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Dyrcona |
berick | csharp: If you have any thoughts on bug 1858448, they would be appreciated. |
| 09:34 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1858448 in Evergreen 3.4 "Aged Payment (and Billing) Table Breaks Cash Report and Removes Relevant Payment Tracking Abilities" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1858448 |
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Bmagic |
I've got a few bib records that won't save. Upon clicking save the browser console spews tons of errors ""me.controlSet(...) is undefined"" forever until the page is reloaded. Comparing that to a bib that does save, I found that those errors appear upon page load but do not appear after saving.... |
| 10:32 |
Bmagic |
acctually, correction, those errors are spewing forever upon page load and never stop for the troubled bibs. Whereas on non-troubled bibs: those errors appear but do not go on forever. |
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| 10:36 |
berick |
Dyrcona: commented. I'm happy to help on that one. |
| 10:46 |
Bmagic |
it's a different error in Chrome: TypeError: Cannot read property 'bib_fields' of undefined |
| 10:58 |
Bmagic |
hmmmm, it seems that updating the 001 to agree with the BIB ID resolved it.... |
| 11:17 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic: I think there's a related LP bug for the editor changing the 001. Do you have the flag cat.bib.use_id_for_tcn set? |
| 11:17 |
Dyrcona |
berick++ |
| 11:18 |
Bmagic |
Dyrcona: that flag is set to true |
| 11:19 |
Bmagic |
so that's it - if the 001 doesn't agree with the BIB ID AND that flag is set true - this error happens |
| 11:19 |
Bmagic |
I believe that setting used to be false which would explain how the bib exists in the first place |
| 11:20 |
Dyrcona |
Bmagic: Maybe. It's supposed to replace the 001 with the bib id and move the original 001 to an 035 on import. |
| 11:20 |
Dyrcona |
You can try setting it back to false to see if that helps. |
| 11:21 |
Dyrcona |
BTW, bug 1859191 indicates that the web staff client MARC editor ignores that flag. |
| 11:21 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1859191 in Evergreen "Editing and saving MARC record changes the TCN value" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1859191 |
| 11:21 |
Bmagic |
Dyrcona++ |
| 11:23 |
Dyrcona |
Too many moving parts-- |
| 11:23 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 11:37 |
Dyrcona |
So, I added two new languages to the language filters and reingested the item_lang record attribrutes, but search is not pulling up records for those languages. |
| 11:37 |
Dyrcona |
Specifically, I've got a record with two 041$a on for eng and for per. This record comes up if I limit the search to eng, but not if I limit the search to per (Persian). |
| 11:39 |
Dyrcona |
I also added Armenian, and it doesn't appear to be working. I added Hebrew last year, and that seems to be working OK. |
| 11:40 |
Dyrcona |
I'll try the metabib.reingest_record_attributes again, but in the meantime if anyone has any ideas.... |
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sandbergja |
Dyrcona: just to check, does the item_lang entry in Administration>Server Administration>Record Attribute Definitions include 041$a? |
| 12:17 |
sandbergja |
That should have been added with multilingual search in 3.1 |
| 12:17 |
Dyrcona |
sandbergja: I don't use the Administration interface. The crad enty in the database does. |
| 12:18 |
sandbergja |
:-( that was my only idea |
| 12:19 |
Dyrcona |
tag = 041 sf_list = abdefgm |
| 12:19 |
Dyrcona |
I think the ingest blew up silently, so I'm trying again. |
| 12:25 |
Dyrcona |
Maybe I should try something less ham-fisted? https://pastebin.com/UBwMTX7Q |
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Dyrcona |
And, now, I'm being asked to expand the number of 041 subfields used. |
| 13:01 |
dluch |
Friendly reminder that the DIG meeting will begin in 1 hour |
| 13:27 |
sandbergja |
Christineb: Just saw that you are the community spotlight! Very well deserved! |
| 13:28 |
sandbergja |
Christineb++ |
| 13:28 |
Christineb |
sandbergja - Thank you!!! :) |
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dluch |
5 minutes to the DIG meeting! |
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dluch |
#startmeeting 2020-02-06 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting |
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pinesol |
Meeting started Thu Feb 6 14:00:26 2020 US/Eastern. The chair is dluch. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #evergreen is now (Meeting topic: 2020-02-06 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting) |
