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10:06 Bmagic can anyone think back to the xul days and remember an error when loading the grid "TypeError row.my.au is null" ? Autogen?
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10:23 Bmagic yep, I think it's autogen
10:32 dbwells csharp: JBoyer: small change pushed to 1796945
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11:01 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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11:16 JBoyer dbwells++
11:16 JBoyer I didn't realize that's how it worked. Will load very soon for some testing today,
11:17 JBoyer (didn't realize -> the two-step thing)
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11:26 csharp dbwells++ # will also test as soon as I get a chance
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12:06 Bmagic rhamby: is there a sign-up sheet somewhere for 2019 hack-a-way ?
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12:45 agoben Bmagic: I don't think it's live yet
12:45 Bmagic right on
12:46 rhamby Bmagic: Agilent: I usually put one up about two months out so it's a bit early but not much, I can throw one up today
12:47 Bmagic sounds good but don't throw up if you can help it
12:47 Bmagic :)
12:48 rhamby tis not a big deal
12:48 agoben I've got it started
12:48 rhamby agoben++ you are a lady and a scholar
12:49 Bmagic agoben++
12:51 agoben It's terribly empty, but it's there and the link is up on the Hack-A-Way 2019 page: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku​.php?id=hack-a-way:hack-a-way-2019
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13:21 jeff There isn't a UI-exposed way of populating a bucket based on a list of record IDs, is there?
13:23 JBoyer jeff, I don't think so.
13:23 jihpringle jeff: not currently
13:23 jihpringle https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1784412
13:23 pinesol Launchpad bug 1784412 in Evergreen "Wishlist: Batchloading record buckets by bib ID" [Wishlist,New]
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13:39 jeff JBoyer++ jihpringle++
13:39 jeff thanks for the confirmation
13:41 jeff Anyone have a workflow that they love for batch loading electronic resource bibs (from any vendor), either documented or that they care to describe? I'm re-vamping / re-evaluating our methods.
13:43 nfBurton bmagic has one for cloudLibrary that I use
13:43 Bmagic I've recently sweetend that script up
13:44 Bmagic a one-stop script for importing and syncing bib records from vendors that expose the marc to us via these supported methods: FTP/Cloudlibrary API/Folder
13:45 Bmagic jeff: https://github.com/mcoia/mobius_evergreen/blo​b/master/overdrive/electronic_marc_import.pl
13:46 Bmagic documented (sort of) in the config example file https://github.com/mcoia/mobius_evergreen/blob/mas​ter/overdrive/electronic_marc_import_example.conf
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13:51 jeff nfBurton++ Bmagic++ thanks!
13:51 agoben The EOB/Evergreen Project Board meeting will be beginning in just under 10 minutes
13:52 Bmagic jeff: I'm happy with the latest "one script to rule them all" linked above. Been running in production now for a month and I'm liking the better tracking and emailed alerts
14:00 agoben Alright, it's that time!
14:00 agoben #startmeeting EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.​php?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15
14:00 pinesol Meeting started Thu Aug 15 14:00:38 2019 US/Eastern.  The chair is agoben. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:00 pinesol Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:00 Topic for #evergreen is now  (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:00 pinesol The meeting name has been set to 'eob_meeting_for_2019_08_15__agenda_h​ttps___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_ph​p_id_governance_minutes_2019_08_15'
14:00 agoben #topic Roll Call
14:00 agoben Use the #info command to provide name and affiliation
14:00 Topic for #evergreen is now Roll Call (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:00 agoben #info agoben = Anna Goben, Evergreen Indiana
14:00 tlittle #info tlittle = Tiffany Little, PINES
14:01 rhamby #info rhamby = Rogan Hamby, Equinox
14:01 jvwoolf #info jvwoolf is Jessica Woolford, Bibliomation
14:02 agoben I know Chris O will not be able to attend today.  Anyone else heard of someone unavailable?
14:03 nfBurton #info cburton = Chris Burton, NFPL
14:03 csharp #info csharp = Chris Sharp, GPLS
14:03 JBoyer #info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, IN State Lib, Evergreen Indiana
14:03 csharp (sorry - head was down on other stuff)
14:03 JBoyer (same...)
14:03 agoben Anyone know if gmcharlt will be here?
14:03 JBoyer I believe he's still in Ireland.
14:04 agoben Oh, right.
14:04 agoben And I haven't heard from hbrennan, but assume she's not available.
