the receipt code runs.
09:24 Bmagic Dyrcona: that is more like what I expected the answer to be. Nothing about the template itself
09:28 Dyrcona So, when the staf client is rewritten, again, in Angular, you'll have to remember to modify your receipts, again. :)
09:28 Bmagic Right :(
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09:53 berick Bmagic: all client-rendered receipt templates execute as AngularJS.
09:55 berick Angular uses server-rendered templates.  to date, there are 2 such templates.  one is an example and the other is linnked to the experimental angular catalog.
09:56 Bmagic that helps - I'll be sure and only use AngularJS syntax for my billing template and I'll bet it works better :)
09:58 Dyrcona berick: Is the plan to have all Angular receipts render on the server?
09:59 berick Dyrcona: yes
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09:59 Dyrcona Good to know, thanks!
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14:44 sandbergja Just starting to look at auto-renew.  Is there a way to have some circmods auto-renew?  And others not?
14:47 mmorgan sandbergja: Yes, the autorenew parameters are part of the duration rule, and different circ mods can be pointed to different duration rules.
14:48 sandbergja mmorgan++
14:48 sandbergja Thanks!  That's exactly what I needed.
14:49 mmorgan YW!
14:50 * berick puts out call for dev meeting chair
14:51 mmorgan sandbergja: Just a head's up for when some items are autorenewable and some not: bug 1835953
14:51 pinesol Launchpad bug 1835953 in Evergreen "Autorenewals should not be attempted on circs where auto_renewal_remaining is NULL" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835953
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15:04 Stompro mmorgan, we are still seeing the no cover art issue.  Content Cafe is randomly bouncing between returning the correct results and saying that there is no cover art for a given ISBN.  I think one of their servers behind their load balancer must be broken.
15:04 * csharp looks around to see all other potential meeting chairs take a step backwards
15:04 csharp *sigh* - I'll do it
15:05 alynn26 csharp++
15:05 csharp #startmeeting 2020-03-03 - Developer Meeting
15:05 pinesol Meeting started Tue Mar  3 15:05:21 2020 US/Eastern.  The chair is csharp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
15:05 pinesol Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
15:05 Topic for #evergreen is now  (Meeting topic: 2020-03-03 - Developer Meeting)
15:05 pinesol The meeting name has been set to '2020_03_03___developer_meeting'
15:05 csharp #info agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-03-03
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15:05 csharp #topic roll call
15:05 Topic for #evergreen is now roll call (Meeting topic: 2020-03-03 - Developer Meeting)
15:05 berick @coffee csharp
15:05 * pinesol brews and pours a cup of Esmeralda Especial Best of Panama, and sends it sliding down the bar to csharp
15:05 csharp #info csharp is Chris Sharp, GPLS
15:06 csharp berick++
15:06 berick #info berick Bill Erickson, KCLS
15:06 Dyrcona #info Dyrcona is Jason Stephenson, CW MARS
15:06 alynn26 #info alynn26 is Lynn Floyd, EI
15:06 sandbergja #info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College
15:06 JBoyer #info JBoyer, Jason Boyer, EOLI
15:06 miker #info miker Mike Rylander, EOLI
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15:07 csharp #topic Action Items from Last Meeting
15:07 Topic for #evergreen is now Action Items from Last Meeting (Meeting topic: 2020-03-03 - Developer Meeting)
15:07 csharp #info berick will follow up on i18n/l10n issues and report back
15:07 csharp berick: you have the floor
15:08 berick k..
15:08 csharp (also sandbergja )
15:08 berick so progress made on bug 1862395
15:08 pinesol Launchpad bug 1862395 in Evergreen "Update Angular translations for poeditor pre-3.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862395 - Assigned to Bill Erickson (berick)
15:08 berick thanks for the assist sandbergja
15:08 berick if I'm reading the poeditor site correctly, though, we don't yet have new translactions to pull back into EG
15:08 sandbergja happy to do it!  thanks for getting it rolling
15:09 berick due in part to get the strings uploaded late in the game
15:10 csharp how can others help in keeping that ball rolling?
15:10 berick i'll put out a call for translators to review the poeditor content
15:10 csharp ah
15:11 csharp moving on then...
15:11 csharp #info csharp will work with terranm to get at least one sandbox server running master + pullrequest patches
15:11 csharp so yeah, the feedback fest was kind of a crazy good success
15:12 csharp we now have a good model for future feedback fests and bug squash weeks
15:12 csharp terranm++ # not in channel, but that was on her initiative
15:12 JBoyer csharp++
15:12 JBoyer terranm++
15:12 berick yeah, terranm++ big time
15:12 JBoyer That was a good week
15:13 csharp #info csharp will arrange testing for sandbergja's fix to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821094 on a realistic test server
15:13 pinesol Launchpad bug 1821094 in Evergreen 3.3 "Item status refresh after editing can get confusingly slow" [Medium,Confirmed]
15:13 csharp I can tell you right now that we haven't done that yet :-/
15:13 csharp #action csharp will arrange testing for sandbergja's fix to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821094 on a realistic test server :-)
15:13 sandbergja thanks, csharp!
