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07:20 pinesol [evergreen|Dan Briem] LP#1778606 Web Client - Place Hold Requires Two Clicks on Submit - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=332588c>
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09:28 csharp phasefx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/985957
09:28 pinesol Launchpad bug 985957 in Evergreen "Prevent hold activation date being a date in the past" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Jason Etheridge (phasefx)
09:41 pinesol [evergreen|Suzanne Paterno] LP 985957 Prevent hold activation date being in the past - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5dadc54>
09:41 pinesol [evergreen|Dan Briem] LP#1777698 Duplicate barcode alert appearing on new barcodes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=43662fd>
09:41 csharp grabbing 1194
09:45 phasefx miker: I pulled up the 1777698 bug by accident and was mangling the fix commited status
09:50 miker phasefx: I've set it back to fix-committed ... is that what you meant?
09:51 phasefx miker++ yeah, meant i wasn't sure of the state, too braindead to parse your pushed to which branches statement
09:52 miker csharp: did you get a chance to test 1773191 further after fixing the comma typo? (also, I want to look a the sort change -- looking at the diff alone there's not enough context...)
09:53 miker phasefx: ah, gotcha. yeah, I'll add fix-committed to all
09:55 pinesol [evergreen|Michele Morgan] LP#1657171 - Normalize right and left single and double quotes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=41f088d>
09:55 pinesol [evergreen|Chris Sharp] LP#1657171 - Adding upgrade script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a3206c0>
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10:09 agoben We aren't running an in-room mic the whole time, but the stream for the HAW this morning is available at: https://zoom.us/j/405615768?pwd=​M25weGpHRk8xVlNWQ1Nlc2t3eldGQT09  password: evghaw
10:11 * jeff raises a mug of coffee from his desk
10:11 rhamby agoben++
10:12 rfrasur Yo Jeff!
10:12 Bmagic suup jeff!
10:12 csharp so y'all get to watch us mostly silently working
10:13 Bmagic It was a roaring room of activity before the cameras started rolling. Now: silence
10:15 Dyrcona :)
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10:19 Bmagic sandbergja: bug 1848524
10:19 pinesol Launchpad bug 1848524 in Evergreen "wishlist: Antora-ize docs " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848524
10:26 dbs Stompro: yeah I didn't think my old code would help you, but the long commit message provides the rationale for the search behaviour and establishes that that was the intended behaviour; so it no longer working == a regression
10:32 * jeff adds remote hack-a-way events to his calendar
10:36 phasefx re: antora versioning, I wonder if we can keep things tied with Evergreen branches, or if it's going need to be broken out into a separate repo
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10:53 jeff just to confirm, y'all are observing Daylight Saving Time at the moment, US/Eastern, four hours behind UTC, about 10:53 AM there?
10:53 agoben Yes, we are in Indiana
10:55 rfrasur Jeff, we observe it and then look away.
10:58 Dyrcona rfrasur++
10:58 Dyrcona Daylight saving time: Only the government would believe that you could  cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a  longer blanket.
11:00 jeff rhamby: sorry, I found your time zone reply slightly more confusing than the wikipedia article for "Time in Indiana", though it was significantly shorter.
11:01 rhamby jeff: EST in the US if that works for you :)
11:01 Dyrcona EDT, actually...
11:02 jeff "We are in Indianapolis so it is US EST or UTC-5 / UTC-4" read to me as three answers, two of which were the same, and wrong. :-)
11:02 jeff anyway, I attempted to clarify to the list after confirming here.
11:02 agoben Indy is on EDT right now
11:02 agoben Bill's going to talk in about 30 minutes
11:02 rfrasur I've lived in Indiana for "awhile."  I dunno anything about any of this.  We like to call it "Mitch Daniels Time"
11:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
11:03 Dyrcona Wake me up when it's "Miller Time."  ... On second thought, don't. :)
11:03 berick @quote random
11:03 pinesol berick: Quote #170: "<berick> IDL. it's what's for dinner" (added by bshum at 01:28 PM, July 21, 2017)
11:04 rhamby agoben: 26 minutes now, do we want a count down?
11:06 Dyrcona What's berick talking about? I need to know if it is worth installing zoom for.
11:06 agoben Angular 8
11:06 berick Dyrcona: mainly talking about scheduling and alerting everyone it's coming
11:07 berick as it will likely affect working branches
11:07 agoben rhamby: another reminder at 5 minutes out should be good
11:07 rhamby agoben: I was mostly joking but I'll send a 5 minute email out for those who are anxiously awaiting at their machines :)
11:12 agoben ++
11:13 * jeff grabs a chromebook to avoid further pondering the question of "has zoom learned enough from their last security incident?"