14:04 agoben So, let's get to it:
14:05 agoben (since we do have a quorum)
14:05 agoben #topic Approval of Minutes
14:05 agoben #info Minutes from 2019-07-18 meeting: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2019/evergreen.2019-07-18-14.00.html
14:05 agoben Corrections, updates, suggestions?
14:05 Topic for #evergreen is now Approval of Minutes (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:05 rhamby Jboyer: in the green country the galen is
14:06 agoben Hearing none:
14:06 agoben #startvote Accept minutes from 2019-07-18? yes, no
14:06 pinesol Begin voting on: Accept minutes from 2019-07-18? Valid vote options are yes, no.
14:06 pinesol Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
14:06 agoben #vote yes
14:06 nfBurton #vote yes
14:06 csharp #vote yes
14:06 tlittle #vote yes
14:06 JBoyer #vote yes
14:06 jvwoolf #vote yes
14:06 agoben #endvote
14:06 pinesol Voted on "Accept minutes from 2019-07-18?" Results are
14:06 pinesol yes (6): nfBurton, JBoyer, jvwoolf, tlittle, csharp, agoben
14:06 agoben #topic Chair Report
14:06 Topic for #evergreen is now Chair Report (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:06 agoben Have pushed the organizational work to the New Business section.  Nothing further to report here.
14:06 agoben #topic Treasurer's Financial Report
14:06 Topic for #evergreen is now Treasurer's Financial Report (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:07 agoben Since Galen isn't here, we'll hold off and check in on the MOBIUS and legal invoices when he returns.
14:07 agoben Any other thoughts, concerns or comments on that front?
14:08 JBoyer none here.
14:08 agoben Ok, moving on
14:08 agoben #topic SFC Updates
14:08 Topic for #evergreen is now SFC Updates (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:08 agoben No updates aside from the one failed reimbursement that came to the SFC list.
14:09 agoben On to releases:
14:09 agoben #topic Release Manager (3.3)
14:09 Topic for #evergreen is now Release Manager (3.3) (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:09 agoben dbwells: any comments?
14:10 dbwells Nothing to report, other than point releases set for next Wednesday.
14:10 agoben Thanks!
14:10 agoben #topic Release Manager (3.4)
14:10 Topic for #evergreen is now Release Manager (3.4) (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:10 agoben I know gmcharlt is out, does someone else want to review the fest since our last meeting?
14:11 agoben Did it go well?
14:11 csharp it was successful and productive
14:11 tlittle Here's the page that includes some stuff worked on/committed: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=dev:3.4:feedback_fest_2
14:11 JBoyer gmcharlt did put together a report here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=dev:3.4:feedback_fest_2
14:12 tlittle Jinx!
14:12 JBoyer Oops, too slow. :D
14:12 agoben #info gmcharlt put together a report here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=dev:3.4:feedback_fest_2
14:12 agoben Thanks!
14:12 * csharp was looking for that too
14:12 JBoyer In short though, 55 bugs saw feedback, 25 had patches merged and 14 people participated.
14:12 rhamby agreed, that it was successful, we also had a couple of first time folks with code committed which is nice
14:12 agoben Excellent!
14:12 agoben #topic 2019 Conference Committee
14:12 Topic for #evergreen is now 2019 Conference Committee (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:13 agoben I think this is pretty much wrapped, but any last minute stuff on anyone's radar?
14:13 agoben Ok, hearing none
14:13 agoben #topic 2020 Conference Committee
14:13 Topic for #evergreen is now 2020 Conference Committee (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:14 agoben tlittle, any news?
14:14 tlittle We have a meeting scheduled for next Tuesday to get back into the swing of organizing
14:14 tlittle But other than that, nothing just yet really
14:14 agoben Thank you!
14:14 agoben #topic Outreach Committee
14:14 Topic for #evergreen is now Outreach Committee (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:14 agoben rhamby
14:14 agoben ?
14:15 rhamby nothing to add beyond what was in my email
14:15 agoben #info The full report is available here: http://list.evergreen-ils.org/piper​mail/board/2019-August/000010.html
14:15 rhamby I'm glad to take questions though.
14:15 rhamby And volunteers for social media.  :)
14:15 agoben :)  Thanks!
14:16 agoben I have these out of order in my notes again, so my apologies!
14:16 agoben #topic Site Selection Committee
14:16 Topic for #evergreen is now Site Selection Committee (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:16 agoben csharp?
14:16 csharp #info The 2021 Site Committee has added a member, Scott Thomas, from the Scranton, PA Public Library
14:16 csharp #info the committee will be putting out a call for proposals before the end of the month
14:16 csharp sorry for not getting on it sooner, but we're soon to be underway!
