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11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-07T11:00:51,274639219-0500 -0>
11:27 jeff Anyone have a favorite thermal printer that prints on sticky paper? Our go-to was the Epson TM-T88 ReStick series, but that and the Star models we've looked at to replace it are both becoming difficult to find. I think the Epson one is being discontinued, unclear if the other is just a temporary shortage.
11:31 jeff MAXStick paper seems to be similar to the ReStick.
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12:40 Bmagic After upgrading a test machine from 3.1 to 3.3 - it was noticed that the subject browse results are different and in a different order. Is that expected? (after upgrade, reingest was performed and completed)
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12:49 * csharp stopped working on testing hopeless holds because he just couldn't do it anymore
12:49 stephengwills holding off on that, eh?
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12:52 csharp stephengwills: just trying out a joke I thought of when the word "hopeless" was in every commit message :-)
12:53 jeffdavis I think both of your jokes were pretty on target
12:53 stephengwills now I have CSNY stuck in my head in the stupidest way.
12:53 csharp :-D
12:54 csharp stephengwills: I went the same direction - Neil Young: hopeless hopeless ho-opeless
12:54 stephengwills csharp++
12:55 csharp Bmagic: I don't recall anyone mentioning browse issues after our 3.0-3.2 upgrade, so it might be a 3.3 issue?
12:57 Dyrcona csharp++
12:57 Dyrcona Bmagic: I have the same thought as csharp. Could be a 3.3 thing or quantum software effects.
13:11 Bmagic I thought there were some fundamental changes to search between 3.1 and 3.3?
13:14 Dyrcona We went from 3.0 to 3.2 last Spring and there were some changes there, but no one has really complained about browse changing.
13:15 Bmagic good to know - I'll dig more
13:15 Dyrcona Have you a) checked the release notes and b) checked the git log?
13:15 Bmagic I checked the notes
13:15 Dyrcona :)
13:16 Dyrcona OK. I was about to look at the release notes again out of curiosity.
13:17 Dyrcona Actually, that's not a bad idea: looking at the release notes. I haven't really looked at the 3.3 and 3.4 notes, yet.
13:18 Dyrcona Apparently, I have looked at the 3.3 release notes, since a couple of the section links show up as "visited" in my browser. :)
13:20 Dyrcona Nothing about browse in there, but steps about update to Pg 9.6 or later that i should do on my training and test database servers. Bmagic++ # for serendipity
13:21 berick Bmagic: there was some browse code refactoring in 3.3
13:22 berick intention was to avoid any changes, but some may have snuk in
13:22 berick @band add Snuk
13:22 pinesol berick: Band 'Snuk' added to list
13:22 csharp @blame [band] for [praise]
13:22 pinesol csharp: I come to bury Dyrcona csharp, not to praise them. for (praise [<channel>] [<id>] <who|what> [for <reason>]) -- Praises <who|what> (for <reason>, if given). If <id> is given, uses that specific praise. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
13:23 csharp @blame [band] for [praise [quote random]]
13:23 * pinesol Fit Fetch forgot to give the gerbils their chocolate-frosted sugar bombs for The Quote #136: "< Dyrcona> Come! Witness the heat death of the universe." (added by csharp at 09:51 AM, January 06, 2016) abides.
13:23 Dyrcona Talk about quantum software effects...
13:26 berick @ana quantum software effects
13:26 pinesol berick: New fame cutoff squatters
13:27 Dyrcona @band add New Fame Cutoff Squatters
13:27 pinesol Dyrcona: Band 'New Fame Cutoff Squatters' added to list
13:28 berick that is a good one
13:28 Dyrcona Hmm... This seems odd: ERROR:  index "actor_usr_first_given_name_unaccent_idx" does not exist.  If I look in another database before running the DROP INDEX, the index is there.
13:30 csharp @band add [ana hopeless holds]
13:30 pinesol csharp: Band 'Slosh so helped' added to list
13:34 Dyrcona Ah ha. It works if I schema qualify the index with "actor."
13:38 Dyrcona @praise [band] for their first album, Schema Qualified.
13:38 * pinesol In days of old, it was prophesied that a hero would come and restore karmic balance to #evergreen. Fly Taser is that hero. for their first album, Schema Qualified.
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13:49 dluch Reminder that DIG will be meeting here in 12 minutes
13:49 Bmagic dluch++
13:50 remingtron dluch: the Antora Team is ready!
13:51 dluch remingtron: awesome!
