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10:11 csharp could someone provide me a pointer to the installed location of the eg2 files?  I'm looking to implement an update procedure similar to what berick and jeff were discussing at the conference
10:12 csharp (build npm/ng stuff, rsync hashed files, cp over index)
10:14 csharp and, like a flash of lightning, /openils/var/web/eg2/en-US drifted into view :-)
10:14 csharp thanks rubber dux!
10:16 mmorgan rubberduck++
10:19 pinesol [evergreen|Terran McCanna] LP#1803790 Re-alphabetize Local & Server Administration Links - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=b9bb3af>
10:19 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1803790: apply alphabetization fix to Angular admin splash pages - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=5625c22>
10:21 csharp however, I'm now unable to find where the files generated by ng build end up within the source tree
10:21 csharp can anyone help?
10:23 Dyrcona :)
10:23 csharp looking under Open-ILS/src/eg2 and there are none of the files that ng build appears to be generating
10:23 csharp oh... I see it now
10:24 csharp the generated files end up in Open-ILS/web/eg2/en-US
10:24 csharp ok, that's all I need then
10:24 * mmorgan quacks
10:25 csharp hopefully the log will help others find that later :-)
10:25 mmorgan csharp++
10:28 Dyrcona :)
10:29 Dyrcona csharp: I have more information on ldirectord, and I suspsect that yours may be crashing, too, but you don't notice.  If you have time and feel like looking into some more, let me know.
10:29 * csharp confirms that "rsync -auv --exclude=index.html Open-ILS/web/eg2/en-US/ /openils/var/web/eg2/en-US/ && cp Open-ILS/web/eg2/en-US/index.html /openils/var/web/eg2/en-US/index.html" does what he was trying to do
10:30 csharp Dyrcona: hmmm - interesting - maybe next week?  I'm snowed under through the end of next week then things start to ease up for me a bit :-)
10:31 Dyrcona OK. No problem. I find that 1 ldirectord process now crashes, but no one notices unless they know what to look for.
10:32 * gmcharlt claims 1193
10:41 jeff oh fun. barcode scans as '    D9999999' actual item barcode in state system is 'D9999999'
10:41 pinesol [evergreen|Remington Steed] LP#1729435: Allow saving Bill Full Details grids - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=05f101e>
10:41 pinesol [evergreen|Michele Morgan] LP#1729435: Add Seed Data for WS type for Bill Full Details grids - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=aac3577>
10:41 pinesol [evergreen|Galen Charlton] LP#1729435: stamp DB update - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=8fe4cdf>
10:41 jeff (different from those that scan as 'T 999999' and are in the system as the same value, 'T 999999')
10:46 * mmorgan doesn't understand the utility of barcodes containing spaces, barcodes with leading spaces, even less so.
10:47 mmorgan Do the spaces have some sort of significance?
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11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
11:03 pinesol [evergreen|Dan Briem] LP#1841089 Apply button in Patron Bill History screen is in confusing location - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=313c923>
11:03 jeff mmorgan: it's a mystery!
11:04 jeff mmorgan: in some cases of weird barcodes, i think they're mistakes that went undetected by the owning library due to some quirk of their software or equipment, etc.
11:07 * mmorgan grumbles
11:07 mmorgan just seems like it compromises the utility of all barcodes if we have to support spaces, unnecessarily, if there's no good reason to do so.
11:14 jeff meanwhile i think the way we'll end up handling many of these is to have a confirmation/disambiguation prompt either when an exact match isn't found (but a close one is), or when an exact match was found but there are also other matches after some space/case normalization
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11:36 mmorgan Notification of a close match could be helpful in general if a misscan cuts off characters at the beginning. Something that happens not infrequently.
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11:43 jeff i really wonder about these:
11:43 jeff 3FRGD00029048B
11:43 jeff GHSD0009725
11:43 jeff oh, that last one is likely the org name prefixed.
11:54 Dyrcona oils_ctl.sh could stand some attention, such as making SIP_DIR and similar variables inheritable from the environment and/or even supplied as arguments. Just sayin' 'cause I'm messing with SIP today.