11:14 agoben The issue with Apple is supposed to be officially addressed.  Haven't heard of any more incidents since then.
11:20 Dyrcona Is the mic on there? I don't hear anything.
11:20 agoben It is not at the moment.  Will be up in a few
11:21 Dyrcona OK. That's what I suspected. Thought it's not showing a mic icon for the main show.
11:22 agoben Will do a quick sound check in a couple then.
11:22 agoben It's been a challenge this morning.
11:23 Stompro dbs, thanks, I'll create a bug.
11:26 rhamby 5 Minutes until berick's magnum opus on Angular 8 (disclaimer: he did not describe it as magnum nor an opus)
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11:27 Dyrcona That self-check at 1:00 pm, is that about the web self check, SIP3, or both?
11:28 csharp EG selfcheck is what we have in mind
11:29 Stompro We succesfully upgraded from 2.10.6 to 3.3.4 yesterday, so far nothing has exploded!
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11:30 jeff heh. SIP3.
11:31 Dyrcona Stupid proprietary software, as soon as audio started, zoom decided to switch to someone not talking and I can't get it to go back.
11:31 Dyrcona and, now it's working.
11:34 JBoyer Stompro++
11:35 Dyrcona backports--
11:36 jeffdavis Stompro: congrats! Have you moved to the web client then?
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11:37 Stompro No, we are going to do a phased switch over the next few weeks.
11:41 Stompro Our catalogers have to figure out keyboard navigation in the web client also, hopefully it exists and just isn't exposed, I don't see any underlined letters to give hints.
11:42 jeffdavis bug 1622358
11:42 pinesol Launchpad bug 1622358 in Evergreen "Keyboard shortcuts in the Web staff client not noted within menus" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1622358
11:43 gmcharlt berick: I ran past the details, unfortunately, but while playing around with the Angular 8 branch I ran across a situtation where upgrading npm resolved it
11:43 gmcharlt berick: what version of npm is your system running ATM?
11:45 jeffdavis Stompro: you may want to keep an eye on drone counts as you make the switch, I found we needed a lot more pcrud child processes when we moved to the web client (and more actor drones for 3.3). Postgres max connections may need increasing to accommodate pcrud increases.
11:45 jeffdavis I can't recall if that is discussed in the release notes.
11:45 berick gmcharlt: I bumped node/npm to current lts
11:46 berick 12.13.x
11:46 gmcharlt berick: sounds good
11:46 * berick is building a fresh branch
11:46 Stompro jeffdavis, I think I saw that being discussed here and made some adjustments to the actor drone settings.
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11:50 agoben The Evergreen Project Board meeting will start in about 15 minutes after 12pm EDT: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=governance:minutes:2019-10-21
11:50 agoben It will be a videoconference.  Links for participation are on the agenda.
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12:32 Stompro dbs, I filed bug 1849161 to address the regression in located URI scoping with pref lib settings.
12:32 pinesol Launchpad bug 1849161 in Evergreen "Regression - Preferred Lib search inclusion for Located URI results" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849161
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12:51 rhamby more acq data needed : https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1545185
12:51 pinesol Launchpad bug 1545185 in Evergreen "Concerto dataset's acq data should include more elements" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
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12:54 tlittle rhamby++
13:00 jeff Will the Zoom meeting for the 1 PM discussion be starting soon?
13:01 abneiman jeff: looks like it's coming up momentarily
13:01 jeff I may have had the wrong link. Got it now!
13:02 jeff Didn't realize that there was a new link per discussion. All set.
13:08 jeff questions mic is muffled and has a high buzz/hum.
13:08 jeff I think the link to the Self-Check document is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bk6jcT​Hn8yHY5UesNDiPLc3zVThO_I-k0FpoSI2iTmI/edit but I'm not certain on some of those letters. Also, once I got a working URL (from reading the shared screen), I don't have access to view.
13:09 jeff Ah. Just acknowledged on stream by csharp that the document is not shared yet.
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13:11 Dyrcona "Omnibus" always sounds ominous to me. :)
13:14 jeff link to Reports document appears to be https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DqA_f7​xSkL_kAO9xty33setvT0Gm75Y_3-_qxSJbq9Q/edit
13:17 jeff Polling the room again because it's been a while since I last got feedback: is there any community interest in something like JasperReports or public stats dashboards like we've been doing here?
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13:18 abneiman +1 to stats dashboards, definitely
13:18 abneiman I think that would be a popular feature
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13:19 jeff If not, we're happy to keep on doing what we're doing, but if there's interest elsewhere we'd likely put renewed effort into making things suitable for reuse.