13:52 Bmagic Dyrcona: what does it mean when there are more than one browse entry for the same set of bib records? Search results are doubled but they have unique browse_entry ID's
13:54 Dyrcona Bmagic: I'm not really the search expert, but you could try a browse reingest with pingest.pl.
13:54 Bmagic that's been done
13:55 Bmagic I think there is some trouble in the custom browse field configuration somewhere
13:56 sandbergja Bmagic: there's bug 1772981, which results in a bunch of superfluous author browse entries
13:56 pinesol Launchpad bug 1772981 in Evergreen "Bibliographic browse headings show relator information" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1772981
13:57 csharp @band add "Superfluous Authors"
13:57 pinesol csharp: Band 'Superfluous Authors' added to list
13:57 Bmagic sandbergja++
13:57 sandbergja Might not be what you're looking for, but I found dbwells' troubleshooting advice really helpful on that bug
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14:00 dluch #startmeeting 2019-11-07 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting
14:00 pinesol Meeting started Thu Nov  7 14:00:58 2019 US/Eastern.  The chair is dluch. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:00 pinesol Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:00 Topic for #evergreen is now  (Meeting topic: 2019-11-07 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting)
14:00 pinesol The meeting name has been set to '2019_11_07___documentatio​n_interest_group_meeting'
14:01 dluch #topic Agenda
14:01 Topic for #evergreen is now Agenda (Meeting topic: 2019-11-07 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting)
14:01 dluch #info The agenda can be found here:  https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=​evergreen-docs:dig_meetings:20191107-agenda
14:01 dluch Welcome everyone!  Today's meeting will be business, followed by collaboration and working on documentation.
14:01 dluch #topic Introductions
14:01 Topic for #evergreen is now Introductions (Meeting topic: 2019-11-07 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting)
14:01 dluch Please paste "#info <username> is <name>, <affiliation>" to identify who you are and what organization, if any, you represent.
14:01 dluch #info dluch is Debbie Luchenbill, MOBIUS
14:02 remingtron #info remingtron is Remington Steed, Hekman Library (Calvin University)
14:02 Bmagic #info Bmagic is Blake GH, MOBIUS
14:02 jihpringle #info jihpringle is Jennifer Pringle, BC Libraries Cooperative (Sitka)
14:02 alynn26 #Info alynn26 is Lynn Floyd (Evergreen Indiana)
14:02 abneiman #info abneiman is Andrea Buntz Neiman, Equinox
14:02 sandbergja #info sandbergja is Jane Sandberg, Linn-Benton Community College
14:03 jweston #info jweston is Jennifer Weston, Equinox
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14:04 dluch Thank you all for coming! If you come in later, feel free to introduce yourself when you arrive.
14:04 dluch Also, before we get started, I have a doctor's appointment I should have canceled but forgot to, so need to leave on the half hour.  If we're still going then (which I assume we will be), will someone volunteer to become the meeting "runner" to finish and close out the meeting?  Please?  (I can email you my "script" outline for the meeting, if you want.)
14:05 abneiman dluch: I can do that - script would be appreciated tho :)
14:05 dluch abneiman: Thank you!  I'll get that to you in just a minute!
14:05 dluch abneiman++
14:05 dluch #topic Helpful Information: Documentation contributions and collaboration
14:05 Topic for #evergreen is now Helpful Information: Documentation contributions and collaboration (Meeting topic: 2019-11-07 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting)
14:06 dluch #info You can find the Documentation Needs List at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php​?id=evergreen-docs:documentation_needs
14:06 dluch #info DIG Roles can be found at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=evergreen-docs:digparticipants
14:06 dluch #topic Old and Ongoing Business
14:06 Topic for #evergreen is now Old and Ongoing Business (Meeting topic: 2019-11-07 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting)
14:06 dluch #info Previous Action Items
14:06 dluch How are we doing on these?  I'll take them in order...
14:06 dluch #1, adding ideas for simple topics in the Quick Starts section of the wiki (https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php​?id=evergreen-docs:documentation_needs, scroll past the Easy Tasks section).  I see some there.  Anyone added anything recently?  Do we need to keep this as an action item?
14:07 stephengwills #info stephengwills Maine Balsam Libraries
14:07 sandbergja I think we don't need to keep it as an action item
14:08 dluch Cool.  I agree, but didn't want to arbitrarily make that call.  :-)
14:08 dluch #2, sandbergja: video for proof of concept there?  (I haven't looked recently.)