11:54 * Dyrcona might make a LP bug,
11:57 Dyrcona Oh, yuck. That branch made it in..... Oh well.
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12:50 jeff also fun, leading zeros vs not leading zeros.
12:55 mmorgan :-(
12:56 jeff barcode in state system as 00123456 actual barcode scans as... oh, nope. that's me scanning into a spreadsheet like a dummy.
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13:38 gmcharlt I'm quite found of the book whose barcode is 3.1234E+13
13:38 gmcharlt *fond
13:39 rhamby I'd still be impressed if you found it
13:39 rhamby :)
13:41 rjackson_isl That's where Excel converting the column to numeric with 0 decimal places comes in handy ;)
13:43 Dyrcona Small matter of formatting.... ;)
13:44 jeff these "T 12345" barcodes are... something else.
13:47 jeff barcode label says T 123456. Paging slip says T 123456. state system messages say T 123456.
13:47 jeff barcode scans as 0123456012
13:50 jeff another item from a different library, barcode label says T 120399, scans as T 120399, paging slip and state system messages say 00120399
14:22 csharp scanner settings problem?
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14:39 * mmorgan wonders where jeff's libraries are getting their barcodes from.
14:42 jonadab Ugh.  I thought the barcodes that will only scan with the higher-quality scanners (notably, don't work about nine out of ten times with one of the old wand scanners) were bad.
14:42 jonadab But you guys have it worse.
14:42 jeff mmorgan: thankfully not our libraries, just libraries in the state that we get to deal with when doing resource sharing.
14:43 jonadab Well, some of the libraries in our consortium have barcodes that fail the standard codabar check-digit scheme.
14:44 jonadab Still not as bad as the barcode not matching the number printed under it.  Eep.
14:44 jeff we have lots of seven digit barcodes that have no checkdigit.
14:44 mmorgan Seems like a very loose interpretation of the concept of 'barcode'
14:44 jonadab Yeah.
14:47 Dyrcona It's a bar that codes some value... Sounds 'bout right to me.
14:48 rjackson_isl rjackson_isl always puts the lid back on the can when he starts reviewing non-standard barcodes in the consortium db :(
14:48 * miker hands pen scanners to everyone, "have fun with THOSE!"
14:48 phasefx quecats :D
14:48 mmorgan 'Lightpen' always sounded so cool.
14:49 jeff OCR-A wand scanners. Eliminate all possibility of conflicting label + encoded data. The label IS the encoded data!
14:49 mmorgan phasefx: We have a cuecat in a display cabinet in our office :)
14:50 Dyrcona Well, I'm having fun with vrrp and keepalived on VMs that have two interfaces: one default NAT, and one bridged to the host.  I think the bridged networking is not working quite right, or rather, the bridged interface needs to be more configured before keepalived takes over....
14:50 mmorgan along with a wooden fine calculator.
14:51 phasefx mmorgan: :D  I have one somewhere; thought I would use to catalog my home library (that never happens anytime I think about it)
14:52 jeff we used to have something like this, but they were keyboard wedge devices, no need for software that I'm aware of: https://youtu.be/XryEJocxnD8?t=16
15:00 miker jeff: it fits comfortably in the hand for hours of operation!
15:02 phasefx compatible with windows 98se
15:05 mmorgan What, no Windows for Workgroups?
15:08 jonadab Didn't cuecat include software for MacOS classic?
15:08 phasefx that was the best one, right?
15:09 phasefx incidentally, without software, it throws a few bytes in front of the barcode.  Back in the XUL days, I was tempted to write a parser for it
15:41 Dyrcona Well, I can ssh to the external IP, but I time out trying to connect with a browse, so vrrp is basically working.
15:44 * dbs added a couple of SQL reports (for listing which staff have permissions, and which permissions, at one or more libraries) to https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=evergreen-reports:sql:staff
15:44 dbs Could have done it in the reporter but hey...
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23:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>

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