13:27 jeff as a testament to how tricky the audio is, it took me far too long to recognize who was speaking just now.
13:32 sandbergja Acq dashboard is bug 1770289
13:32 pinesol Launchpad bug 1770289 in Evergreen "Wishlist: an acquisitions data dashboard" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1770289
13:34 jeff I'll have to review the current incarnation of quickreports to see if it would give us anything over what we're currently doing now with JasperReports.
13:34 jeff But at a glance, I don't see us going back to the Evergreen reporter, with or without quick reports on top.
13:35 jeff There are things that annoy me about JasperReports / JasperReports Server, but so far the benefits outweigh any cons for us.
13:36 jeff Though I continue to keep my eyes open for alternative reporting / "BI" frameworks, I'm not sure that inventing a new one always makes sense.
13:37 jeff And I'll admit that I may be biased because of how long we've been away from the Evergreen reporter and how used to and dependent upon JasperReports we've become.
13:38 jeff could anyone with better audio summarize what "adam's point" was that csharp just attempted to summarize? something about "doing it twice"?
13:39 tlittle One moment, I'm trying :)
13:40 jeff Thanks! tlittle++
13:42 pinesol [evergreen|Jeff Godin] LP#1749970 Fix paging of pending patrons - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8ab553c>
13:42 jeff I think abowling filled in the blanks. Had been just a few nouns and verbs missing earlier. :-)
13:42 Dyrcona :)
13:42 Dyrcona I've had whole sentences drop off.
13:46 Dyrcona The mic keeps going out right when someone says something interesting.
13:48 jeff *nod*
13:48 Bmagic lol
13:48 Dyrcona My take: Burn it down and start over. Don't do it twice.
13:48 jeff Just further justification to get the time and funds to attend in person. Can't quite fault those there from taking advantage of the whole point of being there in person. :-)
13:49 Dyrcona :)
13:50 jvwoolf csharp++
13:50 berick gmcharlt: fixed the nav bar overflow issue. what was the other display oddness (besides the calendar buttons) ?
13:50 jeff csharp: even with "all the mic business", greatly appreciate the effort to make some things remotely available!
13:50 eby you can be the boom mic operator jeff
13:50 berick eby++
13:50 gmcharlt berick: just the calendar button
13:50 jeff remote boom mic!
13:51 * jeff ducks
13:51 Dyrcona Well, I blame the Internet for the audio going out, not the mic so much.
13:51 berick gmcharlt: cool, thanks
13:51 jeff (and you will too!)
13:51 tlittle For those who had trouble hearing, I (attempted) to take notes at the bottom of the Reports Google Doc that was posted a bit ago
13:51 jeff tlittle++ thanks!
13:51 tlittle Apologies if I've summarized something incorrectly, for those who spoke :)
13:51 Dyrcona tlittle++
13:51 Bmagic yeah, streaming audio/video on this internet is shakey
13:52 csharp jeff: glad it was useful :-)
13:56 berick pullrequest posted to bug 1830973
13:56 pinesol Launchpad bug 1830973 in Evergreen "Update to Angular version 8" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1830973
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14:07 * gmcharlt claims 1195
14:14 pinesol [evergreen|Dan Wells] LP#1802952 Check bib visibility for located URI auto suggest - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5caccb6>
14:14 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1802952: stamp schema update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=608741a>
14:18 csharp miker: stuck - autogen + cache clear hasn't solved the problem for me :-(
14:19 miker csharp: did you happen to try it in an incognito window?
14:20 csharp I tried a new browser - will try incognito private next
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14:29 csharp abowling: https://www.linuxbabe.com/ub​untu/disable-ipv6-on-ubuntu
14:30 Bmagic sandbergja remingtron: https://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Eve​rgreen.git;a=blob;f=docs-antora/README.adoc;​h=e08dd49cb7e6add700917f4ca56ec2dcb310a992;h​b=da0aa13b42cf6a5e4d803de20cf955cad647b59c
14:33 sandbergja Bmagic++
14:33 sandbergja Can't wait to try it out!
14:41 Bmagic I figured that README was required to get started
14:47 gmcharlt csharp: user/gmcharlt/lp1830973_signoff
14:48 berick gmcharlt++
14:59 gmcharlt miker: https://angular-ui.github.io/bootstrap/#!#typeahead
15:00 Dyrcona @later tell jonadab One small patch and Evergreen installs on Devuan Ascii using Debian Stretch dependencies: https://pastebin.com/u/Dyrcona/1/NLbbYBGv . OpenSRF works as-is.