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pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to '2020_02_06___documentation_interest_group_meeting' |
| 14:00 |
dluch |
#topic Agenda |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Agenda (Meeting topic: 2020-02-06 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting) |
| 14:00 |
dluch |
#info The agenda can be found here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:dig_meetings:20200206-agenda |
| 14:00 |
dluch |
Welcome everyone! Today's meeting will be primarily collaboration and working on documentation. |
| 14:01 |
dluch |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Introductions (Meeting topic: 2020-02-06 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting) |
| 14:01 |
dluch |
Please paste "#info <username> is <name>, <affiliation>" to identify who you are and what organization, if any, you represent. |
| 14:01 |
dluch |
#info dluch is Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS |
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sandbergja |
#info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College |
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cmalm |
#info cmalm is Carissa Malmgren, Roanoke Public Library |
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rfrasur_ |
#info rfrasur is Ruth Frasur, Indiana State Library/Evergreen Indiana/ECDI |
| 14:04 |
dluch |
Small group today. Thank you for coming! If you join in later, feel free to introduce yourself when you arrive. |
| 14:04 |
jihpringle |
#info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka) |
| 14:05 |
dluch |
#topic Helpful Information: Documentation contributions and collaboration |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Helpful Information: Documentation contributions and collaboration (Meeting topic: 2020-02-06 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting) |
| 14:05 |
dluch |
#info You can find the Documentation Needs List at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:documentation_needs |
| 14:05 |
dluch |
#info DIG Roles can be found at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-docs:digparticipants |
| 14:05 |
dluch |
We are going to do a couple of quick business items, but let's try to get through them fairly quickly... |
| 14:05 |
dluch |
#topic Business |
| 14:05 |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Business (Meeting topic: 2020-02-06 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting) |
| 14:05 |
dluch |
#info Update on Documentation server move |
| 14:06 |
dluch |
gmcharlt: (or anyone) Where are we with this? |
| 14:07 |
dluch |
Well, we'll just circle back around to this topic next month! |
| 14:07 |
dluch |
#info Quick update on Antora progress |
| 14:07 |
dluch |
remingtron and bmagic: Where are we with Antora nav progress? |
| 14:08 |
remingtron |
dluch: let me check... |
| 14:08 |
Bmagic |
It's not "done" but remingtron has gone through several of the "modules" |
| 14:08 |
Bmagic |
has it been a month already? |
| 14:08 |
remingtron |
Bmagic: my thoughts exactly |
| 14:08 |
dluch |
It has, lol! |
| 14:09 |
dluch |
How about we come back to this in more detail for the March meeting? |
| 14:09 |
remingtron |
We still need to figure out how to do the topic manuals in Antora |
| 14:09 |
remingtron |
dluch: sounds good |
| 14:09 |
dluch |
Great. Thanks for all your work on this! |
| 14:09 |
dluch |
remingtron++ |
| 14:10 |
dluch |
bmagic++ |
| 14:10 |
dluch |
#info We will catch up on other action items at business at the March meeting |
| 14:10 |
dluch |
#info Anythihng else pressing? |
| 14:10 |
sandbergja |
I am wondering about if we can get antora into 3.5 |
| 14:10 |
Bmagic |
sandbergja: any feedback from your folks? I seem to remember you were asking people |
| 14:10 |
Bmagic |
I see the feedback on the LP bug |
| 14:11 |
sandbergja |
Bmagic: they liked it! The main feedback was about the navs |
| 14:11 |
Bmagic |
bug 1848524 |
| 14:11 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1848524 in Evergreen "wishlist: Antora-ize docs " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848524 |
| 14:11 |
remingtron |
sandbergja: we'll need a new docs server from gmcharlt before we can publish them |
| 14:12 |
dluch |
sandbergja: thanks for getting the feedback from your folks! |
| 14:12 |
sandbergja |
I am worried about us having to maintain both the Antora branch and the main repo for too long |
| 14:12 |
Bmagic |
sandbergja++ # fur sur |
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sandbergja |
I suspect that we will end up with content missing from both |