14:08 sandbergja haha nope
14:08 alynn26 I do too, getting back  in the swing of things since the Job change,
14:08 sandbergja can we push that until next time please?
14:08 dluch sandbergja: Yep!
14:09 dluch alynn26: what's your new job?
14:09 alynn26 Jason Boyers old job.
14:09 alynn26 at the Indiana State Library
14:09 dluch #action sandbergja will make a proof of concept for the Quick Starts section
14:09 dluch Awesome, congratulations!
14:09 alynn26 Thanks
14:10 dluch #3, jweston or abneiman: Did CWG talk about MARC Edit, right-clicking, and accessibility?  I didn't remember that coming up at the October meeting.
14:10 jweston We talked about Angular Staff Catalog in October and lots of launchpad bugs -- now combined on cwg wiki so I would say it is covered
14:11 dluch Okay, so remove the action item?
14:11 jeff aside: I *think* I just added abneiman as chair of this meeting, so that the dluch -> abneiman handoff should be uneventful.
14:11 abneiman dluch: we talked about it in the August meeting
14:11 abneiman jeff++
14:11 dluch jeff: Thanks!
14:11 dluch jeff++
14:11 jweston yes, I think it is fine to remove the action item - thanks
14:11 dluch jweston++ abneiman++
14:11 abneiman link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DrKYz3N3qDwc​GSTWIQ-fV0EVonptphqp2PMQh1QUF0k/edit?usp=sharing
14:12 dluch Thanks!
14:12 dluch #4, sandbergja: Did you explore how to and then request abneiman be given docs committing privileges?  Do I remember correctly that actually getting done before the end of the September DIG meeting?
14:12 sandbergja Yep, abneiman has all sorts of powers now :-D
14:12 jweston abneiman: ++ thanks for finding it on the cwg notes :)
14:12 dluch Awesome, thanks!
14:12 dluch sandbergja++
14:12 dluch #5, gmcharlt and/or rsoulliere:  How's work coming on moving the docs server?
14:13 abneiman jweston: np, I knew we HAD discussed it but I couldn't recall when :)
14:13 abneiman gmcharlt is not available right now but I can follow up with him
14:13 dluch Okay, thanks.
14:13 dluch #6, abneiman:  Did you have a chance to look into/plan a community crash course on ascii?
14:13 dluch (For folks who weren't there, this idea came up in the discussion at the (very brief) October DIG meeting.)
14:14 abneiman not beyond thinking about it, and getting some feedback to the effect of "Yes, great idea!" LOL
14:14 dluch :-)
14:14 jweston +1 still a great idea!
14:14 alynn26 I am thinking of doing my full asciidoc presentation at the Conference.
14:14 dluch Yep, still +1 to that!
14:14 abneiman but I do still think it would be valuable, and my November is shaping up to be way less wild than my October so it can stay on my plate
14:15 abneiman alynn26: that would be great!
14:15 alynn26 Not the Asciidoc in 5 minutes or less
14:15 dluch #action abneiman will look into/plan a community crash course on ascii
14:15 remingtron alynn26++
14:15 dluch alynn26: fantastic!
14:15 dluch alynn26++
14:15 dluch Any other old or ongoing business to discuss?
14:15 abneiman yeah, the "crash course" I was thinking about was mostly "asciidoc in 15 minutes or less" and I will definitely refer people to alynn26's upcoming presentation
14:16 dluch abneiman++
14:16 alynn26 abneiman: I can share my presentation with you, if you want
14:17 abneiman alynn26++ thanks! that would be great
14:17 dluch Okay, moving on..
14:17 dluch #topic New Business
14:17 Topic for #evergreen is now New Business (Meeting topic: 2019-11-07 - Documentation Interest Group Meeting)
14:18 dluch #info Switching to Antora
14:18 dluch bmagic and remingtron: take it away!
14:18 alynn26 I really like Antora
14:18 Bmagic :)
14:18 remingtron we hacked away at the hackaway
14:18 remingtron and Bmagic has a live demo to show you what we accomplished!