15:00 pinesol Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
15:01 gmcharlt jeffdavis++ # welcome to the commit bit
15:01 Dyrcona jeffdavis++
15:02 sandbergja jeffdavis++ # very well deserved
15:03 jihpringle jeffdavis++
15:04 jeffdavis Thanks!
15:05 dbs jeffdavis++
15:05 tlittle jeffdavis++
15:06 jeff jeffdavis++
15:11 pastebot "miker" at 168.25.130.30 pasted "ENTIRELY UNTESTED FUNTIME PATCH" (29 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10087
15:11 miker jeffdavis++
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15:32 pinesol [evergreen|Garry Collum] LP1821969 Patron Prefix and Suffix Display in Summary - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2837a72>
15:32 pinesol [evergreen|Michele Morgan] LP1821969 Additional fix to second_given_name - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=81300a2>
15:33 berick dbwells_: user/berick/lpxxx-items-out-sorting
15:40 pinesol Showing latest 5 of 6 commits to Evergreen...
15:40 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1830973 Node install v12.6.0 - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3429a24>
15:40 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1830973 Angular reversioning script - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=676d3af>
15:40 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1830973 Angular 8 updates - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=337891b>
15:40 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1830973 Angular8 lint repair - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6e85f06>
15:40 pinesol [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP1830973 Remove no longer needed navbar margin mods - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=3a24c34>
15:46 pinesol Showing latest 5 of 13 commits to Evergreen...
15:46 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1816475: Change calendar_today icon to event icon - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=d0c2bc3>
15:46 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1816475: Strip whitespace from patron barcodes - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=dc9e629>
15:46 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1816475: give booking pull list columns the correct datatype - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b060130>
15:46 pinesol [evergreen|Jane Sandberg] LP1816475: form validation prevents users from making reservations in the past - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=9b26fa9>
15:46 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1816475: offset the start time after end time alert - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=958a31f>
15:51 eady Dyrcona: Nice.  Thanks for the heads up on that.
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16:00 csharp @praise evergreen
16:00 * pinesol In days of old, it was prophesied that a hero would come and restore karmic balance to #evergreen. evergreen is that hero.
16:00 csharp @praise [band]
16:00 * pinesol the upgrade came off brilliantly, and it's all because of Wrong Bug
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16:01 Dyrcona @praise Devuan
16:01 * pinesol Devuan is kind and patient to newbies
16:01 Dyrcona @blame systemd
16:01 pinesol Dyrcona: systemd broke Evergreen.
16:02 berick @ana systemd broke Evergreen
16:02 pinesol berick: Keyed revenger mobsters
16:02 Dyrcona :)
16:02 csharp @band add [ana Keyed revenger mobsters]
16:02 pinesol csharp: Band 'Best-ever, merry dogs keen' added to list
16:03 berick very 60's
16:03 csharp yeah - Ken Kesey-esque
16:04 Dyrcona @ana Best-ever, merry dogs keen
16:04 pinesol Dyrcona: Keyed revenger mobsters
16:04 Dyrcona Is that how that works?
16:18 jeff @weather ktvc
16:18 pinesol jeff: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information.
16:18 jeff oh, right. broken.
16:18 jeff >To improve our services and enhance our relationship with our users, we will no longer provide free weather API keys as part of our program.
16:19 Dyrcona :)
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16:28 bshum bug 1849207 vs bug 1849208
16:28 pinesol Launchpad bug 1849208 in Evergreen "duplicate for #1849207 Allow Choosing PostgreSQL Version when Running Makefile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849208
16:28 pinesol Launchpad bug 1849208 in Evergreen "Allow Choosing PostgreSQL Version when Running Makefile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849208
16:28 bshum Aha, so that's the real bug!
16:28 bshum :D
16:34 pinesol [evergreen|Andrea Buntz Neiman] Docs: added Request Items section to Items Status doc - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=fdd9105>
16:34 pinesol [evergreen|Andrea Buntz Neiman] Merge branch 'master' of git.evergreen-ils.org:Evergreen - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=4cf0108>
16:38 miker JBoyer: this is as close as I can get: Error: [$parse:syntax] Syntax Error: Token ':' not a primary expression at column 1 of the expression [::match.id] starting at [::match.id].
16:49 * jeff idly wonders if the Indiana Office of Technology (IOT) has an IoT initiative
16:50 jeff (or if they're grumpy about the collision)
16:52 miker JBoyer: "state.value as state.display for state in states"
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23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Installing Angular web client <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.29.html#2019-10-21T23:00:55,792076215-0400 -0>
23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Failed Log Output: osrfsys.log <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~li​ve/test.76.html#2019-10-21T23:00:55,833855268-0400 -2>
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