| 14:12 |
remingtron |
sandbergja: that's a good concern |
| 14:12 |
dluch |
sandbergja++ and sandbergja's people++ |
| 14:12 |
sandbergja |
We could probably host antora on docs-testing for a while |
| 14:12 |
sandbergja |
?? |
| 14:13 |
Bmagic |
works for me |
| 14:13 |
remingtron |
sounds ok |
| 14:13 |
dluch |
That sounds good. |
| 14:13 |
dluch |
What's necessary for that? |
| 14:13 |
sandbergja |
dluch: great question! |
| 14:14 |
sandbergja |
I can explore that as my project for the rest of the meeting. :-) |
| 14:14 |
sandbergja |
especially if remingtron and Bmagic are around to bounce questions off of |
| 14:14 |
sandbergja |
:-) |
| 14:15 |
dluch |
sandbergja++ |
| 14:15 |
Bmagic |
:) |
| 14:15 |
dluch |
Should we also add an action item for next time or no? |
| 14:15 |
remingtron |
sandbergja: I'll be around, though Bmagic has handled all the install stuff so far |
| 14:15 |
sandbergja |
yay! |
| 14:16 |
sandbergja |
Hmmmm... I remember the cutoff for 3.5 features being before the next DIG meeting |
| 14:16 |
dluch |
Oh, that's probably true |
| 14:16 |
Bmagic |
awwww, no 3.5 then? |
| 14:16 |
Bmagic |
maybe if we begged |
| 14:17 |
dluch |
Well, work on it may have to be done in between meetings |
| 14:17 |
Bmagic |
I'm not sure it needs to be included in the release in order to put it up |
| 14:17 |
Bmagic |
Taking advantage of the "versioning" in antora would be nice though |
| 14:18 |
dluch |
Feb. 26 was what berick said was feature freeze |
| 14:19 |
dluch |
Well, let's see what sandbergja figures out today, then go from there |
| 14:19 |
Bmagic |
with that date in mind - what if we all set aside some time on our calendars to meet up and finish it up... |
| 14:19 |
sandbergja |
What needs to be finished at this point? |
| 14:19 |
Bmagic |
are all of the sections done? |
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sandbergja |
And does it seem like we have enough consensus that antora is a direction that we want to move to? |
| 14:21 |
Bmagic |
sandbergja: that was the impression I got at the hack-a-way |
| 14:21 |
dluch |
I believe so. When we have talked about it at previous meetings, everyone seems pretty happy with it, other than some of the nav stuff |
| 14:22 |
Bmagic |
but that said - I think we can drop it. LOL |
| 14:22 |
dluch |
Okay, lol. moving on... (and you can keep talking about it in collaboration time, if you want) |
| 14:22 |
dluch |
Today's meeting is mainly for collaboration time, so let's move on to that! |
| 14:23 |
dluch |
#topic Collaboration time |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Collaboration time (Meeting topic: 2020-02-06 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting) |
| 14:23 |
dluch |
What is everyone planning to work on today? Please let us know here, and feel free to talk and work with each other. If you'd like extra accountability, I can make an action item to show up in the minutes, but it's not necessary. |
| 14:24 |
Bmagic |
remingtron sandbergja dluch - These modules have been touched: opac, development, admin_initial_setup, cataloging, shared, acquisitions |
| 14:25 |
remingtron |
the remaining modules should be easy |
| 14:25 |
dluch |
bmagic: thanks. And what's still left? |
| 14:25 |
remingtron |
I tried to tackle the harder more complex ones |
| 14:25 |
dluch |
remingtron++ |
| 14:26 |
Bmagic |
which leaves admin/ api/ appendix/ installation/ local_admin/ reports/ serials/ using_staff_client/ sys_admin/ |
| 14:26 |
Bmagic |
I think* |
| 14:28 |
remingtron |
I think local_admin and sys_admin are both empty |
| 14:28 |
remingtron |
just placeholders for the nav files |
| 14:30 |
Bmagic |
that's good |
| 14:31 |
Bmagic |
I'll nab reports |
| 14:32 |
dluch |
Unrelated to all that, but just as an fyi (and for accountability)... I've had a bunch of balls in the air, so haven't done much documenting, but I should have a little more time soon. So I will look over our needs list and pick at least two things to do before the next meeting. |
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Bmagic |
oh and circulation still needs done |
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Bmagic |
remingtron: did you deal with "indexterm:[bla bla bla]" - whilst reviewing? |
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remingtron |
Bmagic: hm, doesn't sounds familiar |
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Bmagic |
Not sure - leave it? |
| 14:46 |
remingtron |
I think that's real AsciiDoc, so I'd vote leave it, unless it causes a problem |
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* rfrasur_ |
is "listening and learning", btw. |
