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<td class="time" id="i_431777"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431777">01:39</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431778"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431778">06:01</a></td>
<td style="color: #4e00a3" class="nick">pinesol</td>
<td class="msg ">News from qatests: Testing Success <<a href="http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live" title="http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live">http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live</a>></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431780"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431780">10:44</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431781"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431781">10:51</a></td>
<td style="color: #100090" class="nick">dbs</td>
<td class="msg ">Weird, back in <a href="http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2019-11-18#i_426876" title="http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2019-11-18#i_426876">http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2019-11-18#i_426876</a> jeff said upup should automatically load new resources based on expire time</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431782"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431782">10:52</a></td>
<td style="color: #100090" class="nick">dbs</td>
<td class="msg ">But I just logged into the staff client on a computer I hadn't used for days and got a white screen of death until I refreshed manually (used Network dev tools panel + disable cache to reload the page)</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431783"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431783">10:54</a></td>
<td style="color: #100090" class="nick">dbs</td>
<td class="msg ">text/html requests show an expire time of 18 hours, per the example config</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431784"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431784">10:56</a></td>
<td style="color: #100090" class="nick">dbs</td>
<td class="msg ">but <a href="https://laurentian.concat.ca/js/ui/default/staff/build/js/core.bundle.js" title="https://laurentian.concat.ca/js/ui/default/staff/build/js/core.bundle.js">https://laurentian.concat.ca/js/ui/default/staff/build/js/core.bundle.js</a> and <a href="https://laurentian.concat.ca/IDL2js?locale=en-US" title="https://laurentian.concat.ca/IDL2js?locale=en-US">https://laurentian.concat.ca/IDL2js?locale=en-US</a> also have an expire time of 1 year, also per the example config</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431785"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431785">10:57</a></td>
<td style="color: #100090" class="nick">dbs</td>
<td class="msg ">This seems like a non-optimal default, given that they were set so long based on the assumption that the cache-busting param would be in play</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431786"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431786">11:00</a></td>
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<td class="msg ">(per <a href="https://github.com/evergreen-library-system/Evergreen/blob/master/Open-ILS/examples/apache_24/eg.conf.in#L90" title="https://github.com/evergreen-library-system/Evergreen/blob/master/Open-ILS/examples/apache_24/eg.conf.in#L90">https://github.com/evergreen-library-system/Evergreen/blob/master/Open-ILS/examples/apache_24/eg.conf.in#L90</a> )</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431787"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431787">11:01</a></td>
<td style="color: #800064" class="nick">* dbs</td>
<td class="msg act ">resets his expire times to 4 hours across the board for everything for now</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431788"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431788">11:32</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431789"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431789">12:10</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431790"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431790">12:37</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">the upup cache-version value is set to the current day at the tt2 template level, so if your browser loaded a fresh copy of that html (which it probably did, if it was set to cache for 18 hours and had been not used for days).</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431791"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431791">12:38</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">that should have caused upup to re-fetch what it considers assets "for offline access".</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431792"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431792">12:38</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">but i don't think it has any overall effect on other resources cached by the browser for the origin in question.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431793"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431793">12:38</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">even if it's within the upup "scope"</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431794"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431794">12:39</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">that comment in the apache config for "to force browsers to reload them immediately" does seem to assume that the output of a template using cache.tt2 would not itself be cached... that might be true now that i say it.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431795"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431795">12:41</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">since we set "access plus 5 seconds" as the ExpiresByType for text/html in <Location /eg/opac> (in eg_vhost.conf)</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431796"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431796">12:41</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">(then there's the internal template toolkit cache on disk...)</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431797"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431797">12:45</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">...but in the case of both URLs in your example of those having a one year expiry, they should be already in the assets array for upup, so they'd in theory be re-fetched.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431798"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431798">13:06</a></td>
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<td class="msg ">(hrm.)</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431800"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431800">16:08</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431801"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431801">16:17</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_431803"><a href="/evergreen/2020-01-01#i_431803">18:01</a></td>
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<td class="msg ">News from qatests: Testing Success <<a href="http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live" title="http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live">http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live</a>></td>
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