14:18 Bmagic #info branch is here: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=workin​g/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads​/collab/blake/LP1848524_antora_ize_docs
14:19 Bmagic #info the temporary site you can browse RIGHT NOW: http://antora.mobiusconsortium.org/prod/
14:19 Bmagic This is as far as we got
14:19 remingtron summary: I think we've answered all the hard questions, but there's plenty of cleanup to do
14:20 Bmagic The navigation needs to be fleshed out. I went ahead and made the theme "Evergreen-ized"
14:20 Bmagic I added links in the dropdown menus on the top right
14:20 remingtron Bmagic also got the search working, Bmagic++
14:20 Bmagic Right now, since the navigation isn't completed, some pages are only accessible through search
14:21 alynn26 bmagic++
14:21 sandbergja Bmagic++
14:21 sandbergja remingtron++
14:21 alynn26 Remingtron++
14:21 Bmagic aww shucks
14:21 Bmagic remingtron++
14:21 jweston bmagic++
14:21 jweston remingtron++
14:21 remingtron thanks everybody!
14:22 jihpringle bmagic++
14:22 jihpringle remingtron++
14:22 jeff is it expected that there is no search results page, just an autocomplete-style pop-up of matching titles?
14:22 Bmagic I got "hooked" on working on it and worked through the airport and in the car up to 2am
14:22 Bmagic jeff: yep, out of the box
14:22 abneiman I know this is a WIP but will the pages eventually be more "broken up" by lower-level section?
14:22 jeff Bmagic++
14:22 Bmagic info: using antora "lunr" https://github.com/Mogztter/antora-lunr
14:22 dluch bmagic++
14:22 dluch remingtron++
14:22 abneiman see http://antora.mobiusconsortium.org/prod/d​ocs/latest/admin/acquisitions_admin.html vs http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/reorg/3.2​/staff_client_admin/_acquisitions_admin​istration.html#_acquisitions_settings
14:23 alynn26 Can we share this with others to get additional opinions?
14:23 Bmagic I like to do that - compare two pages. Though it's not always apples to apples because our current production documents slice and dice stuff
14:23 alynn26 That page I think is missing the TOC
14:24 Bmagic alynn26: I think we need a more "permanent" server to stage this stuff - the new server perhaps?
14:24 remingtron yeah, once gmcharlt has the new docs server ready, we'll setup a more public demo of Antora
14:24 abneiman right - what I'm asking is that, in Antora, the Acq Admin is one big long page - there's value to some slicing and dicing via lower level section headings, and I want to know if that's in the plan
14:24 dluch abneiman: I think we'd be able to do that if we wanted to?  bmagic/remingtron?
14:25 dluch Or is it just all scrolling?
14:25 Bmagic we spoke briefly about that at the Hack-a-way - we thought the scrolling was better
14:25 remingtron we can break pages into smaller pages, but that would take some manual work, case by case
14:25 Bmagic for orgainization/search reasons too
14:26 jihpringle it's often helpful to be able to send links to specific section
14:26 abneiman ok. obviously I forgot that from hackaway :) I think in some cases, breaking up reallllly long pages (like Acq Admin) is more user friendly for several reasons
14:26 Bmagic yep, that page is seriously long
14:26 dluch I think we'd need some sort of menu, though, linking to sub-sections, otherwise it'll be a pain scrolling through
14:26 dluch Yes
14:26 remingtron jihpringle: Antora gives you a section link when you hover a section title
14:26 sandbergja One question: how close are we keeping to the original antora default UI?  Is there an easy way to bring in improvements made to the default UI into our customized UI?  I ask because there are a few accessibility issues with the original UI, and want to know if an upstream fix would eventually trickle down into the layout you made, Bmagic.
14:26 Bmagic The TOC at the top would help that page with a one-liner
14:27 abneiman right. and big +1 to jihpringle's comment about linking to a specific section - whether that's by anchor links or splitting pages, that's an important feature to preseve
14:27 remingtron yeah, that's one suggestion: add a Table of Contents to top of each page in Antora
14:27 jweston +1 to TOC
14:28 Bmagic yep, this line   ":toc:"  added to the top of each page will go a long way
14:28 dluch cool
14:28 abneiman +1 to TOC definitely
14:28 abneiman thanks remingtron++ Bmagic++
14:28 dluch #chair abneiman
14:28 pinesol Current chairs: abneiman dluch
14:28 dluch later, all!
14:28 remingtron sandbergja: good question. Bmagic, thoughts on how we'd handle UI upgrades?
14:28 Bmagic dluch++
14:28 jweston dluch++
14:28 jihpringle dluch++
14:28 abneiman dluch++
14:28 remingtron dluch++
14:29 Bmagic UI upgrades - git is our friend there
14:29 Bmagic right now, because we didn't want to "nest" a git repo within a git repo. We hvae the files simply "copied" into the Evergreen repo
14:30 Bmagic we could keep it outside of the Evergreen repo for ease of merging upstream
14:31 sandbergja Bmagic: keeping the layout in its own repo might be good!