15:13 csharp #info berick to open LP on showing link to ang staff cat by default in 3.5
15:14 berick i have not opened said LP, but I've given some additional thought to it..
15:14 berick testing the catalog without full integration is only going to tell us so much
15:15 berick i'm going to open an LP for promoting the Ang cat to becoming the default for (presumably) 3.6
15:15 berick if that's too early, we can bump to 3.7
15:16 berick but in any event, whenever it's merged, i think it needs to be merged very early in the release cycle
15:16 berick since it's a significant change
15:17 berick given that, I probably won't open an LP for making it visible by default in 3.5, unless there's a push to do so
15:17 * berick is open to suggestion as always
15:18 csharp no push from my direction, though we have been testing it among GPLS/PINES staff and plan to switch on the 3.4 version in production soon
15:18 berick csharp: good to hear.  i look forward to the feedback
15:19 csharp ok, any other residual items from the last meeting (or before) that needs discussion?
15:20 csharp #topic Release info: OpenSRF
15:20 Topic for #evergreen is now Release info: OpenSRF (Meeting topic: 2020-03-03 - Developer Meeting)
15:20 csharp anyone have OpenSRF news?
15:20 csharp I only see a couple of low priority fixes that have been targeted to a new release
15:21 miker still looking for time to work on param chunking, any extra hands welcome
15:22 miker that'll get us completely out from under ejabberd stanza size issues
15:22 miker (think: sending a big batch update for templates, huge marc records, etc)
15:23 csharp related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/1725317
15:23 pinesol Launchpad bug 1725317 in OpenSRF ""XML stanza is too big" still possible with chunking and bundling" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Galen Charlton (gmc)
15:23 miker I have a perl WIP of the context, I think it's on the working repo ... but JS support would be a big win
15:25 csharp #info miker is calling for assistance with OpenSRF chunking/bundling improvements
15:25 csharp #topic Release info: Evergreen
15:25 Topic for #evergreen is now Release info: Evergreen (Meeting topic: 2020-03-03 - Developer Meeting)
15:25 csharp beta tomorrow!
15:26 csharp Evergreen build teams will be snapping into action for that
15:26 csharp berick: anything you want to highlight?
15:27 berick the feedback fest action was probably biggest highlight
15:27 berick overall, a fairly calm release
15:27 berick debit payment payments probably the biggest new feature
15:27 csharp the DB upgrade script is non-threatening :-)
15:27 berick indeed, tis a modest sql update
15:28 berick question...
15:28 berick should we institute any kind of commit freeze for beta cutting?
15:28 berick i know we do that sometimes for release cutting to reduce churn and finalize release notes
15:29 Dyrcona I think it's a good idea.
15:29 csharp +1
15:30 berick k, thanks.  so, i'll post a note that we'd like to freeze commits tomorrow, except for those related to release cutting
15:30 alynn26 +1
15:31 berick another question..
15:31 csharp #info commit freeze will go into effect 3/4 to allow for cutting the 3.5 release
15:31 berick are we OK creating the origin/rel_3_5 branch after after the beta is out?
15:31 csharp I always prefer when we do that, fwiw
15:32 Dyrcona +1
15:32 berick great, thanks
15:32 alynn26 +1
15:33 * berick will proceed thusly
15:33 csharp #info we will create a rel_3_5 branch along with the beta
15:34 csharp ok, moving on
15:34 csharp #topic Release info: Hatch
15:34 Topic for #evergreen is now Release info: Hatch (Meeting topic: 2020-03-03 - Developer Meeting)
15:34 csharp this is a placeholder, but any updates from anyone?
15:34 berick I have no new Hatch updates
15:35 csharp moving on to New Business then
15:35 csharp #topic Feedback for New Features Under Development
15:35 Topic for #evergreen is now Feedback for New Features Under Development (Meeting topic: 2020-03-03 - Developer Meeting)
15:35 csharp not sure who added that, but take it away!