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* Bmagic |
loves rfrasur_ |
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* rfrasur_ |
also loves Bmagic |
| 14:50 |
dluch |
rfrasur++ |
| 14:59 |
dluch |
We are at time. Thanks for all the great work, everyone! Feel free to keep going after the meeting! |
| 14:59 |
dluch |
The next meeting will be March 5. Same time, same place. Regular business meeting first then collaboration time (if there's time). |
| 14:59 |
dluch |
Please continue using the email list for questions and other things that come up in between meetings. |
| 14:59 |
dluch |
And/or Launchpad |
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dluch |
Thanks for coming! |
| 15:00 |
dluch |
#endmeeting |
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pinesol |
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pinesol |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-02-06-14.00.html |
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pinesol |
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pinesol |
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remingtron |
dluch++ #thanks for keeping us on track! |
| 15:01 |
dluch |
:-) |
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Bmagic |
remingtron sandbergja: reports commit pushed |
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remingtron |
Bmagic++ #fast as lightning! |
| 15:06 |
Bmagic |
Lightning might be slightly faster :) |
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Bmagic |
results: http://antora.mobiusconsortium.org/prod/docs/latest/reports/introduction.html |
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rfrasur_ |
That looks really awesome. |
| 15:18 |
Bmagic |
you're really awesome |
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* rfrasur_ |
laughs |
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rfrasur_ |
Not really, but I'm alright. But the Antora stuff really is, and it's interesting to see how it might be used for local documentation in the future along with the general Evergreen docs. |
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berick |
:) |
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Bmagic |
Clicking around on that site - I'm realizing that we might only have two sections left: circulation and serials |
| 15:21 |
Bmagic |
the search is my favorite |
| 15:22 |
Bmagic |
"Using the Browser Staff Client" still needs it's sub pages headers upgraded |
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Bmagic |
what does it mean when the gateway.log shows this: Session cache for thread 0.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx does not match request |
| 16:12 |
Bmagic |
That's the only error I can see that might be related to why I cannot add a permission to a permission group using the staff client (web client but dojo within) |
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jeffdavis |
Anyone have experience with something like this: EZProxy authenticates against Evergreen (via cgi script or whatever); Evergreen uses auth_proxy to authenticate with LDAP? Any reason why that wouldn't work? |
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jeffdavis |
doesn't need to be EZProxy, just that general kind of scenario where EG is an auth provider but is itself using authentication proxy |
| 17:16 |
jeffdavis |
it feels wrong but I don't see an obvious reason why it shouldn't work (assuming the EZProxy piece is auth_proxy aware) |
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jeff |
our cgi+ticket method may or may not be auth-aware. I think it's just making OpenSRF calls via the gateway. |
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jeffdavis |
seems like the C auth methods aren't auth_proxy aware, but using open-ils.auth_proxy.login in that scenario seems like it should work |
| 17:25 |
jeffdavis |
albeit inefficient |
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jeff |
heh, meant to say "may or may not be auth_proxy-aware". not being auth-aware would be amusing. |
| 17:26 |
jeffdavis |
ezproxy access for all! |
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JBoyer |
Bmagic: that error sounds similar to what happens if you have nginx in front of apache and the apache config still has the RemoteIP stuff commented out. That does cause problems with the dojo interfaces. |
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Bmagic |
hmmm, didn't check that |
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Bmagic |
those lines are commented out |
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Bmagic |
sorry, not commented out (uncommented) |
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