14:32 Bmagic I think if we do that (correct me) we can have it "track" the github repo?
14:33 Bmagic You git experts in the room - there is a way to nest the repo within Evergreen, thereby avoiding adding another root repo? gmcharlt and I spoke briefly and he favored not doing that
14:34 Bmagic This project actually uses two upstream repos: https://github.com/Mogztter/antora-lunr and https://gitlab.com/antora/antora-ui-default
14:35 abneiman as noted gmcharlt is unavailable right now, but do one of our other core committers have thoughts about bmagic's proposal?
14:35 sandbergja I know you can set up git submodules -- https://git-scm.com/book/e​n/v2/Git-Tools-Submodules -- but I'd defer to others who have worked with those more
14:36 jeff I'm in agreement with gmcharlt about not adding a git submodule. It looks like based on the Antora docs the UI code is intended to be a distinct git repo.
14:36 Dyrcona Git submodules can be interesting.
14:36 Dyrcona Not necessarily in a good way.
14:36 Bmagic I nested the repos at first. And it caused gitolite to have a heart attack
14:36 csharp I think the objection was that submodules get really complicated really fast and git is already a hurdle for most
14:36 jeff (based on a quick skim of https://docs.antora.org/antora/2​.2/features/#interchangeable-ui just a few minutes ago)
14:36 Bmagic It was clear that we needed to introduce some code into the repo to make it play nice with the repo above it
14:36 jeff "Antora interfaces with a site UI that is stored and managed as a separate project."
14:37 sandbergja I think it's okay to have part of the build process be "run git clone [URL of ui repo]"
14:37 sandbergja as long as that build process is really well documented
14:37 csharp I think a separately cloned git repo with instructions for integration would be best (there were also concerns about licensing conflicts between antora [Mozilla Public License] and EG [GNU GPL v2])
14:38 jeff I believe that's what Antora expects to do by default -- there's no need to add on something special to make that happen.
14:38 Bmagic jeff: sandbergja: yep! - I think that's the way forward
14:38 csharp +1
14:38 Dyrcona Well, cmake is really good at managing dependencies like that without resorting to git submodules.
14:39 Bmagic and the lunr repo gets put into the ui repo.... it's like Inception
14:39 sandbergja I'm curious about how Windows users would contribute to antora-ized docs
14:39 Bmagic I wouldn't be surprised if the lunr repo get's wrapped into the default UI before too long anyway
14:39 * csharp plays the Inception soundtrack whenever Bmagic speaks
14:40 sandbergja Building antora seems like a lot to ask of casual documentation contributors to test their changes
14:40 Bmagic sandbergja: contribution hurdles remain the same
14:40 sandbergja (not that our current stack isn't also a lot to ask)
14:40 Bmagic I've been recommending folks use ascidocfx https://asciidocfx.com/
14:41 Bmagic 1. clone the Evergreen repo. 2. Open Asciidocfx. 3. Browse the file system to the document you want to edit. 4. Save the file
14:42 sandbergja On a related note: in my perfect world, when somebody throws a documentation pull request at the github repo, antora runs on their branch, and generates a preview view of what the documentation looks like with their changes
14:42 Bmagic If anything, the orgainization that Antora requires might make it *easier* to contribute
14:43 jeff setting up CI for docs would have benefits beyond just helping Windows users contribute
14:43 sandbergja Angular does that with docs pull requests, and I was really impressed: https://github.com/angular/angular​/pull/31630#issuecomment-512934983
14:43 jeff There are two options for local preview, as long as you can run antora on your Windows PC: static pages, or run the local server.
14:44 Dyrcona CI for docs would be a nice start in the general direction of CI.
14:45 abneiman Bmagic: remingtron: what do you see as next steps here?
14:45 abneiman and thank you Dyrcona++ csharp++ jeff++ sandbergja++ for committer perspective
14:47 Bmagic abneiman: I think we need the staging server. Keep hammering out the navigation. Edit all of the headings (with script). Add the TOC. Elicit feedback, Review, and finally publish
14:47 Bmagic Once it's in master, it will propigate down the version trees, and we get the full advantage of "version" of the docs (shown on the UI in the bottom left corner)
14:48 Bmagic Starting with 3.5 is a reasonable goal I would say
14:48 abneiman And DIG members present, are we +1 to moving forward here? (I don't think we really need a formal vote but I can call one if desired)
14:49 jweston +1 to moving forward
14:49 jihpringle +1 from me
14:49 stephengwills +1 Marchon
14:50 sandbergja +1 from me!