15:36 sandbergja I'm interested in bug 1627373 under needsdiscussion :-)
15:36 pinesol Launchpad bug 1627373 in Evergreen "Acq: We need to fully implement EDI availability codes" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627373
15:37 sandbergja csharp: berick: you two probably have the best idea about how to get that bug unstuck
15:37 csharp right - I just added that tag in the last day or so because I wanted consensus about the best way to implement it
15:38 csharp back in 2016, berick talked me out of my thoughts in the last paragraph of https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/1627373/comments/3 and I just kind of walked away from it since PINES acq libs weren't complaining
15:38 pinesol Launchpad bug 1627373 in Evergreen "Acq: We need to fully implement EDI availability codes" [Wishlist,New]
15:38 sandbergja (and it has an annoying cousin, bug 1770202, which causes more trouble for us locally)
15:38 pinesol Launchpad bug 1770202 in Evergreen "Evergreen only recognizes a few EDI order statuses" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1770202
15:40 berick i can spend some time with bug 1627373.
15:40 pinesol Launchpad bug 1627373 in Evergreen "Acq: We need to fully implement EDI availability codes" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627373
15:40 csharp I think the original approach I took in https://bugs.launchpad.net/eve​rgreen/+bug/1627373/comments/1 was more what we needed
15:40 csharp berick++
15:41 sandbergja berick++
15:42 csharp maybe this list of needsdiscussion bugs can be addressed as part of bugsquash week coming up?
15:42 csharp with a shared spreadsheet ala terranm
15:42 alynn26 bugsquash++
15:43 csharp #action berick will consider approaches to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627373
15:43 pinesol Launchpad bug 1627373 in Evergreen "Acq: We need to fully implement EDI availability codes" [Wishlist,New]
15:43 csharp #action csharp will organize a spreadsheet of needsdiscussion bugs to be walked through during bugsquash week
15:45 csharp it does seem that needsdiscussion is an indicator of things kind of mired in the mud
15:45 csharp #topic QA-related bugs
15:45 Topic for #evergreen is now QA-related bugs (Meeting topic: 2020-03-03 - Developer Meeting)
15:45 csharp welp, that's an empty result set
15:45 csharp hooray! we fixed 'em all!
15:45 miker EVERGREEN IS DONE, EVERYONE! WE DID IT!
15:45 sandbergja hahahahaha
15:46 * csharp highfives room
15:47 csharp ok, well, the floor is now open for anyone else's comments/questions/discussions
15:48 * JBoyer has been on the phone most of the meeting, but as far as the angular opac goes, would it help to swap to an on-by-default setup with an OUS to disable it, or do we want a hard cut "This is the future, welcome to it." date?
15:48 csharp maybe a "Catalog Classic™" button?
15:49 JBoyer csharp++
15:49 csharp @who moved my iframes?
15:49 pinesol Guest24783 moved your iframes.
15:49 berick JBoyer: full integration will require a lot of link rewriting.  making it something that can be toggled is non-trivial
15:49 JBoyer Ah, now I see. Yeah, that's a hard cut.
15:49 berick and not just the URL paths, but how the links are handled (angjs routing vs standard href, etc.)
15:49 berick JBoyer: yeah, I think it has to be a hard-cut
15:50 csharp #topic next developer meeting
15:50 Topic for #evergreen is now next developer meeting (Meeting topic: 2020-03-03 - Developer Meeting)
15:50 csharp The next meeting will be in person in Atlanta!
15:50 csharp (with IRC simulcast - maybe video too)
15:51 berick and technicolor!
15:51 csharp Police Squad! In color!
15:51 alynn26 See yall in Atlanta
15:51 csharp we'll have more details on when exactly that will be later
15:52 csharp ok, I think we're done.
15:52 csharp #endmeeting
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15:52 pinesol Meeting ended Tue Mar  3 15:52:11 2020 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
15:52 pinesol Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2020/evergreen.2020-03-03-15.05.html
15:52 pinesol Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2020/evergreen.2020-03-03-15.05.txt
15:52 pinesol Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2020/evergreen.2020-03-03-15.05.log.html
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15:52 berick csharp++
15:52 JBoyer csharp++
15:52 csharp all y'all++
15:52 Dyrcona csharp++ berick++
15:52 miker csharp++
15:53 JBoyer One last thought re: ng-catalog, since 3.5.0 hasn't been released yet, I think making it known now that 3.6.0 will make the switch and you can preview it now in 3.4+ should be enough warning.
15:54 JBoyer No one is required to upgrade to every release.
15:54 berick JBoyer: thanks.
15:55 berick i'll open the LP and if it seems we're generally in agreement, will make sure that's known in the various 3.5 posts
15:55 JBoyer berick++
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17:08 mmorgan StomproJ: We are also still seeing issues with cover images, it does seem like an issue with a content cafe server
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17:22 StomproJ mmorgan, I opened up a ticket with B&T support, and emailed coverimages@baker-taylor.com
17:22 StomproJ .
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18:00 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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