14:17 agoben Sounds good!  Thanks for getting it started!
14:17 agoben #topic Unfinished Business
14:17 Topic for #evergreen is now Unfinished Business (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:17 agoben I don't have any on record.  Anyone else?
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14:18 agoben #topic New Business: Evergreen Project mission statement/amendment of incorporation articles
14:18 Topic for #evergreen is now New Business: Evergreen Project mission statement/amendment of incorporation articles (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:18 tlittle Don't think so. I posted the accessibility stuff
14:18 agoben Alright, so on to new business.
14:18 agoben We have a few more steps before we can file the 1023.  First up is addressing the articles of incorporation.
14:18 agoben We're short on boilerplate and missing a definitive mission statement.
14:19 agoben Dilly provided the following suggestion for the mission statement:
14:19 agoben The Evergreen Project was established to promote education by providing free open source software for libraries that helps library patrons find library materials, and helps libraries manage, catalog, and circulate those materials.
14:19 agoben I'd like to draft the amendment for a vote next week if enough of you are available.
14:20 tlittle Sure
14:20 JBoyer +1
14:20 nfBurton sure thing
14:20 csharp I'm short of time next week, but could probably find time for a vote, especially if over email
14:20 agoben I will get it all filled in if you are ok with that language.  It must be voted on before submission.  Do you want to do that via videoconference (must have a quorum to attend) or consent approval signatures (takes longer, but not all at the same time)?
14:21 tlittle Maybe signatures would be better, to account for scheduling differences?
14:21 csharp Friday is my only open day next week if we're doing something interactive
14:21 agoben We can also adjust the mission statement; that was just the recommended language based on Dilly's understanding of our mission.
14:21 tlittle I'm fairly open next week so either is fine with me, btw
14:22 csharp I would only change "free open source" to "free and open source" - otherwise the statement works for me
14:22 tlittle "Promote education" isn't my favorite wording, but I guess it's kind of accurate?
14:22 agoben If we want to wrangle the language more, perhaps the vote should go to the next week.  That better for schedules?
14:23 agoben The full boilerplate that it's based off of is:
14:23 agoben Said corporation is organized exclusively for charitable, religious, educational, and scientific purposes, including, for such purposes, the making of distributions to organizations that qualify as exempt organizations under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, or the corresponding section of any future federal tax code.
14:23 csharp in that case, "promote education" sounds appropriate
14:24 tlittle Yeah, seeing that, I suppose that's true
14:25 agoben Ok, well, I'll get the form started and out for review next week.  Final preference on emeeting vs signatures?
14:25 jvwoolf Either is fine with me.
14:25 nfBurton same
14:26 agoben I can doodle it out when I send the draft.  If no time works, we have a solution in hand!
14:26 tlittle Yep, me too
14:26 csharp given my limited time, if the meeting can't be Friday, signatures - otherwise, no preference
14:26 JBoyer Signatures gives us the most flexibility, provided it doesn't drag on too long.
14:26 agoben #action agoben will compile the draft amendment for a discussion/vote next week or two.
14:26 agoben Signatures have been taking months, which is my hesitation.
14:26 agoben We don't have that much time left
14:26 csharp signatures means that we would each need to sign and scan and email back?
14:27 agoben Yup
14:27 tlittle Oh goodness. Then I'd prefer a videoconf and get it over with
14:27 tlittle How many of us makes a quorum? If one or two are missing, would we still have enough folks?
14:27 csharp as one of the guilty parties for delaying that before, I promise to not be the hold-up if we go that direction
14:27 agoben I think it should be just a couple of minutes.  We need 5 for a quorum.
14:27 agoben If we go with signatures, I think we have to have everyone
14:27 jvwoolf I'm in the office now, so I won't be a hold-up either!
14:28 tlittle Then I'd lean toward just doing the videoconf unless we just really can't get enough of us together
14:28 csharp then do the e-meeting if you just need a quorum
14:28 csharp I'll work around it
14:28 csharp the only day I just can't do anything is next Thursday
14:29 agoben kk, will be in touch for that meeting.
14:29 csharp but do the doodle and we'll see :-)
14:29 agoben ++
14:29 agoben Up next
14:29 agoben #topic New Business: Dilly's POA
14:29 Topic for #evergreen is now New Business: Dilly's POA (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:29 agoben Does anyone have this already? I can't find the 2848 in the docs.
14:29 agoben I can get it requested if not
14:29 tlittle Newbie question: what is this?
