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06:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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10:16 mmorgan Anybody heard of a situation where Chrome on two different workstations shows a different due date for the same checkout?
10:17 mmorgan The due date in the db is 2020-01-02 00:59:59-05 (another story there), one workstation showed 1-01-2020, another showed 1-02-2020.
10:18 mmorgan Much cache clearing, restarting, etc., did not change what was displayed.
10:18 mmorgan The actual due date should have had the timestamp of midnight, but wondering what would cause the different display.
10:19 miker mmorgan: yes.  Most likely, either the client computer timezones are different, or the timezone library setting for the  workstations on the two computers are different
10:23 * mmorgan can ask the library to check the timezone, but still wonders why timezone would cause the due date to display as earlier than it actually is. Is there a bug?
10:23 * mmorgan goes to look
10:24 JBoyer mmorgan, the item was likely checked out on a machine with a different timezone set or incorrect timezone ou setting.
10:25 JBoyer I'm assuming the one that shows the date as 2020-01-01 has the problem, since it's in the same timezone as the circ (on that machine, it IS due at 23:59:59, because it's not in GMT-5)
10:29 * mmorgan attempts to process that with insufficient caffeine
10:30 miker mmorgan: for when you are appropriately caffeinated: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1705524
10:30 pinesol Launchpad bug 1705524 in Evergreen "Honor timezone of the acting library where appropriate" [Wishlist,Fix released]
10:31 miker (main takeaway, a top level lib.timezone YAOUS may help prevent this in the future)
10:31 miker if you don't have that set already
10:33 JBoyer mmorgan What I mean is that I think the machine that shows it due on the first is in Central Time. That timestamp in Central Time is 2020-01-01 23:59:59-06, but in Eastern Time it's 2020-01-02 00:59:59-05
10:34 JBoyer But like miker mentioned, just setting the timezone OU to America/New_York at the top consortium level should make this situation a lot harder to encounter. :)
10:34 JBoyer (I'm not going to say impossible, because come on, computers.)
10:35 mmorgan Ok, getting it, so the db stores the due date in in Eastern Time. If we set the ou setting at Consortium, it will override whatever timezone setting the workstation has?
10:35 JBoyer It should, yes
10:36 mmorgan Ok, thanks!
10:36 miker well, the problem is the initial checkout set the due date in central time (or whatever)
10:36 JBoyer Yeah, the only way to fix that circ is to just nudge the time by hand, but that setting will stop new ones from showing up.
10:37 mmorgan Ok, gotcha, I know I have to fix circs.
10:37 miker so that circ is probably going to be wonky regardless.  but(!), that setting should make the display /consistent/ for the circ, even if everything shows jan 2
10:37 * mmorgan goes to get caffeine and follow up with the library
10:37 mmorgan miker++
10:37 mmorgan JBoyer++
10:44 * Dyrcona looks at db upgrade from 3.2.8 to 3.4.1 and that aged money billing and aged money payment looks like it might cause some issues similar to the fixes for auto_renewal.
10:52 * Dyrcona thinks it might not be so bad after all, but it remains to be seen.
11:14 * mmorgan is still wondering about poprel if miker has any more insight since http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2019-12-11#i_430114
11:19 miker mmorgan: I won't have time today to really dig into it, but I'll be looking at search stuff next week, so I'll be in the right brain space then (sorry)
11:22 mmorgan Ok, thanks! will keep poking test systems in the meantime
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12:10 mantis1 Got a question regarding Hatch.  My supervisor got an email from an employee asking how to enable the Hatch extension on her browser on her Mac and she led her to these instructions: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working​/Hatch.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.adoc;h=2de29​bb97135142c4a014fcbf32ef04287e01871;hb=f​f8eafb089f61930cdf34c374020c1d3eacbd9fb  Thinking about it, most library staff who need to enable Hatch on Macs probably wo
12:10 mantis1 to execute these instructions without some guidance or having someone familar with git to do it.  Has anyone found an alternative that has helped?
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12:16 berick mantis1: i'm not aware of any work done to improve the install process for Hatch on macs (or linux).  i agree there is much room for improvement there.
12:17 mmorgan mantis1: Does the employee really need to be using hatch? Will printing through the browser suffice?
12:22 mantis1 mmorgan: The employee definitely has that option, but I don't know the reasons why she asked if there was some sort of Hatch installer for Mac.
12:22 mantis1 Luckily we have the browser system that's reliable, but we would like to know if there are any further developments we don't know about or possible alternatives besides a browser.
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12:28 mmorgan mantis1: berick provided some pointers here: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/​evergreen/2019-05-08#i_405323 You may have seen that already.
12:32 mantis1 mmorgan: thank you very much for the link!
12:32 mmorgan yw!
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13:41 pinesol [evergreen|Lynn] Docs: Glossary Added - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5609fc4>
13:41 pinesol [evergreen|lfloyd] Docs: Added linkages, and additonal terms. - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fec9789>
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15:03 remingtron alynn26++ abneiman++ sandbergja++ #docs glossary
15:05 alynn26 Take it apart, add to it. Enjoy it,
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16:00 abneiman alynn26++ # yay glossary
16:01 abneiman sandbergja++ #endless patience with git lessons :)
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17:34 jeffdavis too early to be definitive, but it's looking like >90% reduction in open-ils.actor.ou_setting.ancestor_default.batch requests with the fix for bug 1848550, very encouraging
17:34 pinesol Launchpad bug 1848550 in Evergreen "Cache settings more aggressively in web client" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848550
18:00 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Building the AsciiDoc output formats <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.81.html#2019-12-12T18:00:15,895945080-0500 -0>
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