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	<td class="time" id="i_432926"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432926">01:23</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432927"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432927">01:53</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432928"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432928">06:01</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td>
	<td class="msg ">News from qatests: Failed Create Evergreen Database &lt;<a href="http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//archive/2020-01/2020-01-10_04:00:02/test.41.html" title="http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//archive/2020-01/2020-01-10_04:00:02/test.41.html">http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live//arch​ive/2020-01/2020-01-10_04:00:02/test.41.html</a>&gt;</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432930"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432930">06:57</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432931"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432931">07:26</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432932"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432932">08:28</a></td>
	<td style="color: #005c5c" class="nick">pastebot</td>
	<td class="msg ">&quot;phasefx&quot; at 168.25.130.30 pasted &quot;re: pgtap failure&quot; (34 lines) at <a href="http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10119" title="http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10119">http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10119</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432933"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432933">08:31</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">investigating an issue where bib TCNs are getting changed to the record ID upon saving - I've ruled out BibCommon.pm as a possible cause - now looking at marcedit.js</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432934"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432934">08:32</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">apparently only happening when editing an existing record - imports from z39.50 are not affected as far as I understand</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432935"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432935">08:32</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">confirmed - only already existing records</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432936"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432936">08:32</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432937"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432937">08:33</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">(on 3.4 testing server, btw)</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432938"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432938">08:35</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432939"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432939">08:40</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432940"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432940">08:44</a></td>
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	<td class="msg ">_bott_ left #evergreen</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432941"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432941">08:45</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432942"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432942">08:59</a></td>
	<td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td>
	<td class="msg ">csharp: Could someone have changed a global flag? cat.bib.use_id_for_tcn</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432943"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432943">09:00</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432944"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432944">09:01</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">not in this case - I checked that early on</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432945"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432945">09:01</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">also, looks like that's only consulted during import if I'm reading BibCommon.pm correctly</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432946"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432946">09:01</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">edited records should preserve whatever the TCN is</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432947"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432947">09:10</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432948"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432948">09:13</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432949"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432949">09:20</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">issue confirmed on current master</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432950"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432950">09:38</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432951"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432951">09:41</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432952"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432952">09:47</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">..and now my master server is permanently white-screened for some reason</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432953"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432953">09:52</a></td>
	<td style="color: #9d6200" class="nick">Bmagic</td>
	<td class="msg ">whitescreen--</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432954"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432954">09:54</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">pretty sure it's the new hatch changes + me not having upgraded my db after applying them</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432955"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432955">10:00</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432956"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432956">10:15</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">ok, I tracked the TCN issue down to the fix for bug 1693580</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432957"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432957">10:15</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">pinesol: yo</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432958"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432958">10:15</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td>
	<td class="msg ">Launchpad bug 1693580 in Evergreen 3.3 &quot;web client: attempting to update a MARC record without required permissions fails without feedback to the user&quot; [Medium,Fix released] <a href="https://launchpad.net/bugs/1693580" title="https://launchpad.net/bugs/1693580">https://launchpad.net/bugs/1693580</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432959"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432959">10:15</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td>
	<td class="msg ">csharp: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432960"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432960">10:15</a></td>
	<td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td>
	<td class="msg ">pinesol throwing some shade</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432961"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432961">10:15</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td>
	<td class="msg ">berick: <a href="http://cat.evergreen-ils.org.meowbify.com/" title="http://cat.evergreen-ils.org.meowbify.com/">http://cat.evergreen-ils.org.meowbify.com/</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432962"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432962">10:16</a></td>
	<td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td>
	<td class="msg ">oh no, meowbify is gone</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432963"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432963">10:16</a></td>
	<td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td>
	<td class="msg ">har <a href="https://github.com/mobify/meowbify" title="https://github.com/mobify/meowbify">https://github.com/mobify/meowbify</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432964"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432964">10:25</a></td>
	<td style="color: #009034" class="nick">* csharp</td>
	<td class="msg act ">opens <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1859191" title="https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1859191">https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1859191</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432965"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432965">10:25</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td>
	<td class="msg ">Launchpad bug 1859191 in Evergreen &quot;Editing and saving MARC record changes the TCN value&quot; [High,New]</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432967"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432967">10:30</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432968"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432968">10:35</a></td>
	<td style="color: #357843" class="nick">JBoyer</td>
	<td class="msg ">csharp: I don't know if it counts as insight, but the reason for the change in that bug is the change from a pcrud update on bre vs calling the open-ils.cat.biblio.record.marc.replace API, which does more stuff. Some of that other stuff must include accidentally updating the TCN when it's not supposed to.</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432969"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432969">10:38</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">oh - I'll look there - thanks for the pointer</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432970"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432970">10:42</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">my $fix_tcn = $self-&gt;api_name =~ /replace/o; - I guess this sets $fix_tcn to &quot;true&quot;</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432971"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432971">10:44</a></td>
	<td style="color: #357843" class="nick">JBoyer</td>
	<td class="msg ">Yup.</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432972"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432972">10:44</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">yeah, and the _find_tcn_info sub grabs whatever's in the 001 and makes it the TCN - that seems to be the problem</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432973"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432973">10:44</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">that needs to be checking the global flag</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432974"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432974">10:45</a></td>
	<td style="color: #357843" class="nick">JBoyer</td>
	<td class="msg ">I'm surprised this wasn't a bigger deal in the xul client, I didn't think that api had changed in ages.</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432975"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432975">10:45</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">I only know that it wasn't because PINES would've exploded and burned down by now if it was :-)</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432976"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432976">10:54</a></td>
	<td style="color: #275d36" class="nick">gmcharlt</td>
	<td class="msg ">csharp: I've responded in the bug as well</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432977"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432977">10:54</a></td>
	<td style="color: #275d36" class="nick">gmcharlt</td>
	<td class="msg ">upshot: open-ils.cat.biblio.record.xml.update appears to be what's needed</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432978"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432978">10:55</a></td>
	<td style="color: #275d36" class="nick">gmcharlt</td>
	<td class="msg ">also, this affects both the AngularJS and Angular sides</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432979"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432979">10:57</a></td>
	<td style="color: #3c002e" class="nick">* berick</td>
	<td class="msg act ">follows conversation</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432980"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432980">10:58</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">gmcharlt++</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432981"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432981">11:04</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">gmcharlt: I can confirm that changing that call to xml.update works</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432982"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432982">11:53</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432983"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432983">11:57</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432984"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432984">11:57</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
	<td class="msg ">gmcharlt: I added a branch to bug 1859191 for review - not sure about how to test Angular cataloging</td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432985"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432985">11:57</a></td>
	<td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td>
	<td class="msg ">Launchpad bug 1859191 in Evergreen &quot;Editing and saving MARC record changes the TCN value&quot; [High,Confirmed] <a href="https://launchpad.net/bugs/1859191" title="https://launchpad.net/bugs/1859191">https://launchpad.net/bugs/1859191</a></td>
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	<td class="time" id="i_432986"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-10#i_432986">12:10</a></td>
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