14:51 abneiman ok - hearing no objections to the general concept, let's toss some action items in
14:51 abneiman #action abneiman will prod gmcharlt about the test server
14:51 abneiman Bmagic and remingtron, are you working on the nav? are there others who want to help here?
14:52 Bmagic I believe there are 70+ links/lines needed
14:52 Bmagic we could divide and conquer. Anyone who wants to help... can!
14:53 sandbergja Bmagic: would they just need access to the working repo to be able to help with that task?
14:53 Bmagic make that 192 lines needed (roughly)
14:54 Bmagic sandbergja: that's correct - which I don't think there is an issue, it's out there ready for cloning/merging/patching/pushing
14:55 Bmagic 192 from `ll modules/*/pages/*|wc`
14:55 sandbergja Is now the right time to set up another git repo for the ui/layouts?
14:55 Bmagic yep, that'd be great
14:56 abneiman sandbergja: will you set that repo up?
14:56 sandbergja I can volunteer to work with gmcharlt and Dyrcona on that
14:56 abneiman heh
14:56 Bmagic probably just the one for the UI - not sure about lunr - we don't make changes to that (yet)
14:56 sandbergja that sounds good!
14:56 abneiman #action sandbergja gmcharlt and Dyrcona will work on setting up a git repo for ui (and maybe layouts)
14:57 abneiman #action bmagic, remingtron, and players to be named later will work on the nav, of which there are approx 192 lines needed
14:57 abneiman anything else for the near term? we're coming up on the hour
14:57 sandbergja Bmagic: will your demo version be up for a while -- so I can gather some feedback from my colleagues locally?
14:58 Bmagic yeah but not for long! It's not a machine that should be online
14:58 sandbergja okay!
14:58 Bmagic how's end of day today?
14:58 sandbergja Sure, I can gather some quick feedback by then
14:58 remingtron ...sorry I stepped away, but I'm back!
14:58 Bmagic remingtron: lol, I was wondering
14:59 abneiman ok - any additional business for DIG?
15:00 abneiman hearing none...
15:00 abneiman #endmeeting
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15:00 pinesol Meeting ended Thu Nov  7 15:00:14 2019 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
15:00 pinesol Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2019/evergreen.2019-11-07-14.00.html
15:00 pinesol Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2019/evergreen.2019-11-07-14.00.txt
15:00 pinesol Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2019/evergreen.2019-11-07-14.00.log.html
15:00 remingtron abneiman++
15:00 Bmagic abneiman++
15:00 jweston abneiman++
15:00 sandbergja abneiman++
15:00 sandbergja dluch++
15:00 jihpringle abneiman++
15:00 abneiman thanks Bmagic++ remingtron++ # to the future!
15:00 Bmagic and beyond!
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17:33 Dyrcona @later tell csharp: I dropped by to pick up a reason.
17:33 pinesol Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
17:33 * Dyrcona signs out and goes back to listening to Neil Young.
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17:45 csharp @later tell Dyrcona you'd probably like Echo in the Canyon, which is Jakob Dylan's (& friends') tribute to the Laurel Canyon influence on rock in the late 60s
17:45 pinesol csharp: The operation succeeded.
17:51 sandbergja remingtron: Bmagic: one thing that trips me up every time on the antora README is that it assumes that gulp is ready to go in the user's PATH
17:52 sandbergja (for me it's not, and Ubuntu helpfully recommends to me that I apt-get an outdated version of gulp that can't even handle antora)
17:52 sandbergja Any objection to me push a change to that README
17:52 sandbergja so that instead of just `gulp`, it's `node_modules/gulp/bin/gulp.js`?
17:53 sandbergja which'll be sure to be there because of the npm install step?
18:16 csharp https://docs.antora.org/antor​a-ui-default/set-up-project/ implies that gulp is available after npm install (just reading, not tried it ;-) )
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18:20 sandbergja csharp: I guess it's also possible that I've done something odd to my PATH on my laptop; I'll try it again in a fresh VM
18:22 csharp sandbergja++
18:34 sandbergja hmmm... still not working for me.  I'll throw some info into launchpad
18:59 jeff really really wish github issues import would support things like issue numbers.
19:00 jeff (and wasn't an unreleased api with docs updated in 2016)
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23:01 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-11-07T23:00:51,224589584-0500 -0>

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