14:29 agoben Power of Attorney
14:29 csharp uh.. yeah - tlittle needs to know that
14:29 csharp oh
14:29 jvwoolf agoben: I will search my inbox
14:30 agoben jwoolf++
14:30 agoben Thanks!
14:30 tlittle Ah that makes sense. Thanks!
14:30 csharp I have not seen that at all
14:30 jvwoolf agoben: Found it. Just sent it to you.
14:30 agoben Excellent!  One more thing on the list!
14:30 JBoyer jvwoolf++
14:31 tlittle jvwoolf++
14:31 csharp jvwoolf: and welcome back!
14:31 agoben By my reckoning then, as soon as the MO AG approves our article amendments, we'll be ready to refinalize the paperwork and ship the 1023!
14:31 jvwoolf csharp: Thanks :)
14:31 tlittle Huzzah!
14:31 csharp nice
14:31 jvwoolf Woohoo!
14:31 JBoyer Whee
14:32 agoben Would be ideal if we can manage it by the September meeting, but I would ask that if you are coming to the hack-a-way we consider the possibility of an in-person meeting there to wrap up any final details.
14:32 agoben Just in case
14:32 * csharp will be there
14:32 tlittle Me too
14:33 agoben I know not everyone will be in attendance, but I think a quorum may be and we can vidcon in anyone who can't make it.
14:33 csharp yeah - there will probably be quorum
14:33 jvwoolf I may not be able to go, but should be able to call in
14:34 agoben jvwoolf : quick follow up on the 2848.  Do you know if Mike ever filed it?
14:35 jvwoolf I'm not sure
14:35 agoben kk, I'll follow up with him
14:35 agoben And if not, I'll get it filed ASAP.
14:36 agoben #action agoben will follow-up on finalizing the Power of Attorney for J. Dilly with the IRS
14:36 agoben Alright, that's all I had for the agenda.  Anyone else have anything?
14:36 tlittle Did we talk about the financial policy subcommittee? Did I miss that?
14:37 tlittle Is there anything to talk about since Galen is away? I've just been waiting for the call to arms, as it were
14:37 agoben No, I spaced it since gmcharlt isn't here.  Did someone else on that subcommittee want to report?
14:37 agoben Sounds like it's in a holding pattern while he's away.
14:38 tlittle I've got nothing, just making sure I didn't miss info on something I was supposed to be doing :)
14:38 agoben ++
14:38 agoben #topic Next meeting
14:38 Topic for #evergreen is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: EOB meeting for 2019-08-15, agenda:https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.p​hp?id=governance:minutes:2019-08-15)
14:39 agoben #info Our next formal meeting will be on September 19, 2019, with a tentative brief session in the next couple of weeks to deal with the Article amendments.
14:39 agoben #endmeeting
14:39 Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org | Can't speak? Make sure your nickname is registered and that you are identified to freenode services: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
14:39 pinesol Meeting ended Thu Aug 15 14:39:36 2019 US/Eastern.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:39 pinesol Minutes:        http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2019/evergreen.2019-08-15-14.00.html
14:39 pinesol Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergr​een/2019/evergreen.2019-08-15-14.00.txt
14:39 pinesol Log:            http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergree​n/2019/evergreen.2019-08-15-14.00.log.html
14:39 agoben Thanks all so much!
14:39 csharp agoben++
14:39 JBoyer agoben++
14:39 nfBurton agoben++
14:39 tlittle agoben++
14:39 jvwoolf agoben++
14:39 agoben csharp++
14:39 agoben rhamby++
14:40 agoben tlittle++
14:40 agoben jvwoolf++
14:40 rhamby agoben++
14:40 rhamby everyone++
14:40 agoben nfBurton++
14:40 JBoyer @oprah plusplus
14:40 agoben JBoyer++
14:40 pinesol JBoyer: Go away, or I'll replace you with a very small shell script!
14:40 JBoyer Hmm, joy denied.
14:40 agoben Now back to the regularly scheduled chat...
14:41 csharp @praise agoben
14:41 * pinesol the upgrade came off brilliantly, and it's all because of agoben
14:41 agoben I wish *eyeroll*
14:41 csharp @blame csharp for holding up the signatures
14:41 pinesol csharp: Your failure is now complete, csharp. for holding up the signatures
14:41 jvwoolf P.S. If anybody knows fun things to do in/around Indy, I'm trying to convince my husband to come to the Hack-a-Way with the baby XD
14:42 agoben Send over some interests and I'll see if I can come up with a list!
14:42 jvwoolf agoben++
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23:02 pinesol News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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